Then why'd you bring it up?

You brought it up. It was you who said they'd stopped printing Legends material to back up the claim that Disney are "getting rid of" the EU and "pretending it never existed." I pointed this out as false: they still are printing Legends material. You then stated that they are not printing all of it, to which I replied that was the case before Disney and the canon change: that's not Disney's doing. You then said that you never said it was Disney's doing, to which I asked why you brought up old books going out of print in the first place.

Lets clear a few things up:

I said they aren't creating anything new

They still are only reprinting "the more popular series", anything else will eventually run out of circulation and never be reprinted. That's getting rid of pretty much everything except a few more "popular" things here and there. I never said it has anything to do with the canon change.

Which LFL was doing beforehand. They were also merrily overwriting chunks of the EU with TCW.

Why are you so adamant on not letting me have my own opinion?

You're entitled to your wrong opinion. But if you just keep saying it over and over again, then expect people who disagree to tell you you're wrong every time.

But don't expect to be able to go, "And in conclusion, I'm right! But this argument is dumb and you should stop saying I'm wrong now!" And expect people to play along.

Plus, the world of print has rapidly changed. They have not removed a single Star Wars novel from the e-book library. All the old novels are still available for purchase. So, they are not getting rid of it.

Now, the Dark Horse content is a different situation. But, Marvel has shown a desire to reprint the old Dark Horse stuff. It's just their TPB policies are not exactly great.

YES

I cannot fathom the mindset of anyone who sees a huge, rich fictional universe, and then wants to have the same 50 characters doing everything in it (whether that person is creating or consuming the fiction).

My go-to Star Wars sarcasm always revolves around the conceit that R2-D2 and C-3P0 are like the most important figures in the entire galaxy, because they're non-stop involved with all the most significant events.

If Chewbacca shows up in Rogue One I'm going to be gritting my teeth so hard timelines will unravel and the 1989 version of me will need to see a dentist.

That is the main reason I like the new canon so far. Reading the Heir to the Jedi novel, a minor movie character shows up (Major Bren Derlin) and he and his squad were doing a mission. Run of the mill operation, not single handedly liberating Mon Cala (Dac) or some nonsense.

We also don't know if the Mon Calamari are enslaved, as they were. Remember admiral Akbar used to be Tarkin's house elf.. Err.. Personal slave. Yet we see him in Clone Wars, he is a knowledgable military commander already. I suspect that while repressed, Dac will have not joined the rebellion till after the events of A New Hope, where the Emperor Disolves the senate.

Well we know that the Empire was enslaving Wookiees in both EU/Legends and canon and while we haven't see them enslaving Mon Calamari we haven't seen anything proving they weren't enslaved either so I wouldn't be surprised if we do see some Calamari slaves, and maybe even Ackbar's rescue. Though it will be interesting to see which of the two basic scenarios EU/Legends showed for his rescue they'll base it on or if they'll do a completely new one in the event that they show Ackbar's rescue.

The canon isn't dead.

Yes it is, no matter how many times you try to repeat this line you heard somewhere from someone, it clearly isn't true. Either the author didn't understand what was happening, or you didn't understand them.

But the old canon is clearly dead. TCW rewrote a fair amount of it. Rebels is rewriting a lot of it. The new movie and novels is going to finish the job.

For example we know that the Emperor did in fact die on the DSII and never returned. That alone makes huge sections of Legends non-canon, because they were about the return of Palp as a clone or some other way. You can't just handwave the main villain of a story being removed.

Now I know that pointing out facts that prove you wrong makes me a troll... But the facts are the facts, the EU is not going to survive 2015.

What some author who may not even be involved in SW anymore said doesn't change what's happening.

BKL,

My offer for you to provide evidence to support your position is still open.

The canon isn't dead.

Yes it is, no matter how many times you try to repeat this line you heard somewhere from someone, it clearly isn't true. Either the author didn't understand what was happening, or you didn't understand them.But the old canon is clearly dead. TCW rewrote a fair amount of it. Rebels is rewriting a lot of it. The new movie and novels is going to finish the job.For example we know that the Emperor did in fact die on the DSII and never returned. That alone makes huge sections of Legends non-canon, because they were about the return of Palp as a clone or some other way. You can't just handwave the main villain of a story being removed.Now I know that pointing out facts that prove you wrong makes me a troll... But the facts are the facts, the EU is not going to survive 2015.What some author who may not even be involved in SW anymore said doesn't change what's happening.

Nuhu in a decade we'll still remember the EU, no one's gonna remember rebels.

Really? Because I see Rebels being a lot of kid's introduction into Star Wars.

Really? Because I see Rebels being a lot of kid's introduction into Star Wars.

Better than the prequels I suppose but any responsible parent would sit down little Johnny and Jane then show them hope first.

but any responsible parent would sit down little Johnny and Jane then show them hope first.

My kids all saw the OT first, then I watched TCW and now Rebels with my youngest son. Who happens to love the show.

Of course it doesn't really matter what any of us think. LFL alone can decide what is or isn't canon, and none of us really have a say in the matter.

BKL has posted that nonsense about some writer making that comment in every thread dealing with canon for the last 6 months or so. He however has yet to provide a link or even a name of the writer who said that. Last time I asked him to back up that statement with proof, he called me a troll and I assume put me on ignore.

