No they don't, it ends with Crucible with Luke, Leia, and Han pseudo retiring, and the next series (that was cancelled), was supposed to have the endings of the Ben/Vestara story arc, and the Gev story arc.

I choose to believe the EU ended with Face Loran assuming control of GAI, the Wraiths bringing justice to the galaxy, and Wedge in happy retirement with his family.

Well that's the end of the X-wing story arc , but that's still a full year before Crucible

No they don't, it ends with Crucible with Luke, Leia, and Han pseudo retiring, and the next series (that was cancelled), was supposed to have the endings of the Ben/Vestara story arc, and the Gev story arc.

The furthest forward EU story is Legacy, which is set up in the last few book series (particularly the abomination (or so I'm told) that was Fate of the Jedi) and occurs in 137 ABY. That ends with the Galactic Federation Triumvirate and the happily ever after ending.

Fate Of The Jedi IMO wasn't as bad as Legacy Of The Force. Ironically Legacy of the Force started with a potentially good concept but managed to completely screw it up while Fate of the Jedi started with a horrible concept but managed to make something decent out of it. And even some of Fate's problems were because it was set after Legacy of the Force and LOTF had the stupidest ending to a Star Wars story I have ever seen. Though Fate also had issues because the writers seemed to like putting stumbling blocks on what should have been a pretty easy path from the end of Legacy of the Force to the beginning of the Legacy Comic series.

We knew basically 4 events that occurred between the end of Legacy of the Force and the Legacy comic era

1: The main cast of the OT other then the droids died.

2: Luke had at least one grandchild

3: The Empire launched its own counterpart to the Jedi

4: A Fel claimed the title of Emperor and established an Imperial dynasty

5: The Fel Imperial line became Force Sensitive.

When Legacy of the Force ends Jagged Fel is Imperial Head of State, and romantically involved with Jaina Solo. When Fate of the Jedi begins he asks her to marry him, she accepts, and he is planning to establish the Imperial Knight program. But then she breaks up with him because he isn't willing to risk a major diplomatic incident, which could easily lead to a full scale war, to do something she could easily do on her own (

) Then they get back together but Jagged steps down as leader of the Empire. Seriously couldn't they have just skipped all the twists and turns and kept things simple?

Wait, so Soontir Fel's descendants become the leaders of the Empire?

Awesome.

Legacy does go wildly off the rails. It completely sidelines its main conflict, then turns into a pet character fest, then it kinda gets its feet back and makes the best of the mess it tied itself into.

Wait, so Soontir Fel's descendants become the leaders of the Empire?

Awesome.

In the Legacy comics, the Empire is ruled by a line of force sensitive Fels, first Roan Fel than his daughter, then Marisiah Fel. Who at least hints at a familial connection to Ania Solo.

No they don't, it ends with Crucible with Luke, Leia, and Han pseudo retiring, and the next series (that was cancelled), was supposed to have the endings of the Ben/Vestara story arc, and the Gev story arc.

The furthest forward EU story is Legacy, which is set up in the last few book series (particularly the abomination (or so I'm told) that was Fate of the Jedi) and occurs in 137 ABY. That ends with the Galactic Federation Triumvirate and the happily ever after ending.

Yes but I said I wasn't talking about the comics, I was talking about the books

Fate Of The Jedi IMO wasn't as bad as Legacy Of The Force.

I have no idea what you're talking about, I loved LotF.

It started strong but started going downhill fast. The second book sucked and also showed that the author knew nothing about military procedure, Tempest and Exile were much better other then at least one big case of a character acting out of character. Sacrafice things started going straight downhill and never really completely pulled out of the dive. Revelation was a disaster of epic proportions, and while I think Denning made a valiant effort there was just no way for one book to pull the series out of the depths Revelation left it in especially not with the awful surprise twist at the end. I will say one thing the twist was definitely a surprise. Unfortunately the reason it was such a surprise is that no one would have considered it a remotely reasonable possibility.

Fate Of The Jedi IMO wasn't as bad as Legacy Of The Force.

I have no idea what you're talking about, I loved LotF.

You mean the series that quite obviously had 2 of the 3 authers pretty much hating what the other wrote for the series. How the tone and story veered widely from book to book? And while the use of Fett was okay in the second book, book 5 and 8 went into Boba fanboy territory.

