You really don't understand do you? THE STORY IS DISCONTINUED.

What I mean is it would be nice if they would atleast finish it instead killing it on a cliff hanger

The story was already over 100 years past the movies. There was never going to be an ending in the first place.

You really don't understand do you? THE STORY IS DISCONTINUED.

What I mean is it would be nice if they would atleast finish it instead killing it on a cliff hanger

The story was already over 100 years past the movies. There was never going to be an ending in the first place.

I'm not talking about stupid comics, I'm talking about the books, they left too many loose ends, not to mention cancelled the series that was supposed to tie them up. The last book was written as a prequel, or prologue to the next series, that Disney cancelled.

I don't even know. I stopped reading the books once they started releasing prequel books.

I liked everything Zahn did, everything in the X-Wing novels, I liked most of the stuff in the Dark Empire comics. And I liked a lot of the stuff introduced in the video games.

Outside of that, most of the EU was meh.

Gimmie Thrawn. Gimmie Rogue Squadron. Gimmie Black Sun. Gimmie Cortosis.

I liked Zahn's works, most of the X-Wing series and pretty much anything their authors did, though I still think Mercy Kill shouldn't have had the -Wing Label on it. I liked a few other EU novels but thought some, especially those by L. Neil Smith, Anderson, Traviss and whoever wrote the Crystal Star were almost all awful. Though I did like No Prisoners for some reason.

"How many people are going to skip Eps 7 because of the canon changes LFL has made?"

Me for onet ill only go if the reviews are 8/10 or better otherwise I'll catch it on telly in a year or so.

I'm really not thrilled by releases and leaks up to this point.

I'm going at least twice, once with my closest friends and once with my mother. I think they have to be better then the prequels and I saw those each at least twice in theaters so its the least I can do.

Me for one ill only go if the reviews are 8/10 or better otherwise I'll catch it on telly in a year or so.

Yes, but is it because of the canon changes that LFL/Disney had made, or because you think it may be a bad movie like TPM? I expect a number of people will be a bit gunshy after the prequels.

Two factors first jarjar abrhams is a bad director I hate his films especially the trek ones, and the lore changes really rub me the wrong way I don't mind legitimate evolution but jar jar changes things just for the sake of change and I hate that.

I didn't hate his first Trek movie entirely though I definitely hated parts of it, pretty much the only Kobyashi Maru story in Trek history that I hate in fact. Into Darkness I hated completely.

And if either more then one space battle in The Force Awakens turns into a protagonist ship or protagonist allied ship being crippled in a few shots and then either ramming a hostile ship or deploying boarding parties or there is only one space battle in the film and it follows that pattern I will scream the first time I see it and step out for those battles the second time.

The Clone Wars Writes changed things just for the sake of change as well so I wouldn't be shocked if Abrams does the same unfortunately D:

I feel a LOT of what people have issues with the Star Trek movies rests mainly on the writers.

I liked the first new Star Trek just fine. 2nd one sucked.

I feel a LOT of what people have issues with the Star Trek movies rests mainly on the writers.

The writing was terrible with several plot holes and just plain wrong story elements such as Vulcan having a moon, but it goes way beyond that it's wrong on every level from ship design to having Orion slave girls in Starfleet, or uhura speaking Klingon.

Jarjar not only wasn't a fan it's very clear he did no research into what treks about which is why we got a generic popcorn movie with a trek paint job.

I feel a LOT of what people have issues with the Star Trek movies rests mainly on the writers.

The writing was terrible with several plot holes and just plain wrong story elements such as Vulcan having a moon, but it goes way beyond that it's wrong on every level from ship design to having Orion slave girls in Starfleet, or uhura speaking Klingon.

Jarjar not only wasn't a fan it's very clear he did no research into what treks about which is why we got a generic popcorn movie with a trek paint job.

So he gave ST the attention it deserved?

Honestly the idea of Uhura not speaking Klingon, or it not at least being in the universal translator in the prime universe never made sense to me.

And I didn't have a problem with them showing an Orion female who wasn't a dancing girl any more then I had a problem when The PT, The Clone Wars, Rebels,or the Star Wars EU showed a Twi'lwk female who wasn't a dancing girl.

I thought Kirk's attitude throughout most of both films was basically a spoiled brat in space, and if it was supposed to be anything like the original Kirk's it failed utterly. Sure original Kirk was willing to throw the rules out the window if he felt it was justified but he didn't throw a temper tantrum when he was facing punishment for doing so or try to hide what he had done. And I hated the whole Kobyashi.Maru scene. Plus they delayed Enterprise's construction by more then a decade with no explanation for the delay.

And then in Into Darkness things go utterly off the rails. Khan's blood somehow becomes a magic healing serum able to revive the dead, Carol Marcus goes from a civilian scientist wanting nothing to do with developing weapons to a Starfleet officer specializing in weapon design. Oh and somehow Khan manages to be recovered, adapt to 23rd century technology, design a new top of the line warship, and have that warship completed in less time then it to construct Enterprise despite the warship being much larger and thus reasonably taking more time in the construction phase rather then less. And somehow they manage to build this ship, and the shipyard used to construct it next to Jupiter and have no one notice it! That would be like having one of the Death Stars constructed in the Coruscant system and no one noticing.

