What are people's thoughts on allowing 10pts of free torpedo and/or missiles in a game?

Let's see how extra munitions works out first.

I've been a proponent of this for a while. Other disposable upgrades like Leia and Moff and countermeasures and adrenaline rush could also be purchased with the free 10 points.

Or maybe there is a free version one can take by default. Everything with a torpedo slot gets a free standard torpedo, etc.

I like that paragoomba

Or maybe there is a free version one can take by default. Everything with a torpedo slot gets a free standard torpedo, etc.

I like this a lot.

It doesn't make sense for ships to go in empty unless they were returning from raids. - and that could be a scenario special rule.

With PT's and CMs being essentially outdated, they could easily become the standard - and actually then get use.

You mean "ordnance," right?

You mean "ordnance," right?

I want free legislative upgrades in my xwing

hell, you give me a free 10 point ordinance that bans primary weapon turrets, I'd be as happy as I can be!

I like the idea of more ordnance use, but will the freebie then stack with extra munitions of failsafe? if so, then it might start to be too good.

The big problem with giving everyone 10 points of ordnance is that the lists that already tend to dominate will get even better.

Decimator + Ace gets to to add 10 points of Torpedos and Mines.

Fat Han has 10 points to take a Missile and what ever sort of ordnance his escorts have.

Any of the lists with multiple B-Wings have two Torpedo slots to fill on each B-Wing. That means that BBBBZ gets to add 4 Flechette Torpedoes for free.

Brobots get 10 points to split between two mines.

I think it would be better if certain ships had some points for ordnance built into their cost. This could either be a flat discount or a discount per slot. The ship doesn't get any cheaper by not taking ordnance but adding some ordnance becomes more cost effective.

You mean "ordnance," right?

I want free legislative upgrades in my xwing

hell, you give me a free 10 point ordinance that bans primary weapon turrets, I'd be as happy as I can be!

We could introduce Judges from Final Fantasy Tactics Advance.

I would suggest limiting to only torpedoes and missiles. Not bombs

2 homing missiles on 2 z-95's for 24 pts would make them very good. Perhaps too good.

Or maybe there is a free version one can take by default. Everything with a torpedo slot gets a free standard torpedo, etc.

I'm sure those BBBBZ lists don't really need the 'help' and help us all if you extend torpedo to include missile which would instantly make ZZZZZZZZ a thing.

In another thread I proposed an X-Wing title that grants a cost discount for a torpedo upgrade. I too worry that a flat 10 points helps already dominant lists.

I've been a proponent of this for a while. Other disposable upgrades like Leia and Moff and countermeasures and adrenaline rush could also be purchased with the free 10 points.

I just double checked, and sadly I _can't_ put an ordnance token on Leia. (Not that you said I could, but I got very hopeful for a minute.)

If Moff JJ throws a crewmember out of an airlock, does that crewmember count as ordnance?

Sure.

http://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v3!s!32:72:-1:-1:;32:72:-1:-1:;31:18,73:7:-1:U.27;31:18,73:7:-1:U.27;31:18,73:7:-1:U.27

Politicians are extremely expensive.

You would be stupid to deny a 10pts free ordinance.