How much standings information to show players during an event?

By Scarloochie, in X-Wing

Howdy folks,

For those who have been to a National, Regional, and/or Worlds event, how much info does a player have access to during the event. IE. points, Mov, SoS pretty much the right info window on Cryodex?

Were you able to view the standings on a round by round basis, or were you left having to ask around the play area how the standings were going?

Cheers :)

You won't have that info on demand.

I see so at the Worlds and Nationals, no info such as MOV, SOS, etc., is shown to the players. Is this standard in the large events?

At Regional at the FFG Event Center your table number gave you some idea where you were in the standings.

The higher your table #, the higher you were in the standings.

At the KC regional, they posted the full standings every few rounds so folks could see how they were doing.

I don't see the harm in it.

There's a pro and con to this. Knowledge of your standings and MoV might promote "point protecting". I didn't know my MoV at regionals in comparison to others, but I instinctively flew two weak ships away in my final 2 swiss rounds to save 12 points each time. I made 6th, and 11th place was same score and less than 24 MoV points difference from my score. So if I lost those ships I wouldn't have made the cut. If I knew that ahead of time I would've done the same thing though so I guess it wouldn't have affected the outcome.

I think it should be open. I played in a tournament where the TO made an honest error and switched my score and an opponents score. If we hadn't questioned it I would not have placed. If it isn't open knowledge then such errors might go unnoticed until it is too late.

I've played in tournaments that have shown and others that havnt.

Rather than know mov, I'd rather know table. Be at table 6 or higher and win your last game.

I'm not saying that they should or should not, only that FFG is not usually infront of themselves in running large events. So it is unlikely they will provide standings simply because they won't have time to do so.

I feel like you should show all information to everybody. I'm the Jim Holden of X-Wing.

People who really want to can work out other people's MoV by asking around between rounds. May as well just give everyone that same info.

Knowing how annoying it is to every other person at the tournament to have that one or two "tournament minded" people bugging everyone else by asking, its a lot easier to just have all that info known. Put it on a 2nd monitor so people that want to can look at it as they see fit.

Even in casual tournaments our local store puts up all the info on a large monitor in the store so everyone can see. Works pretty good! If errors go in its caught immediately as well (hasn't happened yet, but have seen this at the same store with Magic tournaments)

Thanks for the replies folks, seems like showing MoV is more common. My only worry is that it could facilitate collusion between players with exact MoV details known.

Edited by Scarloochie

It is possible that people may work together but, that is against the rules. I'm not saying that would stop people from breaking the rules. Those that wish to cheat will cheat regardless. Also, I can only speak for those that I play with, we are competitive and would rather win fairly.

I'm not saying that they should or should not, only that FFG is not usually infront of themselves in running large events. So it is unlikely they will provide standings simply because they won't have time to do so.

I agree, that is not how FFG usually does it.

It is really lazy though. It takes a total of 5 more seconds to print off standings when you print off pairings for the next round. Transparency would be nice.

At Regional at the FFG Event Center your table number gave you some idea where you were in the standings.The higher your table #, the higher you were in the standings.

Exactly, after the first round just look your table number. Keep your head in the current match. If you don't win your MOV won't boost you into the finals. With 6 rounds at the larger tournaments you need at least 5 wins to have the best chance of making the top 8-16. Less than that and all the other stats won't matter. It's just a distraction.