Just looking for some help / advice on how to beat my mate. Both of us are new to the game but he always seems to have to upper hand.
He uses a YT-1300 with Han Solo, Luke, Nien Numb, Title card, Swarm Tactic and Engine Upgrade. A gold Squad Y-Wing and a Rookie X-wing to tmake the numbers up.
I use the Empire and have access to 2 x Tie Fighters, 2 x Tie Interceptors (Imperal Aces) and 1 x Tie Advance
Can any one sugest a sqaud that might be able to take down his ships.
MAKE HIM SWITCH SIDES!!!!!!
Seriously. I don't know what you're using to try to get those Imperials up to match his squadron but "Han Shoots First" is a classic winner even when he's playing a variation. Just be thankful he isn't dropping a could upgrades on that Falcon to add an Ion Turret (or even just R2) to that Y-Wing.
Having a Turret really messes with the normal abilities of your ships. It may be that the only way you'll beat him is to hit him HARD before he gets to take you out. Although it may be tricky to fly here is something you might try:
Vader + Engine Upgrade + Cluster Missile
Jax + Push the Limits + Hull Upgrade + Shield Upgrade (via title)
Saber SP + PtL + Hull
The plan it simply to pound that Falcon to debris as quickly as possible and then outfly the other fighters.
With those options the rebels have the upper hand pretty seriously. Switch lists.
To have a chance with those ships you'd really need upgrade cards (and pilots) that you don't have access to. Han with Gunner has a reasonable chance to pop one of your ships a round (other than the Advanced). If you guys are cool with proxying pilots and upgrade cards you could probably put together a list that could give him a run for his money.
Edited by WWHSDIf you don't mind proxying cards and pilots something like this might be fun:
If you don't mind proxying cards and pilots something like this might be fun:
Soontir Fel (27)Push the Limit (3)Autothrusters (2)Shield Upgrade (4)Royal Guard TIE (0)Darth Vader (29)Predator (3)Advanced Targeting Computer (1)TIE/x1 (0)"Dark Curse" (16)"Night Beast" (15)Total: 100
And royally confuse everyone. If one side starts throwing in proxies then you need to let that version of Han gain things like C-3PO and the like. It may turn the wins but it is just throwing fuel into an explosive situation.
Let blue try winning with the cards that are actually available. I believe my suggestion has a shot at defeating that Han build but will certainly admit that if it had access to unlimited Proxing of cards not available there would be changes. The Cluster turns into a Proton Rocked and of course Vader would get a systems upgrade via the title no one actually has yet. Jax would turn into Fel and the modifications would be turning into Autothrusters.
Just looking for some help / advice on how to beat my mate. Both of us are new to the game but he always seems to have to upper hand.
He uses a YT-1300 with Han Solo, Luke, Nien Numb, Title card, Swarm Tactic and Engine Upgrade. A gold Squad Y-Wing and a Rookie X-wing to tmake the numbers up.
I use the Empire and have access to 2 x Tie Fighters, 2 x Tie Interceptors (Imperal Aces) and 1 x Tie Advance
Can any one sugest a sqaud that might be able to take down his ships.
I'd actually be shocked if you won a game with those ships.
If you don't mind proxying cards and pilots something like this might be fun:
Soontir Fel (27)
Push the Limit (3)
Autothrusters (2)
Shield Upgrade (4)
Royal Guard TIE (0)
Darth Vader (29)
Predator (3)
Advanced Targeting Computer (1)
TIE/x1 (0)
"Dark Curse" (16)
"Night Beast" (15)
Total: 100
And royally confuse everyone. If one side starts throwing in proxies then you need to let that version of Han gain things like C-3PO and the like. It may turn the wins but it is just throwing fuel into an explosive situation.
Let blue try winning with the cards that are actually available. I believe my suggestion has a shot at defeating that Han build but will certainly admit that if it had access to unlimited Proxing of cards not available there would be changes. The Cluster turns into a Proton Rocked and of course Vader would get a systems upgrade via the title no one actually has yet. Jax would turn into Fel and the modifications would be turning into Autothrusters.
If you're going to stick with just what he's got access to he's got a challenge ahead of him. He doesn't really have much that's going to be able to put up much of a fight against Han with Luke and Engine Upgrade. Han's going to be able to boost around staying out of arcs while still getting shots. Between Han's rerolls and Luke he doesn't really need to spend any actions on anything but boosting. Vader is the only pilot he has access to that has a chance to keep up with Han.
He doesn't have enough ships to really swarm the Falcon but he's probably better off trying get all of his ships on the table than he his going with Vader and Jax. Jax's ability isn't going to really make a difference against the Falcon and his PS is a waste of points since even he doesn't match Han and even the cheapest Interceptor beats the PS of the rest of the squad. If he puts the cheapest version of each ship he has in a list (Tempest, 2xSaber, 2xAcademy) he's got 13 points for upgrades.
Upgrading to Vader with Squad Leader and bumping the TIE Fighters up to Academies comes in at 99 points. This gets the entire squad moving after everyone but Han and allows Vader to let someone boost or barrel roll to get a shot at PS9.
Alternately, don't bother with the PS and put the extra points into the Sabres. 12 points get them each PTL and either a Hull or A Stealth Device.
Just looking for some help / advice on how to beat my mate. Both of us are new to the game but he always seems to have to upper hand.
He uses a YT-1300 with Han Solo, Luke, Nien Numb, Title card, Swarm Tactic and Engine Upgrade. A gold Squad Y-Wing and a Rookie X-wing to tmake the numbers up.
I use the Empire and have access to 2 x Tie Fighters, 2 x Tie Interceptors (Imperal Aces) and 1 x Tie Advance
Can any one sugest a sqaud that might be able to take down his ships.
I'd actually be shocked if you won a game with those ships.
I did get one win against him (guess it was luck or how the dice rolled)
Cheers for the advice so far but was wondering is there any shipd that might be able to go head to head with the falcon? Looking at slave1 (thinking big ship v big ship) or for the same money is it better buying 2 tie's (or something along those lines) and try and get a full swarm?
Edited by bluemoose582If you would get nother tie, you could try following
Soonir Fel with PTL - 30
Carnor Jax - 28
Obsidian Pilot - 13
Obsidian Pilot - 13
Howlrunner - 18
This set from distance 3-2 has damage output 12, from distance 1 it is 17 (having howl around gives you re-rolls on each ship in range 1)
If you would concetrate fire on Han engaging him as close as possible and block him with TIEs or Carnor than it should not take much time to kill him.
DECIMATOR EATS FALCONS FOR LUNCH. MUNCHES ON BALD EAGLES FOR DINNER.
No seriously. Play a Decimator versus the Falcon. Its not only a fun ship, its a really good beginner piece to get as you can make powerful lists with only a few ships:
I recommend you add:
1 Decimator as your falcon killer.
1 regular tie int expansion for soontir fel
1 more tie fighter so you can run Decimator 3 tie.
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optional:
1 phantom for Phantom Decimator
1 Starviper for auto thrusters for Soontir fel.