No pdf's also means blind players, like myself and others on this forum, are left out... unless we do something naughty.

I protested. Marched around in front of FFG's offices with signs and everything. Learned Braille signs are not the best way to get the message out... Also learned not to trust my brother to take me to a protest. Pretty sure FFG's office isn't a pizzeria.

If you are in fact blind and not just tying to be amusing, I would be very interested to know what other sorts of adjustments you have had to make in order to play? I assume you would need either somebody to tell you what your dice rolls are or a digital speaking dice program. Are there other complications that I am not thinking of?

No pdf's also means blind players, like myself and others on this forum, are left out... unless we do something naughty.

I protested. Marched around in front of FFG's offices with signs and everything. Learned Braille signs are not the best way to get the message out... Also learned not to trust my brother to take me to a protest. Pretty sure FFG's office isn't a pizzeria.

If you are in fact blind and not just tying to be amusing, I would be very interested to know what other sorts of adjustments you have had to make in order to play? I assume you would need either somebody to tell you what your dice rolls are or a digital speaking dice program. Are there other complications that I am not thinking of?

Go search out her posts. She's mentioned quite a few ways she's had to work around issues.

No pdf's also means blind players, like myself and others on this forum, are left out... unless we do something naughty.

I protested. Marched around in front of FFG's offices with signs and everything. Learned Braille signs are not the best way to get the message out... Also learned not to trust my brother to take me to a protest. Pretty sure FFG's office isn't a pizzeria.

If you are in fact blind and not just tying to be amusing, I would be very interested to know what other sorts of adjustments you have had to make in order to play? I assume you would need either somebody to tell you what your dice rolls are or a digital speaking dice program. Are there other complications that I am not thinking of?

I'm both! Dice are an issue but I use the ipad app and someone reads the results. Other than that, I don't want to threadjack (again!) and I don't know what you're thinking of so I can't say what you're not.

I'm both! Dice are an issue but I use the ipad app and someone reads the results. Other than that, I don't want to threadjack (again!) and I don't know what you're thinking of so I can't say what you're not.

I seem to recall that there are Optical Character Recognition apps/devices out there that can be used on printed material. Have you tried any of those? Has anything like that worked for you?

My three existing bookshelves are filled with legions of RPG books from 2nd Edition through 3rd Edition D&D, Pathfinder, Star Wars WEG 2nd Edition, Ars Magica, Werewolf the Apocalypse, Vampire the Masquerade, Star Trek RPGs (FASA and Last Unicorn), Twilight 2000, many, many others including even the Aliens RPG. I've purchased every FFG Star Wars RPG book out so far and had to relegate them to a desk shelf where there's no room to stack them on their sides, they have to rest on top of one another. With the most recent publications that area is now out of space so I keep the EotE core rulebook and Suns of Fortune permanently in my game bag or on the desk/bed wherever I'm writing.

So yes, as sick as it sounds, it's come to the point where I will be going out to Walmart to buy a fourth bookshelf. I already have an open place picked out on the living room wall next to the cat tree that needs something in it since the ex-wife left (not over gaming, long story). That empty real estate is about to belong permanently to FFG Star Wars along with my assorted boxed sets from other systems what are now sitting on top of bookshelves (ever hear of the Last Starfighter boxed set? Yep, I got that too.).

Dear FFG -

With the release of Desperate Allies, my gaming book bookshelf has no more room on it. I physically cannot put more material on it. So now i have to go and get a new shelf.

Thank you very much.

fixed that for you.

My solution to this problem has been to clear away older PC games that I don't play anymore, thereby freeing up space on a shelf for more sweet, delicious FFG books.

Mmmmmm... books... *drool*

I'm both! Dice are an issue but I use the ipad app and someone reads the results. Other than that, I don't want to threadjack (again!) and I don't know what you're thinking of so I can't say what you're not.

I seem to recall that there are Optical Character Recognition apps/devices out there that can be used on printed material. Have you tried any of those? Has anything like that worked for you?

