Winning the bid meant more to me before I got a better grasp of the game. Now I focus on creative listing to try to 'squeeze the lemons' so to speak.

I hear that's a crime in certain countries

I used to underbid by about five points or so, back in April/May. Objectives seemed to be more important then. Now objectives seem to matter less, and I don't worry about the bid much.

It's worthwhile, I think, to talk about these questions with your regular opponents. That way you learn how they're thinking about these issues, and you can plan accordingly.

You see me bid all the time Mikael and i get my choice (usually first) it works for me

We actually haven't had all that many games against one another, nor do I watch you as closely as I probably should. It's one thing to say one is going to be hyperobservant. It's another to actually make the time and effort to actually do it. The same is true about internalizing the ins and outs of all the objectives and the advantages of initiative, etc.

Winning the bid meant more to me before I got a better grasp of the game. Now I focus on creative listing to try to 'squeeze the lemons' so to speak.

When life gives you d'ick, it's time to make d'ickade!

Like quite a few here, I build the list I want and focus more on not going over 300 points, I prefer going first and just picking Objectives I can handle easiest, or just making the most out of my Objective.