I really don't see how the Eta2 is a 2 Attack ship. Definitely a 3 attack.

The Aethersprite is a 2 attack ship for sure, though, unless you've got the breakaway combat mode panels.

Eta-2 has two lasers plus 2 ion cannons. 2 attack is appropriate, along with the cannon upgrade to give 4 attack or the ions. Delta-7 was definately a 2 attack ship, it was made in a time of relative peace and as a fast currier for Jedi, not a front line combat ship or to be deployed in numbers.

Eta-2 has two lasers plus 2 ion cannons. 2 attack is appropriate, along with the cannon upgrade to give 4 attack or the ions. Delta-7 was definitely a 2 attack ship, it was made in a time of relative peace and as a fast currier for Jedi, not a front line combat ship or to be deployed in numbers.

I'm not convinced it should be a cannon slot. It really feels like they never used these for disabling ships in its one appearance in the movies or in any episode of TCW. Almost like whoever decided they have ion cannons didn't really get what ion is used for in the rest of the world. It also makes the M3A look even worse, IMHO, if this ship gets a cannon upgrade.

There may have been some other stories where they actually used the ion for ion. I see wookiepedia also mentions a special mission profile where they dropped the cannons for missiles (but that's Battlefront, so not sure if we should care).

Never saw B-wings fire a shot in ROTJ. No lasers, no ion, no torps. Funny, it gets all kinds of upgrades.

It was overall slower then the Fighter, but had much faster acceleration

What? That doesn't make sense.

It means it has a lower top speed, but changes speeds more quickly.

Never saw B-wings fire a shot in ROTJ. No lasers, no ion, no torps. Funny, it gets all kinds of upgrades.

Fair point but we do see it shooting plenty in other aspects of Star Wars, like X-Wing, TIE Fighter series

Well of course. the b has had 3 decades to show off in the EU/legends. The Eta-2 has t had as much time, and it seems the media it is portrayed in can't figure out what armament it does have, despite clear descriptions in certain reference materials.

Scum V-wing, basically so you can use salvaged astromechs on somthing that's not a Y-wing, and get a ship that's not ugly as crap.

OK, I know I'm a page late, but I just have to point out that adding a scum V-wing would only solve one of those problems...

It's just ugly, but intentionally ugly is not necessarily bad, especially for scum.

Well of course. the b has had 3 decades to show off in the EU/legends. The Eta-2 has t had as much time, and it seems the media it is portrayed in can't figure out what armament it does have, despite clear descriptions in certain reference materials.

Canonical sources dispute them being ion cannons, at least on the versions of Eta-2 seen in those sources, such as Revenge of the Sith, where Anakin's shows all four cannons firing lasers and all TCW episodes that feature the craft. It's possible they modified their fighters because they felt no need to have ion cannons on there fighters.

I guess the most practical way to go about it would be to make it a cannon slot, then. It feels wrong to me but it covers the most sources (if including non-canonical ones, which XWTMG certainly does).

Well of course. the b has had 3 decades to show off in the EU/legends. The Eta-2 has t had as much time, and it seems the media it is portrayed in can't figure out what armament it does have, despite clear descriptions in certain reference materials.

Canonical sources dispute them being ion cannons, at least on the versions of Eta-2 seen in those sources, such as Revenge of the Sith, where Anakin's shows all four cannons firing lasers and all TCW episodes that feature the craft. It's possible they modified their fighters because they felt no need to have ion cannons on there fighters.

I guess the most practical way to go about it would be to make it a cannon slot, then. It feels wrong to me but it covers the most sources (if including non-canonical ones, which XWTMG certainly does).

3 attack works too I guess. Either way we will never see either one of these done by FFG. The Gunboat has more of a chance, and we really won't see that one.

Well of course. the b has had 3 decades to show off in the EU/legends. The Eta-2 has t had as much time, and it seems the media it is portrayed in can't figure out what armament it does have, despite clear descriptions in certain reference materials.

Canonical sources dispute them being ion cannons, at least on the versions of Eta-2 seen in those sources, such as Revenge of the Sith, where Anakin's shows all four cannons firing lasers and all TCW episodes that feature the craft. It's possible they modified their fighters because they felt no need to have ion cannons on there fighters.

I guess the most practical way to go about it would be to make it a cannon slot, then. It feels wrong to me but it covers the most sources (if including non-canonical ones, which XWTMG certainly does).

3 attack works too I guess. Either way we will never see either one of these done by FFG. The Gunboat has more of a chance, and we really won't see that one.

Don't give up hope! Hopefully they'll show up in the same wave!

Kidding. I don't see what the problem with the Gunboat would be but it does seem more and more unlikely with each wave.

Appearantly FFG has the same philosophy some of the forum goers have, that Imperial starfighters should be TIE only. It's just a shame that anyone who payed the X-wing series on PC will tell you the Gunboat is as iconic as any starfighter from the OT. Same for the Troop Transport (hey, a large ship without a turret, it could work!)

It was overall slower then the Fighter, but had much faster acceleration

What? That doesn't make sense.

Because SW doesn't make sense. Its "top speed" is slower than a tie fighter, but it accelerates much faster.

If that still doesn't make sense, It hits top speed faster than the Tie, but the Tie has a higher top speed.

It was overall slower then the Fighter, but had much faster acceleration

What? That doesn't make sense.

Because SW doesn't make sense. Its "top speed" is slower than a tie fighter, but it accelerates much faster.

If that still doesn't make sense, It hits top speed faster than the Tie, but the Tie has a higher top speed.

I'm not sure how it can't make sense. We have vehicles in the real world that work exactly like this. Faster acceleration, lower top speed.

