Each character on the page takes up quite a bit more space, too. I imagine you have to go to newspaper folio sizes if you want to keep the same number of pages.

The wikipedia page for Braille Transcription says:

Braille characters are much larger than their printed equivalents, and the standard 11" by 11.5" (28 cm × 30 cm) page has room for only 25 lines of 43 characters.

However, it also goes on to say that braille is usually written in an abbreviated or “compressed” form where single braille characters stand in for common words, like “b” for “but” or “c” for “can”. If the standard printed page has 66 lines and ~80 characters per line, that’s about 5KB of textual information per page. Without the previously mentioned compression, Braille can only get about 1KB per page.

So, a book in Braille would most likely have somewhat more pages than the same book printed using more traditional means, in addition to using much heavier paper for each page, and much larger pages.

If I remember correctly from a friend who's blind, and currently learning braille, she said braille has more than just alphanumeric character equivalents, there are contracted characters as well (words shortened to a single character). However it is quite large in size, so I think there would still be a massive trade off. Probably at least 2:1 IMHO.

Dag nabbit, bradknowles, you beat me to it.

That's the last time I answer the phone mid-reply.

Yikes, and the EotE rulebook is already a heavy page count. A braille version would the size of a pizza box and as thick as War and Peace.

Well, the upside is that you could use it to stop a bullet if necessary.

Yikes, and the EotE rulebook is already a heavy page count. A braille version would the size of a pizza box and as thick as War and Peace.

Well, the upside is that you could use it to stop a bullet if necessary.

But you'd cry.

Here's a good reference. A Game Of Thrones, A Song of Ice and Fire weighs in at over 1400 pages and costs over $200 (140£). The Empire Strikes Back is about 300 pages and costs about $50.

There's standard Braile (aka Grade 2) with symbols for some extremely common words and others for common combinations like th, ch, ou, ow and double letters like tt, dd, etc. but that just helps a little. But the rules developed differently in different nations so the symbols weren't always uniform depending on where a book came from.

Unified English Braille came along in the 1990s and tried to create an international standard for English speaking countries. The result is less combination symbols and larger books but more useful books, particularly technical books.

No more schooling for today... and it looks like I ended up threadjacking after all.

Sorry...

It is okay to derail a thread that is about wanting no more FFG SWRPG books... because I always want more!

That said, if it stated "no more specialization decks" I would fully support it.

It is okay to derail a thread that is about wanting no more FFG SWRPG books... because I always want more!

That said, if it stated "no more specialization decks" I would fully support it.

What?!? No way! As we add more books, I hope we keep adding specializations!

You don't have to buy any you don't want to use... and they are at least moderately reasonably priced.

Does FFG sell PDF versions of the books? I would love to make use of a tablet rather than a bookshelf.

I'll check for FFG apps on Android.

Does FFG sell PDF versions of the books? I would love to make use of a tablet rather than a bookshelf.

I'll check for FFG apps on Android.

Well... no. Not for the Star Wars games, anyway. There's some legal mumbo jumbo involved that defines pdf's as falling into the category of computer games and the license for computer games belongs to another company.

Can they get permission from the other company? Have they tried? How does Darth Vader use the bathroom in that suit?

All these mysteries with so few answers...

Around this time, my group has moved on from FFG Star Wars due to my unfortunate inability to run a good campaign... Regardless, I'm still buying all the books if for nothing more than to say "Look at my glorious books!"

Also, for the whole deal with the PDFs--while I can see how it can be useful for others, I, personally, don't have much interest in PDFs. I really don't like 'em; much better to have something physical right smack dab in front of my face that I can feel and read and smell (new book smell... ahhh...).

Furthermore, I call it a small shelf that can't hold the FFG Star Wars material. The books take up half of one row on mine, and my shelf has three rows.

Around this time, my group has moved on from FFG Star Wars due to my unfortunate inability to run a good campaign... Regardless, I'm still buying all the books if for nothing more than to say "Look at my glorious books!"

Also, for the whole deal with the PDFs--while I can see how it can be useful for others, I, personally, don't have much interest in PDFs. I really don't like 'em; much better to have something physical right smack dab in front of my face that I can feel and read and smell (new book smell... ahhh...).