Yeah I didn't mind Fett in the second book either. It was the whole major character resigning from the military after being grounded and facing charges fom another character who A; Didn't outrank them, and B: had absolutely no authority to issue the orders that were refused.

Fate Of The Jedi IMO wasn't as bad as Legacy Of The Force.

I have no idea what you're talking about, I loved LotF.

You mean the series that quite obviously had 2 of the 3 authers pretty much hating what the other wrote for the series. How the tone and story veered widely from book to book? And while the use of Fett was okay in the second book, book 5 and 8 went into Boba fanboy territory.

Can you elaborate on this one?

No they don't, it ends with Crucible with Luke, Leia, and Han pseudo retiring, and the next series (that was cancelled), was supposed to have the endings of the Ben/Vestara story arc, and the Gev story arc.

The furthest forward EU story is Legacy, which is set up in the last few book series (particularly the abomination (or so I'm told) that was Fate of the Jedi) and occurs in 137 ABY. That ends with the Galactic Federation Triumvirate and the happily ever after ending.

Yes but I said I wasn't talking about the comics, I was talking about the books

Star Wars canon is multimedia, not a book series. If you eliminate everything that's not a film or book then you'll get holes even if they were still developing the Legends universe.

No they don't, it ends with Crucible with Luke, Leia, and Han pseudo retiring, and the next series (that was cancelled), was supposed to have the endings of the Ben/Vestara story arc, and the Gev story arc.

The furthest forward EU story is Legacy, which is set up in the last few book series (particularly the abomination (or so I'm told) that was Fate of the Jedi) and occurs in 137 ABY. That ends with the Galactic Federation Triumvirate and the happily ever after ending.

Yes but I said I wasn't talking about the comics, I was talking about the books

Star Wars canon is multimedia, not a book series. If you eliminate everything that's not a film or book then you'll get holes even if they were still developing the Legends universe.

God you aren't paying attention, I said I would like a closure to the books. Yes the happily ever after happens, A WHOLE 70-80 YEARS AFTER THE LAST BOOK. I want to know what happens with Ben and Vestara, and if Gev ever gets to go back to Mandalore etc.

Can you elaborate on this one?

It was pretty apparent that Denning and Traviss where having issues. The bouncing of the characterization of Cadeus was really bad. You would have him going from being slightly misguided, but heroic military officer to, well a Sith Lord. It was nuts. Especially with Traviss's hatred of the Jedi, her books really ruined any attempt at making Cadeus a good villian, as any momentum Alliston or Denning did was undone by Traviss. And when you have Luke Skywalker literally asking himself what Boba Fett would do, you have jumped into the Fett fanboy territory.

I really feel bad for Zahn, having one of his pet characters killed by Traviss, of all writers.

Yeah I didn't mind Fett in the second book either. It was the whole major character resigning from the military after being grounded and facing charges fom another character who A; Didn't outrank them, and B: had absolutely no authority to issue the orders that were refused.

Yea, I was a little perplexed by that one as well, although he did technically outrank her since he was Rogue Leader at that time.

Can you elaborate on this one?

I really feel bad for Zahn, having one of his pet characters killed by Traviss, of all writers.

That's my biggest complaint with the series, the derpiest death ever.

Its been a long time since I read the book and I don't have it handy but if memory serves she was Rogue Leader not he. He was Leader of GAG but they were the same rank, she had seniority, it was a Starfighter Corps mission not a GAG one, and if I remember the conversation where he accepted command of GAG at that point GAG's authority began and ended at Coruscant. The Chief of State traditionally serves as Coruscan't head of state as well, and it was under the authority of Coruscant's head of state GAG was formed because they didn't want to wait for the senate to ok it.

There's a lot wrong with LotF and FotJ. The upshot of the new canon is that hopefully it'll get swept clean of derp.

That, and I wouldn't be surprised if a certain Grand Admiral or at least his protegee sneak back in.

