Does anyone have the Ultimate Star Wars book?

By MrDodger, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

If so, could you check something for me?

What armaments does the Inquisitor's TIE advanced carry? The Rebels visual guide mentions basic shields, hyperdrive and laser cannons. According to wookieepedia it also carries "20 missile shells".

For some annoying reason the book isn't out in the UK until September.

Ta in advance :)

I dont have the book. But the sources I have found it has two laser cannons. So for the game I would use 2 medium laser cannons linked

it also has a XX-23 S-Thread Tracer launcher

Cheers, but I really need the official stats. I have a couple of sources at the moment, but don't have Ultimate or the other source "Beware the Inquisitor".

The ultimate guide has very little in the way of specifics for that model.

It does say, two powerful laser cannons and a projectile launcher, but nothing more specific.

It also mentions it is just a prototype of Vader's vehicle so if you find the specs for that it should be the same.

The wookiepedia link for the X1 is http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TIE_Advanced_x1

I should be as close to "official" as you will get.

Edited by fatedtodie

Cheers, but I really need the official stats. I have a couple of sources at the moment, but don't have Ultimate or the other source "Beware the Inquisitor".

That book doesn’t have official stats for anything, so far as I can tell. It gives you names for things you didn’t know had them, and some timelines, but not much in the way of “stats” for anything it shows.

Yes it is more an updated encyclopedia of information, but not specific statistics.

I created a misunderstanding when I said the word "stats". I don't mean game stats, I mean in-universe specs.

Wookieepedia states it has 20 missile shells, but the Rebels visual guide (and starwars.com for that matter) mention nothing of the sort. There is the launcher for the XX-23 tracer, but does the ship carry missiles as well?

The ultimate guide has very little in the way of specifics for that model.

It does say, two powerful laser cannons and a projectile launcher, but nothing more specific.

It also mentions it is just a prototype of Vader's vehicle so if you find the specs for that it should be the same.

The wookiepedia link for the X1 is http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TIE_Advanced_x1

I should be as close to "official" as you will get.

That page is the legends version, and is also Vader's TIE X1, not the Inquisitor's V1.

The V1 page http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Inquisitor%27s_TIE_Advanced#cite_note-beware-0 cites "Beware The Inquisitor" book as a source. But as that's a level 2 reader book for children, I'm guessing no-one here has that! :)

Ah well. Thanks for the input folks :)

I think you misunderstand what I typed and what brad typed.

I typed EXACTLY WHAT WAS IN THE BLOODY BOOK.

I then gave you the legends info because that is all there is. That's it. You will not get more because there is not more to get. You can beg, plead, whine, cajole, but in the end there is NO MORE INFO TO GET.

Bah, I hate how even when you give 100% accurate information to answer a question people don't believe it.

I think you misunderstand what I typed and what brad typed.

I typed EXACTLY WHAT WAS IN THE BLOODY BOOK.

Yeah, but sometimes there are misunderstandings. For example, I didn’t realize what you had typed was an exact quote from the book.

If you had posted a picture from the book with that text, or put that information into a quote block, then there would have been no question and I wouldn’t have bothered to post my previous response.

OTOH, I now know about this book and the kind of information it has, and I certainly learned something by doing a bit of research on it.

So, I have to thank you for helping me to gain this additional insight!

I'll quote direct from the book for you.

"Blasting Rebels
The prototype TIE Advanced has two powerful laser cannons for eliminating traitorous ships."

"Compared to a standard TIE fighter, the prototype TIE Advanced... [has] stronger laser cannons...."

Now, I'm sure you watched the Season 2 trailer. Let's take what we know from that, and apply it to this ship as it stands to reason it is still in prototype development even then.

Vader single-handedly eliminated a squadron, then proceeded to sink their battleship in this thing.

At this point, we have to consider that the RAW does not apply to this ship. Massive fire-power with a hell of a punch in a glass-cannon that might not be so fragile as we may be led to believe.