It was overall slower then the Fighter, but had much faster acceleration

What? That doesn't make sense.

Because SW doesn't make sense. Its "top speed" is slower than a tie fighter, but it accelerates much faster.

If that still doesn't make sense, It hits top speed faster than the Tie, but the Tie has a higher top speed.

I'm not sure how can't make sense. We have vehicles in the real world that work exactly like this. Faster acceleration, lower top speed.

It doesn't make sense, because "technically speaking", you can't have a top speed in space.

It was overall slower then the Fighter, but had much faster acceleration

What? That doesn't make sense.

Because SW doesn't make sense. Its "top speed" is slower than a tie fighter, but it accelerates much faster.

If that still doesn't make sense, It hits top speed faster than the Tie, but the Tie has a higher top speed.

I'm not sure how can't make sense. We have vehicles in the real world that work exactly like this. Faster acceleration, lower top speed.

It doesn't make sense, because "technically speaking", you can't have a top speed in space.

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Yeah, you got me there. Unless you're talking atmosphere. Or maybe velo... nope.

It was overall slower then the Fighter, but had much faster acceleration

What? That doesn't make sense.

Because SW doesn't make sense. Its "top speed" is slower than a tie fighter, but it accelerates much faster.If that still doesn't make sense, It hits top speed faster than the Tie, but the Tie has a higher top speed.

I'm not sure how can't make sense. We have vehicles in the real world that work exactly like this. Faster acceleration, lower top speed.

It doesn't make sense, because "technically speaking", you can't have a top speed in space.

Since when did physics have anything to do with Star Wars?

There would be a top acceleration as well as an effective relative speed during an encounter that would be optimal for engaging the enemy.

If you want more realism, tho, all space fleets would have tiny droid fighters covered in thrusters and turrets, and would fly and fire in any direction at incredible accelerations. And capital ships would ignore them except in large numbers. Missiles, torpedoes and bombs would more likely be carried by kamikaze droid bombers or be large, fast warheads launched by capital ships.

And orbital seiges would consist of constant bombardment of asteroids from the local system until the global particle shielding is overcome.

But this is Star Wars. We wants peoples in pointy space ships dogfighting in space like airplanes! Cause it's awesome!

Oh and I forgot to mention delta v and specific impulse, but I don't think anyone wants a lesson in rocket science.

But this is Star Wars. We wants peoples in pointy space ships dogfighting in space like airplanes! Cause it's awesome!

Yeah, we all need to remember this a bit more. The clawcraft has some pretty points.

And the Gunboat has points going in five different directions!

Some Pilots my Players ran up against in a campaign... fun design space:

"Rebel" ETA2:

Annie Skywalker, PS5- Equip R2-D2 for free (no EPT)

General Anakin Skywalker PS7- If you would collide with a friendly ship or obstacle you may still take actions and ignore that ship or obstacle. If you would collide with a hostile ship that ship gains a stress token and you gain a focus token.

Yoda, PS 8- When defending, all ships provide obstructions. When Attacking, your attacks do ignore obstruction. (EPT)

General Kenobi, PS7- At the beginning of the combat phase, if there is a friendly ship still on the board, gain a focus token. If there are no friendly ships on the board, gain a free action. (EPT)

Imperial ETA2:

Anakin Skywalker, Sith Apprentice, PS7- Before you reveal your dial you may choose to attack instead. If you do so, you gain a focus token and skip your action phase. When you would attack you may reveal your dial. (EPT)

Lord Vader, Sith Lord, PS8- Once per round you may change any one die result. (EPT)

Fallen Jedi, PS 6- When you make an attack that hits you gain a focus token. When you are defending, if you roll no evades you gain an evade token.(no EPT)

They don't have point costs but they would make for some fun foes to try to hunt.

That's what doesn't work though. Because Anakin and General Kenobi aren't Rebels.

In fact, they're part of their era's equivalent of the Empire.

It doesn't make sense, because "technically speaking", you can't have a top speed in space.

You can in Star Wars.

Works just fine for me. They are the pilots that flew the ship. They make great adversaries.

Quotation marks added...

All this talk of realism... if SW was realistic, there wouldnt even be fighters, they simply don't hold enough fuel.

It was overall slower then the Fighter, but had much faster acceleration

What? That doesn't make sense.

Because SW doesn't make sense. Its "top speed" is slower than a tie fighter, but it accelerates much faster.If that still doesn't make sense, It hits top speed faster than the Tie, but the Tie has a higher top speed.

I'm not sure how can't make sense. We have vehicles in the real world that work exactly like this. Faster acceleration, lower top speed.

It doesn't make sense, because "technically speaking", you can't have a top speed in space.

Since when did physics have anything to do with Star Wars?

There would be a top acceleration as well as an effective relative speed during an encounter that would be optimal for engaging the enemy.

If you want more realism, tho, all space fleets would have tiny droid fighters covered in thrusters and turrets, and would fly and fire in any direction at incredible accelerations. And capital ships would ignore them except in large numbers. Missiles, torpedoes and bombs would more likely be carried by kamikaze droid bombers or be large, fast warheads launched by capital ships.

And orbital seiges would consist of constant bombardment of asteroids from the local system until the global particle shielding is overcome.

But this is Star Wars. We wants peoples in pointy space ships dogfighting in space like airplanes! Cause it's awesome!

I never said I wanted realism, I was just pointing out that SW doesn't follow real physics, therefore things that apply (e.g. a top speed), might not make sense in real life (even if you run out of fuel, inertia will cause you to keep accelerating)

Weird... People are complaining about realism instead of Prequals and eras!