Its been a long time since I read the book and I don't have it handy but if memory serves she was Rogue Leader not he. He was Leader of GAG but they were the same rank, she had seniority, it was a Starfighter Corps mission not a GAG one, and if I remember the conversation where he accepted command of GAG at that point GAG's authority began and ended at Coruscant. The Chief of State traditionally serves as Coruscan't head of state as well, and it was under the authority of Coruscant's head of state GAG was formed because they didn't want to wait for the senate to ok it.

I just read the book, during the mission, he was given temporary command of the fighter wing by Niathal

Ok that's insane. Why would they even have two colonels in such a small force? It was three or four fighters on post including Jacen I believe. Having one colonel on duty at a time might make a little sense but having two at the same time for a force that would barely rate a Lieutenant though is crazy. There were almost certainly dozens of other blockade posts active given the size of the area they were trying to cover that he could have been at. It is just another example of most of the GA's leadership having lost their minds I guess. For that matter did Jacen have any experience commanding a fighter squadrom in combat at that point? In the Vong War he was usually coordinating forces from a capship not commanding fighter units or individual ships in the field though I don't recall exactly what he did throughout the Bug War. If the blockade was his first command that's even crazier. Colonel Newbie is bad enough. Colonel Newbie in command of a fighter wing when there are other officers with command experience to pick a wing leader from is madness!

No they don't, it ends with Crucible with Luke, Leia, and Han pseudo retiring, and the next series (that was cancelled), was supposed to have the endings of the Ben/Vestara story arc, and the Gev story arc.

I choose to believe the EU ended with Face Loran assuming control of GAI, the Wraiths bringing justice to the galaxy, and Wedge in happy retirement with his family.

Well that's the end of the X-wing story arc , but that's still a full year before Crucible

Are you telling me that people other than X-Wing pilots matter?

(replace "X-Wing pilots" with "Jedi or Jedi family members and you have the "official" position of Del Ray and Lucas Books. It's why I hold the position I do)

Yeah that's the main thing I hate about most of the late EU/Legends material. Everything revolves around the Jedi and the Force. Instead of being an important part of the story they became the story.Though I blame the PT for that.

Look at the main cast of the OT. One Force Sensitive in Jedi training, two smugglers turned rebels, two droids, one rebel politician who discovers that she is Force Sensitive the night before the final battle of the trilogy, and one gambler/city administrator/pilot who becomes a rebel.

Look at the PT. You have two Jedi, two droids, one politician whose only reason for being in the third movie is tied to her relationship with one of the Jedi because almost all of her other scenes were deleted, and an escapee or more likely a reject from scifi's most awful comedy who becomes a politician in Episode II and thankfully appear less and less in each movie following Episode I..

BKL,

My offer for you to provide evidence to support your position is still open.

I gave you three diffrent sources for you too look up. Look them up. Legends is secondary canon even if fine details conflict with primary canon the overall event is still canon. Take in mind legendsa lso exist inuniverse, these stories didnt come about without some real actions that infulanced them.

Most curious. So if this is the RZ-1, wtf is the A-WIng we're familiar with..?

Going by the picture and the tech books the ones in the show are RZ-1 Starfighters. The ones we have seen more offten are the RZ-1 Interceptors.

Yeah that's the main thing I hate about most of the late EU/Legends material. Everything revolves around the Jedi and the Force. Instead of being an important part of the story they became the story.Though I blame the PT for that.

Look at the main cast of the OT. One Force Sensitive in Jedi training, two smugglers turned rebels, two droids, one rebel politician who discovers that she is Force Sensitive the night before the final battle of the trilogy, and one gambler/city administrator/pilot who becomes a rebel.

Look at the PT. You have two Jedi, two droids, one politician whose only reason for being in the third movie is tied to her relationship with one of the Jedi because almost all of her other scenes were deleted, and an escapee or more likely a reject from scifi's most awful comedy who becomes a politician in Episode II and thankfully appear less and less in each movie following Episode I..

That's one of the reasons Allston is such an amazing writer, he always focuses on others (usually Wedge, Tycho, and Janson).

BKL,

My offer for you to provide evidence to support your position is still open.

I gave you three diffrent sources for you too look up. Look them up. Legends is secondary canon even if fine details conflict with primary canon the overall event is still canon. Take in mind legendsa lso exist inuniverse, these stories didnt come about without some real actions that infulanced them.

It's not my job to find your evidence.

Post your evidence.