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So, never really played agot before, but I am planning on jumping in second edition. The Iron Throne card looked seriously powerful. It looked neutral, so will everyone want max copies in the deck? Will games potentially come down to "I got the Iron Throne in play first, I win"? I hope not. What do experienced players say?

So, never really played agot before, but I am planning on jumping in second edition. The Iron Throne card looked seriously powerful. It looked neutral, so will everyone want max copies in the deck? Will games potentially come down to "I got the Iron Throne in play first, I win"? I hope not. What do experienced players say?

The 8 STR sounds like a huge number, which it is, but keep in mind that no matter how much the value by which you win dominance, you still only get 1 power from it each turn.

Dominance is a "fringe" benefit. While having 8str towards dominance will almost certainly guarantee you get a power a turn, you need 15 power to win, and in 1.0, most games are over in 3-7 turns. It also puts that power on your faction card, where it is vulnerable to being stolen - and, since the meat of the game is the challenges phase (and this contributes nothing to it) - that 2 gold and a card can probably be spent elsewhere. Furthermore, drawing a second copy of the Iron Throne is a (mostly) wasted card, so I doubt people will be running a full playset. I don't think it's a bad card, but it certainly doesn't scream "broken" to me.

That said, +1 Reserve modifier does look quite powerful and may be justification enough to run the card - we have no experience with reserve modifiers, and that one is hard to predict.

But, if you're Baratheon and you can turn "win more" into "win," then maybe the Iron Throne is your jam.

I cant wait for this game.

So, never really played agot before, but I am planning on jumping in second edition. The Iron Throne card looked seriously powerful. It looked neutral, so will everyone want max copies in the deck? Will games potentially come down to "I got the Iron Throne in play first, I win"? I hope not. What do experienced players say?

As has been mentioned before. Dominance only gives 1 extra power each turn and the Iron Throne only increases your chance. It's isn't even a garanteed.

Defensive decks might consider it and decks that can trigger extra effects from winning dominance will probably run it.

In First edition there was a version of The Iron Throne that automaticly made you the winner in dominance and even that card wasn't widely used in my local meta.

The catch on that card is that you have to be the only player to control The Iron Throne, and there is another version which is popular (the Lannister one, which is about canceling triggered character abilities), so you had a very real chance of not getting anything out of it (except shutting off the other player's Iron Throne). The 2nd Ed one gives you one benefit regardless (the +1 reserve) and a sizable bonus in dominance (8 STR would very often give you dominance in 1st Ed).

I realy hope that there will be in-faction loyal Iron thrones in second edition and this one is here to both create an opportunity cost and compensate the factions which will never get one (like Night's Watch).

I can't think of a reason why they wouldn't come out with any in-faction Iron Thrones. Maybe it will take some time depending on the timeline, but they might want to release more faction specific unique locations before any in-faction Iron Thrones though. I think it will be quite some time.

The catch on that card is that you have to be the only player to control The Iron Throne, and there is another version which is popular (the Lannister one, which is about canceling triggered character abilities), so you had a very real chance of not getting anything out of it (except shutting off the other player's Iron Throne). The 2nd Ed one gives you one benefit regardless (the +1 reserve) and a sizable bonus in dominance (8 STR would very often give you dominance in 1st Ed).

It must just be that this version of the Iron Throne is big enough for at least two people to sit it, as long as they're being extra careful (and are not King Robert).

Fun fact, The Iron Throne is hands down the card with the most different versions in 1st Ed, with no fewer than 20.

I wonder why they decided to include a neutral card in the Baratheon preview. I wanted more Baratheon goodness. In 1st Ed were Joffrey and Tommen considered Lannister or Baratheon?

They were always affiliated with the Lannisters (despite being named Baratheon), though one version of Joffrey was also affilated to the Baratheons. Their sister Myrcella was always named Lannister (though I've always wished for consistency in that regard), and was affiliated with the Lannisters, Martells or both.