We had trouble because of the shiny pages and all the colors. We could scan and get images but OCR wouldn't work. Since the pdf's do exist, the bigger problem was probably in the skills department.

I protested. Marched around in front of FFG's offices with signs and everything. Learned Braille signs are not the best way to get the message out... Also learned not to trust my brother to take me to a protest. Pretty sure FFG's office isn't a pizzeria.

Yeah. . . but you got lunch out of the deal, right? That's not a bad trade off.

My three existing bookshelves are filled with legions of RPG books from 2nd Edition through 3rd Edition D&D, Pathfinder, Star Wars WEG 2nd Edition, Ars Magica, Werewolf the Apocalypse, Vampire the Masquerade, Star Trek RPGs (FASA and Last Unicorn), Twilight 2000, many, many others including even the Aliens RPG. I've purchased every FFG Star Wars RPG book out so far and had to relegate them to a desk shelf where there's no room to stack them on their sides, they have to rest on top of one another. With the most recent publications that area is now out of space so I keep the EotE core rulebook and Suns of Fortune permanently in my game bag or on the desk/bed wherever I'm writing.

So yes, as sick as it sounds, it's come to the point where I will be going out to Walmart to buy a fourth bookshelf. I already have an open place picked out on the living room wall next to the cat tree that needs something in it since the ex-wife left (not over gaming, long story). That empty real estate is about to belong permanently to FFG Star Wars along with my assorted boxed sets from other systems what are now sitting on top of bookshelves (ever hear of the Last Starfighter boxed set? Yep, I got that too.).

I would not be putting up shelves in an area where the cat plays. ..

it would most likely be the end of the cat if my books had scratches, bites, piss, etc.

DRM = JUST NO! !

I don't buy products that have drm. I refuse to support drm and the company's that use it.

As my FFG Wars collection slowly grows my old WEG books have been slowly making the pilgrimage into the basement. I'm still good.

Stretch out your ceilings...

Even if I never played the game, they're just so darned pretty that I'd have to buy them all!

I don't really store mine anywhere. They're either sitting on the dining room table from the last session, upstairs awaiting the next session, or stuffed in a carry-on roller case for a convention. My stack is starting to get impressively large, however.

Ogg, I vaguely remember you mentioning you are in the SF Bay Area (East-ish)... Do you run games at local conventions? I was signed up to run a session at KublaCon this year but had to cancel last minute because of a work deadline conflict. I've only ever GM'd this and would love to get a chance to play, even if it was a convention one-shot.

On topic, I'm still eagerly awaiting the Bounty Hunter and Technician career books for Edge....even though the cubby in the shelf I store my FFG SW book collection in is nearing max capacity now as well. I'm really hoping for some more region books like Lords of Nal Hutta, Suns of Fortune, and the new Strongholds book that is coming for AoR... and maybe a couple more published adventures themed for 'Edge.' The splat books for AoR and F&D interest me slightly less, I've never been all that jedi obsessed, and prefer the notion that they are still very much all but extinct as this point, and the 'Wild-West in Space' theme really speaks to me more that the direct and focused 'galactic civil war' soldiers...but still, I will likely grab everything for the completeness and max variety....though having been following Star Wars: Rebels, a campaign set 10 years BBY sounds likeit would be a lot of fun too!

For what it's worth, Bart, my group and I (The Z-Team) run one or more FFG Star Wars games at Dundracon every year.

Books are the best.

I have a couple PDFs floating around somewhere, but I never look at them. Staring at a screen gets hard on the eyes and you have to have plenty of juice to keep the screen lit. Books don't have these problems: I can sit in a hammock all day reading a book without straining my eyes or the book magically shutting itself and refusing to re-open until after I've plugged it into a wall.

I have a couple PDFs floating around somewhere, but I never look at them. Staring at a screen gets hard on the eyes and you have to have plenty of juice to keep the screen lit. Books don't have these problems: I can sit in a hammock all day reading a book without straining my eyes or the book magically shutting itself and refusing to re-open until after I've plugged it into a wall.

