Why is nobody talking about Kavil?

By Scoundrel, in X-Wing

I don't think anything is wrong with him in all honesty. Just people underestimate Y-wings in general as sluggish direct fire platforms and underestimate what a small turreted ship can do. The turrets in general all generally have a downside that may also affect the mindset: Autocannons have low attack and has range 1, blaster uses your entire turn, Ion is expensive and fairly weak in terms of sheer damage. Just Kavil makes them all better.

It also suffers a simliar pitfall to B-wings. They are not necessarily durable, just reliable in that they generally have to take a fixed amount of damage before they die that doesn't improve with points invested, especially if focus fired but on the flipside it is simply reliable and is unlikely to simply crumble to oppertunistic shooting. thus often why the 18 point Y-wing is preferred because it's the cheapest thing you can get with that robust frame.

That being said I just simply think that Kavil is over shadowed but not necessarily out preformed by Xizor and the Bounty Hunters. I just feel people simply overlook it because it's just a Y-wing that isn't exceptionally durable nor list dominating. Thus one has to be careful with how they use him more so then many other ships since he is very senstive to being blocked (if dps) or lacking power.

That being said, I consider him a fantastic ship and pilot, and by far one of the most impressive of the "starship series". Only Xizor and Guri is more noteable, though they lack the 360 view that he has or the sheer firepower he packs in a 2 range bracket.

Edited by Lordbiscuit

I put blaster R4 and Opportunist pair him with Pablo and he becomes a 5 attack dice ship kills things fast

^ This. It's a great combo. Round it out with two Z95s, and it's great fun.

Kavil with VI, unhinged, autoblaster turret, and EU seems to be somewhat effective

perhaps it's better Ptl, unhiged, EU and blaster turret

or Vi, agromec, and blaster turret. make so when you spend a focus to activated blaster turret you can make a free TL

That's just a more expensive version of the agro and blaster turret combo that stresses yourself. Yeah you can boost but now you have your own stress and nothing to modify your shot. And with the auto turret and EU you can get 3 attack dice with a focus and uncancel-able hits

while i agree with your points on the unhinged version i do find the improved mobility appealing. have only flown the agro though, and I'm pleased with it.

I agree that the mobility is nice having flown both droids I've learned some things for both. The mobility is nice and can throw off weak pilots the agromech gives them better firepower and damage output. It also keeps them from stressing thesmselves before getting double stressed if the situation comes and screws your Kavil. But just to keep this from turning into some dumb argument knowing myself I'd like to say that any way anyone uses him with upgrades pretty much works depending on what's with Kavil in the squad and the type of pilot flying him.

Kavil is great. The reason I see a lot of people might not like him (compared to generics) is that his ability shoehorns him into a niche that is not really demanded right now. I want to love him as the only ept capable y wing out of the box, but btl-a4 generics are killer.

Thanks for helping me clear up my little misconception. Now I just have to try out a Blaster + Agromech equipped Kavil.

I put blaster R4 and Opportunist pair him with Pablo and he becomes a 5 attack dice ship kills things fast

^ This. It's a great combo. Round it out with two Z95s, and it's great fun.

Most of the time i take Guri but next time i will try

Kavil (24)

Opportunist (4)

Blaster Turret (4)

R4 Agromech (2)

Palob Godalhi (20)

Blaster Turret (4)

Moldy Crow (3)

Black Sun Soldier (13)

Black Sun Soldier (13)

Black Sun Soldier (13)

Total: 100

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Because he dies just as easily as a Thug with a Blaster Turret and an Agromech.

It's the same problem you have with expensive B Wings. They die just as easily as a Blue Squadron with Advanced sensors or whatever and their offensive abilities aren't enough to make up for it should your opponent focus him down.

He´s really good. What other 30 Point 4 Dice turret with TL is there in the game with that durability? I started Scum with Palob, but he just dies in the first or second joust. Kavil operates outside the main action yet hits like a truck. As other have mentioned half the trick is to make him look inconspicuous and deploy a meaner looking threat to pull aggro. Translated he´s a 270 degree, 2 range threat zone of three hits a turn. That is nasty and means he can skirt the action lessening the risk of blocking.

At the moment I fly this:

Boba + Expert Handling + Flight Instructor

Kavil + Blaster turret + Agromech

N'Dru Suhlak + Lone Wolf + Cluster Missiles + Glitterstim (proxing in waiting and non tourny, else it´s a Seismic Charge on Boba) (N'Dru is ridiculous. 8 dice with Focus and LW? That´s 7 hits)

Everyone is scared witless by Boba barrelling in and rerolling his attacks and evades left and right. But in reality he´s a pillowfort wanting attention. Thus he get´s a lot of action while the real punchers trail just behind, doing the real smashing.

Kavil is my 2nd favorite pilot overall behind Scum Boba. He's outstanding, hands down. However, you do have to plan carefully.

I got countered big time by running into a Palob today at a tourney. He steals your focus, and your precious Blaster Turret is useless. So that was a problem. I think it's safest to fly with Autoblaster turret and engine upgrade + Unhinged (PtL or VI for EPT), although if you don't run into blocker squads or Palobs, the blaster turret builds are still also legit.