Rather than rage more about delays, let's discuss what interesting possibilities it opens, like 4 accuracy corrector tempests and backstabber for example. Is it crazy to think of that as the imperial bbbbz? 2 auto hits aren't statically far from 3 focused dice, and with 3 agility, an arguably better dial, and the ability to take non focus actions without losing power, it seems like it could be a legit build.
When the raider hits, will imperial bbbbz be possible?
I don't know about an Imperial version of bbbbz, but i am excited. i always enjoyed fielding TIE Advanced. Lack of offense kinda kept it on the backburner. With upcoming upgrades, i will certainly be putting Advanced in somewhere.
If accuracy corrector B's work then this really should work as well. I would probably go Dark Curse over Backstabber.
The main difference will be that they will live at range 2, while B's really enjoy range 1.
If accuracy corrector B's work then this really should work as well. I would probably go Dark Curse over Backstabber.
The main difference will be that they will live at range 2, while B's really enjoy range 1.
Yes, Dark Curse. Imagine trying to kill 4 Tempests with Accuracy Corrector taking the evade action every turn, and freaking Dark Curse!
Yeah, that's a really good point, that could absolutely be roughly as viable as BBBBZ. It actually has a slightly higher straight up jousting value, which is the primary metric of a swarm build. Ironically the B-wing dial is probably a hair better. I do like Dark Curse in this instance over Backstabber, to match the tankiness of the rest of your ships.
P.S. I think I'll add this to my list of "Starter List Guide" squads, thanks for the idea!
Edited by MajorJugglerOther than Dark Curse are there any Black Squads with an EPT that could be interesting? Draw Their Fire was the only other option I could think of that seems reasonably good but I think Dark Curse is a better option. You'd fly him just behind the x1s I guess.
A single TIE Bomber could also slot in there, not as frustrating to hit but more hull.
Edited by IxidorWhat about a Black Squadron with Intimidation to be a dangerous blocker?
Other than Dark Curse are there any Black Squads with an EPT that could be interesting? Draw Their Fire was the only other option I could think of that seems reasonably good but I think Dark Curse is a better option. You'd fly him just behind the x1s I guess.
A single TIE Bomber could also slot in there, not as frustrating to hit but more hull.
A Tie Bomber would even share the same PS value, which is also on an advantage.
You could also go for a Blacky with Lone Wolf. Or even Intimidation.
What if you put one of those 1 point TIE only *mods on the tempests?
*if it is a mod
You could also go 4x Avenger Squadron, 4x Autothrusters, and an Academy. *shrugs*
Other than Dark Curse are there any Black Squads with an EPT that could be interesting? Draw Their Fire was the only other option I could think of that seems reasonably good but I think Dark Curse is a better option. You'd fly him just behind the x1s I guess.
A single TIE Bomber could also slot in there, not as frustrating to hit but more hull.
A Tie Bomber would even share the same PS value, which is also on an advantage.
You could also go for a Blacky with Lone Wolf. Or even Intimidation.
BSP with Intimidation is actually a pretty good idea. Block the PWT and burn it down. Can you imagine poor Han just taking 8 dice without being able to do anything about it?
Edited by Jo JoI think the beauty of the Dark Tempest build is that they're all tanky and action independent, while hitting as hard usually as focused 3 dice (2.25 hits vs. 2) and harder than 3 unfocused dice (1.5 hits vs. 2).
There's definitely also room for the tie upgrade and then pairing them with a raw academy, which is nice, or just run the base Tempest block with whatever 16 point filler you want, which lends a nice bit of customization that bbbbz can't afford.
Could also have 3 Tempest with a Doomshuttle and one Academy Pilot.
Other than Dark Curse are there any Black Squads with an EPT that could be interesting? Draw Their Fire was the only other option I could think of that seems reasonably good but I think Dark Curse is a better option. You'd fly him just behind the x1s I guess.
A single TIE Bomber could also slot in there, not as frustrating to hit but more hull.
A Tie Bomber would even share the same PS value, which is also on an advantage.
You could also go for a Blacky with Lone Wolf. Or even Intimidation.
My concern would be how many raider$ would I have to buy to make $uch a $warm.
My concern would be how many raider$ would I have to buy to make $uch a $warm.
1 comes with 4 titles.
My concern would be how many raider$ would I have to buy to make $uch a $warm.
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My concern would be how many raider$ would I have to buy to make $uch a $warm.
1 comes with 4 titles.
Sweet.
That makes it doable as far as I am concerned.
4 Tempest + Title + AC + TIE upgrade
1 Academy
would be the Imperial BBBBZ
4 Tempest + Title + AC + TIE upgrade
1 Academy
would be the Imperial BBBBZ
It's true, though if the tie upgrade ends up not being worth it for the list I think you can gain a lot of value and variation with those 4 points as 16 has a good number of options for the empire.
Ooh BSP with Intimidation. That sounds glorious. And unlike B's you won't be flying a matchup where nearly all hits go through.
Edited by TasteTheRainbow
4 Tempest + Title + AC + TIE upgrade
1 Academy
would be the Imperial BBBBZ
It's true, though if the tie upgrade ends up not being worth it for the list I think you can gain a lot of value and variation with those 4 points as 16 has a good number of options for the empire.
It will be helpful to get rid of stress. Be more unpredictable after K-Turning. You want to have the focus for defense.
You can even add 4 x Proton Rockets instead of the Tie.
Something like this will be absolutely what I am looking forward to.
Edited by TheRealStarkiller
4 Tempest + Title + AC + TIE upgrade
1 Academy
would be the Imperial BBBBZ
It's true, though if the tie upgrade ends up not being worth it for the list I think you can gain a lot of value and variation with those 4 points as 16 has a good number of options for the empire.
It will be helpful to get rid of stress. Be more unpredictable after K-Turning. You want to have the focus for defense.
You can even add 4 x Proton Rockets instead of the Tie.
Something like this will be absolutely what I am looking forward to.
did I miss something? What Tie upgrade?
Twin Ion Engine Upgrade <- Wave VII
Twin Ion Engine Upgrade <- Wave VII
okay, after a quick google search i have no idea what it does... what does it do?
Rather than rage more about delays, let's discuss what interesting possibilities it opens, like 4 accuracy corrector tempests and backstabber for example. Is it crazy to think of that as the imperial bbbbz? 2 auto hits aren't statically far from 3 focused dice, and with 3 agility, an arguably better dial, and the ability to take non focus actions without losing power, it seems like it could be a legit build.