Honestly... I think it's insanely over the top. Was excited, not I'm dreading it's release. Just the thought of having three twelve health fatties with 180 arcs, stops, and three fire power makes me cringe. One agility, whoop. I still have 13 points left to spend on a z, or a pile of upgrades. Why isn't it costed at 33 points? Legitimate question. This is dumb. I'm one foot half way out the door on this. I've about had it. Thanks for reading.

wait what? I wouldn't cry doom over the YV of all things

it's costed 29 instead of 33 because the firespray kicks its ass in every single capacity apart from total health and crew slots (though not sure how the arc placement will affect how you fly the thing)

This just became one of the best ships in the game. Almost too powerful in my opinion. There really is no reason why at least one yv666 shouldn't be in every scum squad. They really should have given Boba Fett a better ability when they had he chance.

Bosk -Mangler Cannon, Marksman.

Xizor - Title, FCS

Z95 x2

Or trade Marksman for calculation and give Xizor autothrusters.

Three yv666 all loaded with tacticians doesn't sound fun to play against.

why?

maybe I play too many B-wings, but this 12 health and 1 agility I see is chump change. B-wings go down burning pretty quickly in this current environment, the YV won't be much different (it is, in fact, a larger target that can't roll)

as for tact spam, we've had that already before in Panic Attack and scum don't even get R3-A2 (easily the most flexible stress inducer in the game)

the YV's going to be good, but it's really not going to merit this overreaction. It's coming out the box with counter-play options (**** thing can't k-turn, and it can't be effectively fat without damage mitigation)

Why would you give him both marksmanship and a mangler? Seems like spending points for overkill.

You are right its is over kill. I guess I'm too excited.

What to do with those three points then?

Why would you give him both marksmanship and a mangler? Seems like spending points for overkill.

You are right its is over kill. I guess I'm too excited.

What to do with those three points then?

Predator?

Two of these (fully loaded up) with Wingman EPT and the ultimate Fortress will be created.

Constant zero maneuvers.

Two of these (fully loaded up) with Wingman EPT and the ultimate Fortress will be created.

Constant zero maneuvers.

Bossk is the only one with an EPT

Oh my. This is the Scum ship we've been looking for.

I feel like a Trandoshan in a pet store.

So...what is better for Bossk, marksmanship or mangler cannon?

So...what is better for Bossk, marksmanship or mangler cannon?

I'd go for both and skip the title.

It seems that Bossk cannot save his elite training to the Z, so the Pub is pretty much worthless in his hands.

The title is better with Latts Razzi then.

I'd go for both and skip the title.

It seems that Bossk cannot save his elite training to the Z, so the Pub is pretty much worthless in his hands.

The title is better with Latts Razzi then.

Where do you get that from? I'm seeing:

"Moreover, your pilot retains his or her pilot skill and unique pilot ability while flying the Nashtah Pup, meaning there's always a chance for Bossk to rip through enemy shields with his Z-95"

So Bossk in the Pup could still use Calculation, or Marksmanship, or Push the Limit, or whatever you gave him...

I'd go for both and skip the title.

It seems that Bossk cannot save his elite training to the Z, so the Pub is pretty much worthless in his hands.

The title is better with Latts Razzi then.

Where do you get that from? I'm seeing:

"Moreover, your pilot retains his or her pilot skill and unique pilot ability while flying the Nashtah Pup, meaning there's always a chance for Bossk to rip through enemy shields with his Z-95"

So Bossk in the Pup could still use Calculation, or Marksmanship, or Push the Limit, or whatever you gave him...

thats incorrect you just keep the pilotskill of 7 and his unique pilot ability which is the crit into 2 hits conversion not the EPT!

I'd go for both and skip the title.

It seems that Bossk cannot save his elite training to the Z, so the Pub is pretty much worthless in his hands.

The title is better with Latts Razzi then.

Where do you get that from? I'm seeing:

"Moreover, your pilot retains his or her pilot skill and unique pilot ability while flying the Nashtah Pup, meaning there's always a chance for Bossk to rip through enemy shields with his Z-95"

So Bossk in the Pup could still use Calculation, or Marksmanship, or Push the Limit, or whatever you gave him...

I would really like that if it was the case. But the unique pilot ability is the printed text on the pilot card. The elite training upgrade card is not the unique pilot ability.

Yes, it just don't make any sense. Because this is basically a pilot upgrade, and not a ship upgrade.

I would really like that if it was the case. But the unique pilot ability is the printed text on the pilot card. The elite training upgrade card is not the unique pilot ability.

Aha. For some reason I read pilot skill as pilot talent (probably due to overenthusiasm). My mistake.

So...what is better for Bossk, marksmanship or mangler cannon?

I'd go for both and skip the title.

It seems that Bossk cannot save his elite training to the Z, so the Pub is pretty much worthless in his hands.

The title is better with Latts Razzi then.

It's not entirely worthless but I do agree that Latts Razzi is the better choice.

Are we missing a bit of cardboard though? Seems like the Pup will need a ship insert for each pilot and only the Bossk is visible. Four pilots need two bits of cardboard eh.

If the Pup copies the skill and ability of the pilot with the Hound's Tooth title, I don't see why you'd need anything but a Pup tile with the Z-95 stats on it. A tile for each pilot seems excessive when you'd still have the pilot card for reference.

So...what is better for Bossk, marksmanship or mangler cannon?

I'd go for both and skip the title.

It seems that Bossk cannot save his elite training to the Z, so the Pub is pretty much worthless in his hands.

The title is better with Latts Razzi then.

It's not entirely worthless but I do agree that Latts Razzi is the better choice.

Bossk in a Z is just like a naked Maarek without ATC.

You need to generate a crit and you need to hit with it.

