new guy lists

By meldon, in X-Wing Squad Lists

So I am just getting into the game so excuse me if I am using commonly used tricks without knowing they are common :)

The list I have used so far is basic but with the ships I like

Vader with proton rockets and accuracy controller

2 Black squadron Ties

2 Obsidian Interceptors

I think its a good list get to grips with the game because enough ships that can work on their own to play with.

However now i want to get some tougher lists to play with, I really like the sound of echo, in other games I like out manoeuvring my opponents so I have come up with these 2 lists.

“Echo” (41)

TIE Phantom (30), Sensor Jammer (4), Outmaneuver (3), Advanced Cloaking Device (4)
Captain Oicunn (59)
VT-49 Decimator (42), Intimidation (2), Rebel Captive (3), Gunner (5), Darth Vader (3), Engine Upgrade (4)
The main goal with this is to run into ships with the Decimator whilst Echo dodges to the side and potentially reduces their agility by 2, fires and recloaks, rince and repeat.
and then this one
“Echo” (37)
TIE Phantom (30), Outmaneuver (3), Advanced Cloaking Device (4)
Alpha Squadron Pilot (18) x 2
Obsidian Squadron Pilot (13) x 2
This one is nippier with more choices to make mistakes with.
Before anyone say it I know I need to be careful with echo before I lose it off the table, but I think that can be fun to use, but mostly do people think the combo I have gone with is optimal or at least fun to use?
thanks