Based on the little info we have, I would recommend treating the laser cannons as (Heavy) with an inherent +2 to their damage output. Further, the TIE Advanced should have a targeting computer built in, offering an inherent Aim to every attack role.

As far as any other stats go, keep in mind that this thing has to be able to be killed. Do not forget that, or your players will find a way to steal it, then you have to deal with the headache of killing it yourself.

I am pretty sure you adding "for eliminating traitorous ships" does not really add to "Two powerful laser cannons". It is of the Empire, even their blaster pistols are for that reason. I am pretty sure they aren't for baking cookies.

I think you misunderstand what I typed and what brad typed.

I typed EXACTLY WHAT WAS IN THE BLOODY BOOK.

I then gave you the legends info because that is all there is. That's it. You will not get more because there is not more to get. You can beg, plead, whine, cajole, but in the end there is NO MORE INFO TO GET.

Bah, I hate how even when you give 100% accurate information to answer a question people don't believe it.

I think you misunderstand what I typed and what brad typed.

I typed EXACTLY WHAT WAS IN THE BLOODY BOOK.

Yeah, but sometimes there are misunderstandings. For example, I didn’t realize what you had typed was an exact quote from the book.

If you had posted a picture from the book with that text, or put that information into a quote block, then there would have been no question and I wouldn’t have bothered to post my previous response.

OTOH, I now know about this book and the kind of information it has, and I certainly learned something by doing a bit of research on it.

So, I have to thank you for helping me to gain this additional insight!

Besides, the question has been answered, excepting reference to the kids book, which is where I'm presuming wookieepedia is getting the missile shells info from, as its clearly not in the Ultimate book.

Edited by MrDodger

Well the book lists the Inquisitor's ship as the prototype for Vader's ship then lists Vader's ship as the X1.

You guys may have been thinking you were referring to the V1, but you were vastly mistaken.

I think the various canon sources may the cause of our crossed wires fated. The Rebels Visual guide refers to it as the V1, as does the canon Wookieepedia page here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Inquisitor's_TIE_Advanced

I know it's the prototype for Vaders Advanced. It's not uncommon (though confusing) for prototypes of various things to have different classifications and reference numbers.

It's also not the first time that different books have stated different info. Makes things tough when we're trying to keep things straight!

Page 294 explicitly states the Inquisitor's ship is an X1 Prototype and a prototype for Vader's ship.

Vader's ship is listed on an X1 on page 303.

Here endeth the lesson.

  • The Star Wars Rebels: The Visual Guide (page 108) refers the ship as the TIE advanced V1. The Ultimate Star Wars book refers to it as prototype TIE advanced X1.
  • It also states that it has a hyperdrive and basic shields.
  • The Inqisitor's TIE Advanced canon entry has nothing about a hyperdrive but the TIE advanced V1 canon entry does mention them in the information text.
  • Although the stats to side on the TIE advanced V1 says it does not have a hyperdrive.
  • The Inquisitor's is equipped with laser cannons while the V1 entry has it with dual turbolasers while calling them out as laser cannons in the text.
  • The biggest difference between the V1 and the X1 is the fact that the V1's wings fold.
  • There are differences between the the TIE advanced X1 and Vader's TIE advanced as well.
  • The TIE advanced is equipped with blaster cannons while Vader's has laser cannons.
  • All have missiles.
  • It seems that a majority of TIE advanced were prototypes for other ships whether they be the exclusive ships of the Inquisitor or Darth Vader or future lines like the Interceptor or Defender or the TIE Avenger.

Personally I'd just use the TIE/IN Interceptor; add a hyperdrive, add shields of 1, drop two laser cannons and add a linked missile launcher.

Edited by mouthymerc

Thanks a million mouthymerc, I do believe we're done here :)

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I don't think that link is working quite right.

I don't think that link is working quite right.

Yeah. Weird.

Wonder if it has something to do with the fact I created this in the data editor?

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