Why are you so adamant on not letting me have my own opinion?

You're entitled to your wrong opinion. But if you just keep saying it over and over again, then expect people who disagree to tell you you're wrong every time.

But don't expect to be able to go, "And in conclusion, I'm right! But this argument is dumb and you should stop saying I'm wrong now!" And expect people to play along.

That's getting rid of pretty much everything

Except, again, it's not. Because not printing new copies doesn't magically destroy the old copies that already exist.

Old copies of the Holiday special exist, yet Lucas did everything in his power to try to get rid of it.

The canon isn't dead.

But the old canon is clearly dead.

Careful, that's what I've been saying all along....

Careful, that's what I've been saying all along....

If someone were to want to debate if what LFL/Disney is doing is a good thing or not, that's not something I'd bother to get involved in.

But to try and claim that Legends is still canon in the face of what happened in TCW, what's happening in Rebels and what will happen in Aftermath and then Eps 7 is akin to claiming the earth is flat and rides on a giant space going turtle.

Careful, that's what I've been saying all along....

If someone were to want to debate if what LFL/Disney is doing is a good thing or not, that's not something I'd bother to get involved in.

But to try and claim that Legends is still canon in the face of what happened in TCW, what's happening in Rebels and what will happen in Aftermath and then Eps 7 is akin to claiming the earth is flat and rides on a giant space going turtle.

I wish they continued the EU as it's own little thing, they could've made a lot more money by having 2 separate canons, and not pissed off a lot of people.

and not pissed off a lot of people.

That I doubt would happen. They'd still piss off a bunch of people if they did that, maybe not as many but still a bunch.

But would it really matter? Would anyone stop buying new stuff just because it was Canon instead of Legends? How many people are going to skip Eps 7 because of the canon changes LFL has made?

What good would it really do? The EU was such a basket case of retcons and contradictions that there's really not much point in trying continue the stories from it as if it were a separate universe or timeline, kinda like what they did with the Star Trek movies.

Better IMO to do what they did then try and continue with both EU and new stories that are considered canon.

and not pissed off a lot of people.

That I doubt would happen. They'd still piss off a bunch of people if they did that, maybe not as many but still a bunch.

But would it really matter? Would anyone stop buying new stuff just because it was Canon instead of Legends? How many people are going to skip Eps 7 because of the canon changes LFL has made?

What good would it really do? The EU was such a basket case of retcons and contradictions that there's really not much point in trying continue the stories from it as if it were a separate universe or timeline, kinda like what they did with the Star Trek movies.

Better IMO to do what they did then try and continue with both EU and new stories that are considered canon.

I'm saying continue Legends as an alternate or mirror universe kind of thing. They'd make more money because they'd keep producing the old stuff which appeals to a lot of people like me, but they'd still have the fresh canon for newer generations, or people who weren't big fans of the EU.

I wish they continued the EU as it's own little thing, they could've made a lot more money by having 2 separate canons, and not pissed off a lot of people.

Yeah, it sure would be awesome if they, like, renamed the EU continuity with it's own term and continued to allow other products to be released under that name. Man, that would have been so cool...

Good thing nobody was trying to claim that then.

That's exactly what Black Knight Leader is claiming.

I'm glad they tossed the whole EU out. Most of it was garbage. There were a few great storylines (heir to the empire, etc.) but now they are free to burrow from it as much or as little as they want to create a better Canon across all media platforms.

I liked everything Zahn did, everything in the X-Wing novels, I liked most of the stuff in the Dark Empire comics. And I liked a lot of the stuff introduced in the video games.

Outside of that, most of the EU was meh.

Gimmie Thrawn. Gimmie Rogue Squadron. Gimmie Black Sun. Gimmie Cortosis.

"How many people are going to skip Eps 7 because of the canon changes LFL has made?"

Me for one ill only go if the reviews are 8/10 or better otherwise I'll catch it on telly in a year or so.

I'm really not thrilled by releases and leaks up to this point.

Me for one ill only go if the reviews are 8/10 or better otherwise I'll catch it on telly in a year or so.

Yes, but is it because of the canon changes that LFL/Disney had made, or because you think it may be a bad movie like TPM? I expect a number of people will be a bit gunshy after the prequels.

Me for one ill only go if the reviews are 8/10 or better otherwise I'll catch it on telly in a year or so.

Yes, but is it because of the canon changes that LFL/Disney had made, or because you think it may be a bad movie like TPM? I expect a number of people will be a bit gunshy after the prequels.

Two factors first jarjar abrhams is a bad director I hate his films especially the trek ones, and the lore changes really rub me the wrong way I don't mind legitimate evolution but jar jar changes things just for the sake of change and I hate that.

I wish they continued the EU as it's own little thing, they could've made a lot more money by having 2 separate canons, and not pissed off a lot of people.

Yeah, it sure would be awesome if they, like, renamed the EU continuity with it's own term and continued to allow other products to be released under that name. Man, that would have been so cool...

You really don't understand do you? THE STORY IS DISCONTINUED.

What I mean is it would be nice if they would atleast finish it instead killing it on a cliff hanger