For those of us who have some sort of functional eyesight, I would agree that books are best for reading material.

However, for reference material, especially searching, electronic forms can be extremely useful.

But for those of us who don’t have functional eyesight, or for whom it doesn’t work well enough, electronic forms may be our only feasible option.

I have a couple PDFs floating around somewhere, but I never look at them. Staring at a screen gets hard on the eyes and you have to have plenty of juice to keep the screen lit. Books don't have these problems: I can sit in a hammock all day reading a book without straining my eyes or the book magically shutting itself and refusing to re-open until after I've plugged it into a wall.

For those of us who have some sort of functional eyesight, I would agree that books are best for reading material.However, for reference material, especially searching, electronic forms can be extremely useful.But for those of us who don’t have functional eyesight, or for whom it doesn’t work well enough, electronic forms may be our only feasible option.

A physical book could be feasible if it was a Braille book... but you're not sitting in a hammock with one of those. I can't imagine what a huge monstrosity the Braille EotE crb would be!

I'm not fully blind, but I meet the legal requirements. I love holding the physical books, but they can get pretty tough for me to read. I often have a magnifier close by. I like PDF's because I can zoom in and make things nice and large. I've got all my Pathfinder books on an iPad for ease of reading. It's probably my biggest complaint about FFG Star Wars books.

. I've purchased every FFG Star Wars RPG book out so far .....

SO JEALOUS!!!! *turns to the darkside*

I'm getting ready to sell my entire Edge collection if anyone needs MOAR BOOKS.

I'm getting ready to sell my entire Edge collection if anyone needs MOAR BOOKS.

How much we talking?

I have a couple PDFs floating around somewhere, but I never look at them. Staring at a screen gets hard on the eyes and you have to have plenty of juice to keep the screen lit. Books don't have these problems: I can sit in a hammock all day reading a book without straining my eyes or the book magically shutting itself and refusing to re-open until after I've plugged it into a wall.

For those of us who have some sort of functional eyesight, I would agree that books are best for reading material.However, for reference material, especially searching, electronic forms can be extremely useful.But for those of us who don’t have functional eyesight, or for whom it doesn’t work well enough, electronic forms may be our only feasible option.

A physical book could be feasible if it was a Braille book... but you're not sitting in a hammock with one of those. I can't imagine what a huge monstrosity the Braille EotE crb would be!

I wasn't suggesting that there shouldn't be .pdfs, just that I prefer books and why I prefer books.

I have a couple PDFs floating around somewhere, but I never look at them. Staring at a screen gets hard on the eyes and you have to have plenty of juice to keep the screen lit. Books don't have these problems: I can sit in a hammock all day reading a book without straining my eyes or the book magically shutting itself and refusing to re-open until after I've plugged it into a wall.

For those of us who have some sort of functional eyesight, I would agree that books are best for reading material.However, for reference material, especially searching, electronic forms can be extremely useful.But for those of us who don’t have functional eyesight, or for whom it doesn’t work well enough, electronic forms may be our only feasible option.

A physical book could be feasible if it was a Braille book... but you're not sitting in a hammock with one of those. I can't imagine what a huge monstrosity the Braille EotE crb would be!

I wasn't suggesting that there shouldn't be .pdfs, just that I prefer books and why I prefer books.

That is one thing I loved from Pathfinder. Physical book and PDF. I had both of many and would do the same for FFG's RPG books. For core books, I always want them at the table. For things that are more for flavor and the GM, I start with the PDF and if it is needed at the table often, get the book. Still have a lot of these to buy... in the middle of my X-Wing addiction... maybe one day I'll get caught up...

A physical book could be feasible if it was a Braille book... but you're not sitting in a hammock with one of those. I can't imagine what a huge monstrosity the Braille EotE crb would be!

Whats the text vs braille page ratio? Is it pretty 1-1? Lets say a 200 page book of alphanumeric characters - would be a higher page count or lower? You gain some space because you don't have to worry about interior artwork, but I cant imagine that its a more efficient form of writing.

I would imagine the paper is a much heavier gauge.