Like I said, the writers. Orci/Kurtzman like their magic blood.

Basically, as of Into Darkness: There is no longer a need for starships (because of transwarp beaming) and death has no meaning (just mass produce Augment blood).

Yeah and the subject doesn't even need to be humanoid or havie died recently for the blood to work its insane.

The Transwarp beaming is almost as bad though I suppose you still need ships to locate planets and chart their orbits and surfaces to make sure you don't beam into empty space, the heart of a star, an acid ocean or anything like that.

I suppose you still need ships to locate planets and chart their orbits and surfaces to make sure you don't beam into empty space, the heart of a star, an acid ocean or anything like that.

Just beam an unmanned probe there first. If it's destroyed instantly, assume that it's not safe for people to port there.

I imagine that Starfleet's technological ability to locate exoplanets and determine their habitability far outstrips our own.

Not that we can, exactly, determine habitability. Yet. But we can locate them. And I believe we have technology in development to determine habitability (similar technology was used recently in Nepal to find survivors in collapsed buildings).

Just beam an unmanned probe there first. If it's destroyed instantly, assume that it's not safe for people to port there.

I suppose you still need ships to locate planets and chart their orbits and surfaces to make sure you don't beam into empty space, the heart of a star, an acid ocean or anything like that.

The problem is what happens if you beam probes into a rock or something? I suspect the result would be a rather large boom. Starfleet probably wouldn't want to risk accidentally cracking an M-class planet like an egg though they have done crazier things in the new universe so I could be wrong. Still stopping a transporter beam is much easier then stopping a ship and messed up transporter beams tend to have very nasty results.

The problem is what happens if you beam probes into a rock or something? I suspect the result would be a rather large boom. Starfleet probably wouldn't want to risk accidentally cracking an M-class planet like an egg

I sincerely doubt transporting a small sensor probe into a planet would make the planet explode. If it did, that would mean every ship with a transporter also had a Death Star cannon by default.

Most curious. So if this is the RZ-1, wtf is the A-WIng we're familiar with..?

Most curious. So if this is the RZ-1, wtf is the A-WIng we're familiar with..?

The R-22? RZ-2? RZ-1a?

The RZ-1. Same ship. It looks different because Rebels stylises things: Star Destroyers didn't use to have long necks, TIE fighters didn't use to have stubby wings and Vader didn't change his helmet style.

I wish they continued the EU as it's own little thing, they could've made a lot more money by having 2 separate canons, and not pissed off a lot of people.

Yeah, it sure would be awesome if they, like, renamed the EU continuity with it's own term and continued to allow other products to be released under that name. Man, that would have been so cool...

You really don't understand do you? THE STORY IS DISCONTINUED.

What I mean is it would be nice if they would atleast finish it instead killing it on a cliff hanger

They don't. They end on the galaxy merging into one supergovernment called the Federation Triumvirate. It's a happily ever after ending.

The RZ-1. Same ship.

This. The point of this thread was to point out that, while many people thought the A-Wings in this show were some kind of earlier model than the ones we see in RotJ, according to the show's website, they're not. They're the same ship.

I still think it's the R-22 Spearhead.

I'm glad they tossed the whole EU out. Most of it was garbage. There were a few great storylines (heir to the empire, etc.) but now they are free to burrow from it as much or as little as they want to create a better Canon across all media platforms.

While I agree that a large chunk of the EU was low quality (especially in recent years), I'm not optimistic that they're going to create anything close to as good as the parts of the EU that were high quality. So far, everything they've released under the new canon has been pretty mediocre. Once the September stuff hits, there's a chance that it'll be better, but I don't think that chance is very high. While Rucka is an excellent comics writer, the other writers don't inspire much hope.

The RZ-1. Same ship. It looks different because Rebels stylises things: Star Destroyers didn't use to have long necks, TIE fighters didn't use to have stubby wings and Vader didn't change his helmet style.

I wish they continued the EU as it's own little thing, they could've made a lot more money by having 2 separate canons, and not pissed off a lot of people.

Yeah, it sure would be awesome if they, like, renamed the EU continuity with it's own term and continued to allow other products to be released under that name. Man, that would have been so cool...

You really don't understand do you? THE STORY IS DISCONTINUED.

What I mean is it would be nice if they would atleast finish it instead killing it on a cliff hanger

They don't. They end on the galaxy merging into one supergovernment called the Federation Triumvirate. It's a happily ever after ending.

No they don't, it ends with Crucible with Luke, Leia, and Han pseudo retiring, and the next series (that was cancelled), was supposed to have the endings of the Ben/Vestara story arc, and the Gev story arc.

No they don't, it ends with Crucible with Luke, Leia, and Han pseudo retiring, and the next series (that was cancelled), was supposed to have the endings of the Ben/Vestara story arc, and the Gev story arc.

I choose to believe the EU ended with Face Loran assuming control of GAI, the Wraiths bringing justice to the galaxy, and Wedge in happy retirement with his family.

Look, I wish Legacy II would've been able to continue. Ania Solo is amazing. But, I'm not to sad to see it get tossed out. I have a great story. And continuity doesn't bother me too much.