If I was to run a tournament, what would I need to run a twitch feed with all the bells and whistles of the really good twitch feeds I have seen?
Obviously a camera or two but I am more concerned about programs/editing/graphics addition abilities.
If I was to run a tournament, what would I need to run a twitch feed with all the bells and whistles of the really good twitch feeds I have seen?
Obviously a camera or two but I am more concerned about programs/editing/graphics addition abilities.
We use OBS software. Allows editable, movable text, pictures, pic in pic videos, multiple cameras, etc. However you'll need high quality HD webcams, so if you have 2 or 3 it can eat up your ram or processor pretty fast. And make sure the shop or location has adequate internet coverage. Our store owner had to upgrade his service plan to make it work well and not get charged overages. My only complaint is that in order to edit the objects in a scene, they scene has to be live. You can't have one screen up while you edit the next one. So for expediency, for or weekly show, I always type up all the lists into a word processor and can then just copy and paste then into OBS. Helps do it much faster.
Our twitch feed is twitch.tv/fcbcomicsgames. Give me a second to get the YouTube link
Edited by Engine25Working in getting a custom URL but need500 subs first.
As far as the Youtube videos I've seen:
1.) A clear view of the dice results, or graphics representing what they are.
2.) Number the ships AND the on screen ship cards.
3.) Try to tape some matches of some interesting lists. I've seen enough Turretwing lists yet that's like 90% of the battle reports on Youtube. Regardless of how you feel about turrets this is boring seeing the same lists over and over.
I don't how well these would translate to Twitch but these are what I look for in a Battle report video.
We use OBS software. Allows editable, movable text, pictures, pic in pic videos, multiple cameras, etc. However you'll need high quality HD webcams, so if you have 2 or 3 it can eat up your ram or processor pretty fast. And make sure the shop or location has adequate internet coverage. Our store owner had to upgrade his service plan to make it work well and not get charged overages. My only complaint is that in order to edit the objects in a scene, they scene has to be live. You can't have one screen up while you edit the next one. So for expediency, for or weekly show, I always type up all the lists into a word processor and can then just copy and paste then into OBS. Helps do it much faster.
Our twitch feed is twitch.tv/fcbcomicsgames. Give me a second to get the YouTube link
You guys did a fantastic job with the Atlanta Regional. Text on the screen was kept current with ship status. The identifying text following the ships made it easy to keep track of who was who.
Perhaps the biggest thing was the commentators who knew the game mechanics and helped coverage of gameplay flow for the viewer. Discussing possible moves, outcomes and having good analysis actually helps relatively inexperienced players like me get better. Some players are more camera-aware than others in terms of rolling dice in frame, holding crits up to the camera, and even making hand gestures and reacting to results.
Amazed you managed to stay awake and coherent til the end around 4:30AM. I had to stay up and watch our local guy, Josh, until the end, but you guys were troopers from beginning to end.
After watching the Atalanta regional. I would say a good twitch feed needs to have a free ship give-away.
Working in getting a custom URL but need500 subs first.
This link's just taking me to the YT home page ![]()
I stream occasionally, although I don't stream X-Wing. I've also watched a lot of XWMG streams. Here's what is important:
High upload speed. You need at least 3 MB/s that you can dedicate entirely to stream upload.
Framing. The camera angle needs to cover the entire table at as close to a top-down perspective as possible. If you're including overlays for information, try to make sure they don't cover the table!
Lighting. Your table needs to be well lit so your camera isn't using the highest ISO setting. If it does, the images will be very grainy and low quality. The importance of properly lighting your table cannot be understated. No, your store's lights are probably not sufficient.
Microphone. Get a good microphone with preferably a bidirectional pattern. You don't want to hear everything going on in the store but you do want to hear the players talk. A good built-in mic may be ok if you have commentary.
Commentators. As an addition or alternative to a good microphone, you can use commentators that can update the overlays as well as have physical access to the table to see what's going on in case something happens too quickly. They're also just interesting to listen to. As mentioned, you can completely ignore the live audio if you have a couple of good commentators who are paying attention to the game, have a very good grasp of the rules, and are interesting people.
OBS is perfectly fine for streaming anything. It can do custom overlays and whatever else you need. Overlays aren't necessary, and in my opinion even a simple text-based overlay on ships/upgrades/stats is all that is really needed. I'd rather have great quality video, audio, and commentators over an overlay.
Stream moderator. You need someone with physical access to the streaming computer and camera to be monitoring the Twitch chat and making sure the stream itself doesn't randomly die at some point, because that happens on twitch. This person can also update overlays if one of the commentators doesn't want to, or can be a commentator himself. And finally, this person does hands-on technical support in case someone bumps the camera or whatever.
FCB did a great job. Exactly what was needed, nothing that wasn't needed. Sure they made some mistakes, but that's understandable for commentating near the end of a 16 hour tournament.
Edited by KoshinnCheck out paradoxcnc for the best twitch set up I have seen. The had two cameras and split the screen into list area, play area and dice boxes
In addition to what others have suggested:
1. Mute table audio if its too loud/annoying
2. Have commentators who understand the game and have interesting/funny things to say. Its common sense, but...
3. If able, stream the most interesting games being played. Sorry, but turretwing just isn't fun to watch IMO.
4. If chat isn't visible in full-screen, have commentators repeat comments from before audibly replying to them.
5. Sound effects can be cool/funny, just don't go overboard.
6. Have a couple player interviews and stream the prize presentations, show some love for the players as well.
You guys did a fantastic job with the Atlanta Regional. Text on the screen was kept current with ship status. The identifying text following the ships made it easy to keep track of who was who.We use OBS software. Allows editable, movable text, pictures, pic in pic videos, multiple cameras, etc. However you'll need high quality HD webcams, so if you have 2 or 3 it can eat up your ram or processor pretty fast. And make sure the shop or location has adequate internet coverage. Our store owner had to upgrade his service plan to make it work well and not get charged overages. My only complaint is that in order to edit the objects in a scene, they scene has to be live. You can't have one screen up while you edit the next one. So for expediency, for or weekly show, I always type up all the lists into a word processor and can then just copy and paste then into OBS. Helps do it much faster.