Red stop like the lambda and that Bossk crew card... dang.

Like Bossk crew is worded, it even works when you are stressed. - You get a stress if you are not stressed and you dont get one if you are stressed - Then you get a focus and TL and you may shoot with your gunner.

So pull the red stop and use it right away.

I'm not sure if I'm reading this wrong, but it clearly states

If you are not stressed

MUST Take a stress

Gain focus and target lock

Based off that wording I don't think Bossk can be used while stressed

Interesting tid bit. I thought of this morning. If your ship is busted up with a bunch of crits, and among them you have injured pilot, blinded pilot, stunned pilot. Then get destroyed before you shoot. The pup will come out with the pilot completely healed of all his ailments and get to shoot again. If I'm reading that right anyway. That's one hell of a bacta infusion, and fast too.

Red stop like the lambda and that Bossk crew card... dang.

Like Bossk crew is worded, it even works when you are stressed. - You get a stress if you are not stressed and you dont get one if you are stressed - Then you get a focus and TL and you may shoot with your gunner.

So pull the red stop and use it right away.

I'm not sure if I'm reading this wrong, but it clearly states

If you are not stressed

MUST Take a stress

Gain focus and target lock

Based off that wording I don't think Bossk can be used while stressed

Red stop like the lambda and that Bossk crew card... dang.

Like Bossk crew is worded, it even works when you are stressed. - You get a stress if you are not stressed and you dont get one if you are stressed - Then you get a focus and TL and you may shoot with your gunner.

So pull the red stop and use it right away.

I'm not sure if I'm reading this wrong, but it clearly states

If you are not stressed

MUST Take a stress

Gain focus and target lock

Based off that wording I don't think Bossk can be used while stressed

I read the opposite. This ship must be stressed to receive the focus and TL. If it isn't already stressed, make it so.

Ah think that's the problem, receiving the stress is coupled with receiving the TL and focus, so if you don't receive the stress, you don't receive the tokens

Guys, the wording follows the same precedence as R7-T1:

And the FAQ for R7-T1 says:

If a ship equipped with R7-T1 is at Range 1–2 and inside the firing arc of an enemy ship, the following sequence occurs: the ship equipped with R7-T1 may acquire a target lock on the enemy ship. Then, the ship equipped with R7-T1 may perform a free boost action, even if it did not acquire a target lock on the enemy ship.

So, in this case with Bossk, if you do not have a stress token, you must take a stress token. Then, you must take a focus and TL the defender.

I would really like that if it was the case. But the unique pilot ability is the printed text on the pilot card. The elite training upgrade card is not the unique pilot ability.

Aha. For some reason I read pilot skill as pilot talent (probably due to overenthusiasm). My mistake.

his elite ability to pilot that monster of a ship does not translate well to flying the little gnat of a craft he keeps in the back

Interesting tid bit. I thought of this morning. If your ship is busted up with a bunch of crits, and among them you have injured pilot, blinded pilot, stunned pilot. Then get destroyed before you shoot. The pup will come out with the pilot completely healed of all his ailments and get to shoot again. If I'm reading that right anyway. That's one hell of a bacta infusion, and fast too.

Probably glit-biting.

Red stop like the lambda and that Bossk crew card... dang.

Like Bossk crew is worded, it even works when you are stressed. - You get a stress if you are not stressed and you dont get one if you are stressed - Then you get a focus and TL and you may shoot with your gunner.

So pull the red stop and use it right away.

I'm not sure if I'm reading this wrong, but it clearly states

If you are not stressed

MUST Take a stress

Gain focus and target lock

Based off that wording I don't think Bossk can be used while stressed

I read the opposite. This ship must be stressed to receive the focus and TL. If it isn't already stressed, make it so.

Ah think that's the problem, receiving the stress is coupled with receiving the TL and focus, so if you don't receive the stress, you don't receive the tokens

So...what is better for Bossk, marksmanship or mangler cannon?

I'd go for both and skip the title.

It seems that Bossk cannot save his elite training to the Z, so the Pub is pretty much worthless in his hands.

The title is better with Latts Razzi then.

It's not entirely worthless but I do agree that Latts Razzi is the better choice.

Bossk in a Z is just like a naked Maarek without ATC.

You need to generate a crit and you need to hit with it.

While its possible other YV pilots could make better use of the Pup title than Bossk, I wouldn't rule out using it on him right away. One way to look at the title is to say "Buy 2 hull upgrades, get 2 shield upgrades for free. And if you order in the next 10 minutes, we'll throw in these 2 laser cannons as an added bonus."

What it will boil down to is how the title gets scored for tournament play. If you have to destroy the Pup to get full MoV points, that means you need to do 12+ damage to take out the YV, then you have to do 4 more to the Pup.

Bossk, Title, VI 42

2X Trandoshen BH 29

100pts.

Thats 40 hit points to chew through with 180 degree arcs shooting back at you.

(Sorry for back to back post)

I don't think the Firespray beats it in any respect except for the action bar and a second agility. That arc with that dial is unreal. Consider, the Firespray has total fire arc of about 176°. The Tooth has a full 180°. Sure four degrees isn't much on paper but in play it can be a whole lot. Also Firespray can only fire its missile (or torpedo) in its forward 88°arc while the Tooth has that whole forward area shaded as primary. Just by being the ship it is it picks up a portion of Nera Dantels ability for free if you want to go that route. In a three-of list you could have them all equipped with engine upgrades too so moving that arc where you want it shouldn't be much of a problem either. In fact after a three turn and a boost you can shoot at a target that ended up behind you if you activate after them I think. Would have to set it up and look.

+4° firing arc

+92° missile arc

+2 shields

+3-turn

-Evade action

-1 agility

-Koigran

(Incomplete)

And it's four points... cheaper?