Does stress negate the ability to take ANY actions?

By balindamood, in X-Wing Rules Questions

Need a ruling on this:

Example: Turr Phennir's ability reads "After you perform an attack, you may perform a free boost or barrel roll action." If Turr had performed a K turn prior to the attack and has a stress token, can he barrel role or boost after attacking?

I say no. It is an action. Obviously, other see it differently.

Thanks.

Need a ruling on this:

Example: Turr Phennir's ability reads "After you perform an attack, you may perform a free boost or barrel roll action." If Turr had performed a K turn prior to the attack and has a stress token, can he barrel role or boost after attacking?

I say no. It is an action. Obviously, other see it differently.

Thanks.

You are correct.

There are very few things that can prevent free actions:

  1. Stress
  2. Having already performed that action this round
  3. Being specifically forbidden from executing that action (like if Turr's Boost/Barrel Roll options would all result in collisions)

Need a ruling on this:

Example: Turr Phennir's ability reads "After you perform an attack, you may perform a free boost or barrel roll action." If Turr had performed a K turn prior to the attack and has a stress token, can he barrel role or boost after attacking?

I say no. It is an action. Obviously, other see it differently.

Thanks.

Page 17, under "stress" is pretty clear.

Edited by Forgottenlore

Yep, this is a hard one to argue against. :D

Any misunderstandings might come from the free action part.

Yep. "Free" is the source of misunderstanding.

A free action does not count as the one action allowed during the perform action step of the activation phase. Other than that, a free action is an action for all intends and purposes. All other rules for actions apply. Stress prevents any and all actions (1).

(1)

Every thread about stress and actions requires a posting about the exception Tycho. Here it is.

Yep. "Free" is the source of misunderstanding.

Rulebook, page 17:

While a ship has at least one stress token, it cannot execute red maneuvers or perform any actions (even free actions).

And as dvor stated, Tycho is the one exception to this. He's also a prime example of "Breaking the Rules" (page 20) as his card text overrides the general rule, but it's only his card, no others.

Edited by Parravon

Then there is the debate about Tycho's card where the card refers to stress token (singular), the argument being that if he becomes double-stressed, he cannot take an action. Not sure which way this goes, but I have always assumed he can do whatever he wants dragging a pile of stress tokens with him.

Then there is the debate about Tycho's card where the card refers to stress token (singular), ...

It uses the plural (tokens).

... the argument being that if he becomes double-stressed, he cannot take an action.

One might argue that he cannot perform an action when he has exactly one stress token.

Not sure which way this goes, but I have always assumed he can do whatever he wants dragging a pile of stress tokens with him.

Your assumption is correct. 20+ stress tokens on Tycho are not unheard of.

Maybe the confusion lies in the word 'acquire' ... (Didn't see that mentioned yet) .. I'm referring to Dutch Vander's ability .. if I have a ship that is stressed, Dutch moves in close and does a target lock action .. my stressed ship can 'acquire' a target lock (if available) ... This is correct yes or no... Don't wanna play him wrong...

Maybe the confusion lies in the word 'acquire' ... (Didn't see that mentioned yet) .. I'm referring to Dutch Vander's ability .. if I have a ship that is stressed, Dutch moves in close and does a target lock action .. my stressed ship can 'acquire' a target lock (if available) ... This is correct yes or no... Don't wanna play him wrong...

Yes, a stressed ship can "acquire a target lock", but it can't "take the target lock action". There's a subtle distinction there.

For example, a ship with Fire Control System gets to acquire a target lock after shooting. Because the card says to acquire, not take an action, it doesn't matter if the ship is stressed or not. It also doesn't matter if they took the target lock action earlier in the turn or not.

It's the same thing as the difference between "assign a focus token" and "take the focus action." You can do the first one while stressed, but not the second.

Correct. As long as it doesn't say "Action", it's not an action.

[Edit - :ph34r: ]

Edited by Smuggler

Those damned rules books... all full of... rules. ;)

But yeah, it's an easy thing to misunderstand when starting out in this game.

I was confident we had it right .. thanks all...