Furthermore, I call it a small shelf that can't hold the FFG Star Wars material. The books take up half of one row on mine, and my shelf has three rows.

Some of my players feel the same way. I am more comfortable with PDFs - especially the quick search functionality.

Alas it sounds like that's not in the cards for FFG Star Wars rpgs for now.

... Regardless, I'm still buying all the books if for nothing more than to say "Look at my glorious books!"

FFG luvs you....

Here's a good reference. A Game Of Thrones, A Song of Ice and Fire weighs in at over 1400 pages and costs over $200 (140£). The Empire Strikes Back is about 300 pages and costs about $50.

Egads! That's quite a pretty penny (um, I mean pence). Mind you, as an anime fan from the eighties where you would buy a 50 episode series two episodes on a tape at 60 bucks a go, I understand that niche products can be expensive.

On another note - you're from the UK? I had no idea. Have you met the Doctor yet?

No more schooling for today... and it looks like I ended up threadjacking after all.

Naw, it's my thread and I give you permission to hijack away!

How does Darth Vader use the bathroom in that suit?

Let the record show that Google's autocomplete for "How does Darth Vader. . . " is "Poop".

I'm not from the UK but I know a lot of people on this forum are so I looked up the conversion.

And I'm afraid to know how Darth Vader poops. That's a mystery that needs no solving!

I'm not from the UK but I know a lot of people on this forum are so I looked up the conversion.

And I'm afraid to know how Darth Vader poops. That's a mystery that needs no solving!

The Dark Side is a path to many abilities others consider... unnatural.

Even if I never played the game, they're just so darned pretty that I'd have to buy them all!

I don't really store mine anywhere. They're either sitting on the dining room table from the last session, upstairs awaiting the next session, or stuffed in a carry-on roller case for a convention. My stack is starting to get impressively large, however.

Ogg, I vaguely remember you mentioning you are in the SF Bay Area (East-ish)... Do you run games at local conventions? I was signed up to run a session at KublaCon this year but had to cancel last minute because of a work deadline conflict. I've only ever GM'd this and would love to get a chance to play, even if it was a convention one-shot.

On topic, I'm still eagerly awaiting the Bounty Hunter and Technician career books for Edge....even though the cubby in the shelf I store my FFG SW book collection in is nearing max capacity now as well. I'm really hoping for some more region books like Lords of Nal Hutta, Suns of Fortune, and the new Strongholds book that is coming for AoR... and maybe a couple more published adventures themed for 'Edge.' The splat books for AoR and F&D interest me slightly less, I've never been all that jedi obsessed, and prefer the notion that they are still very much all but extinct as this point, and the 'Wild-West in Space' theme really speaks to me more that the direct and focused 'galactic civil war' soldiers...but still, I will likely grab everything for the completeness and max variety....though having been following Star Wars: Rebels, a campaign set 10 years BBY sounds likeit would be a lot of fun too!

Were you the one who was supposed to run that Whisper Base game, on Friday, I think? I actually sat in on that game, then ran a game for a few of the people there

Dear FFG -

With the release of Desperate Allies, my gaming book bookshelf has no more room on it. I physically cannot put more material on it. So, please stop printing new EotE, AoR and F&D material.

Thank you very much.

I now agree... I've just spent over an hour trying to make more room... all I've managed to do is actually move the splat books about,,, I'll have to have either EotE, AoR or F&D core rules on the desk permanently and one career/advenure module on the desk or downstairs table on rotation.. any new releases I buy from now on will have to be stacked next to the sofa... *facepalm*

My reason for buying the FFG Star Wars stuff is, as a player, I never got round to buying either the d6 or d20 core rules, now I'm GMing. well:

CURSE YOU FFG, WITH YOUR GORGEOUS ARTWORK AND SPLAT!!

I ran out of space in my SW cabinet a while back... My wife noticed.

All of a sudden I had two books in my pack where ever we went and there was one on the nightstand as well as one next to the bathtub.

She bought me a bigger cabinet.