Our twitch feed is twitch.tv/fcbcomicsgames. Give me a second to get the YouTube link
Perhaps the biggest thing was the commentators who knew the game mechanics and helped coverage of gameplay flow for the viewer. Discussing possible moves, outcomes and having good analysis actually helps relatively inexperienced players like me get better. Some players are more camera-aware than others in terms of rolling dice in frame, holding crits up to the camera, and even making hand gestures and reacting to results.
Amazed you managed to stay awake and coherent til the end around 4:30AM. I had to stay up and watch our local guy, Josh, until the end, but you guys were troopers from beginning to end.
In addition to what others have suggested:
1. Mute table audio if its too loud/annoying
2. Have commentators who understand the game and have interesting/funny things to say. Its common sense, but...
3. If able, stream the most interesting games being played. Sorry, but turretwing just isn't fun to watch IMO.
4. If chat isn't visible in full-screen, have commentators repeat comments from before audibly replying to them.
5. Sound effects can be cool/funny, just don't go overboard.
6. Have a couple player interviews and stream the prize presentations, show some love for the players as well.
That's what we do! Or try to...
Working in getting a custom URL but need500 subs first.https://youtube.com/#/channel/UCzWuajaszy3CNK8827wy9bg
This link's just taking me to the YT home page
Search YouTube for North Atlanta Game Company and also FCB Games. Were having some issues with the FCB account do err made a new one, the north atl one is up to date with the current episodes and our Regional Replays.
PS, sorry to all for the successive posts. My phone hates the multi quote button.
In addition to what others have suggested:
1. Mute table audio if its too loud/annoying
2. Have commentators who understand the game and have interesting/funny things to say. Its common sense, but...
3. If able, stream the most interesting games being played. Sorry, but turretwing just isn't fun to watch IMO.
4. If chat isn't visible in full-screen, have commentators repeat comments from before audibly replying to them.
5. Sound effects can be cool/funny, just don't go overboard.
6. Have a couple player interviews and stream the prize presentations, show some love for the players as well.
That's what we do! Or try to...
I'll check you guys out tonight, then ![]()
Thanks for all the feedback everyone.
I'll check you guys out tonight, thenIn addition to what others have suggested:
1. Mute table audio if its too loud/annoying
2. Have commentators who understand the game and have interesting/funny things to say. Its common sense, but...
3. If able, stream the most interesting games being played. Sorry, but turretwing just isn't fun to watch IMO.
4. If chat isn't visible in full-screen, have commentators repeat comments from before audibly replying to them.
5. Sound effects can be cool/funny, just don't go overboard.
6. Have a couple player interviews and stream the prize presentations, show some love for the players as well.
That's what we do! Or try to...
I'm actually not sure they went live. I got stuck at work and apparently they're encountering tech difficulties I've never seen before. I'm not there to trouble shoot it so I think they deferred till next week I'll let you know.
Before I go on a rant as a viewer, let me try to answer your main question simply:
1) OBS is great and it gives you lots of overlay options to display information about the game/tourney easily and quickly and you can move/change stuff without too much hassle.
2) Use it's overlay ability to provide on screen lists of what is being flown and track damage/crits
3) Use Twitches private functionality to view your stream before going live. This will let you make sure it's all nicely laid out with good audio levels before any viewers see it.
4) Look into getting moobot or nightbot on twitch. It's a nice little auto moderator you can activate that lets you do lots of cool things. One of my favorites is making polls with it. It also helps give info to viewers with commands. For example if people want to know how many people are in the tourney, you can make a command that the viewers can type to get the answer automatically such as !turnout and then after they enter it, moo/nightbot will reply with your specified answer.
Now for a little rant because I want more enjoyable X-Wing streams to watch...
As someone that watches X-Wing on Twitch whenever I can, these are musts:
1) Clear picture (at least 480p @ 30fps. 720p minimum preferred) and a good angle. The happy medium on angle seems to be 45 degrees with a very stable camera.
2) Clear audio with good levels. Audio inconsistency/bad quality can get very annoying very fast.
3) Visual static representation of List and Damage. These are the two things that always need to be displayed. OBS lets you put in easy overlays for this. Always display the list and H/S of ships.
4) Decent commentary. What I mean by decent is, at the bare minimum, you want play by play (someone to call out what rolls/maneuvers are made and what damage/crits are taken). If you cant have someone give play by play, then at least make sure dice/damage can be seen and put on some music.
As of my time watching X-Wing on stream, here's a list of what has made me lose interest/leave a stream (in no order):
1) Silence/bad audio.
2) Unclear picture (refer to #1 on previous list)
3) No list information. I don't want to have to ask in chat what the opponents are flying. I can get by without damage tracking, but it is a big deal sometimes.
If you follow the previous points, you're doing great in my book, but here are some great additions to any stream to really make me stick around:
1) Commentator interaction. Answering chat questions and discussing things with chat.
2) Speculation and critique. I enjoy hearing commentators who know the game well speculate what players should do each turn and also talk about and discuss any mistakes they are making.
3) Regular overall tourney updates. There's more going on outside of the particular game being shown. Let us know every so often how other matches are going or who has won at other tables.
4) Visually stunning play mats. FCB Comics and games has a bunch of custom made boards they play on. Always nice to watch a game on a good looking game board/mat.