I for one, am excited. I can't help but feel that the quality of the sequels will greatly surpass that of the prequels.

I for one, am excited. I can't help but feel that the quality of the sequels will greatly surpass that of the prequels.

I could burp and surpass the prequels, don't build your hopes too high alot of us did that in 99 and sixteen years on we are still bitter about it.

It will be good.

Judging by the trailers, they will be amazing.

Judging by the trailers, they will be amazing.

We said the same about phantom, hell they said it about green lantern trailers lie.

It's really not hard to make 2 minutes look good, 90-120 is another matter.

Judging by the trailers, they will be amazing.

We said the same about phantom, hell they said it about green lantern trailers lie.

It's really not hard to make 2 minutes look good, 90-120 is another matter.

As true as this is, I do have a good feeling about this.

Disney knows how to handle a franchise. JJ is an awesome director.

The problems with the prequels, from my point of view, won't come into play here. GL is no where to be found, so he can't get away with murder (ing the SW universe). And one of the biggest problems that plagued the prequels that I never hear anyone talk about is that we all knew the story and had our own version of how it should play out. We all knew Obi-Wan taught Anakin, we all knew Anakin fell to the Dark Side, we all knew there was a lightsaber duel on a molten planet. The only unknown was how it happened, and we were all sorry we asked that question.

This is a new story. For the first time since 1983, nobody knows what's going to happen after the title crawl.

And I'm so excited for that.

JJ butchered star trek twice I don't see how anyone can call him good, just because he's actually seen star wars does not mean he won't make the same mess.

Disney knows how to handle a franchise.

Like Pirates of the Caribbean? Yick.

That aside, I'm cautiously optimistic about TFA. Definitely going to see it, any following will depend on how it does.

Hey, the first pirates movie was awesome at least

and lets face it. We will all go see all the movies. Like we went and saw each PT movie hoping they would get better.

Disney knows how to handle a franchise.

Like Pirates of the Caribbean? Yick.

As much as I agree with that, Pirates was a strictly Disney venture, like Tron Legacy.

The acquisition of Lucasfilm gave them the Star Wars universe which is an established franchise, just like their relationship with Marvel.

I haven't seen one thing from Marvel that feels like the Mickey Mouse club vomitted all over it. Marvel has only gotten stronger and beefier. Have you seen Daredevil? I'm amazed Disney had any kind of hand in that and I haven't heard one negative thing about it. Based on how they have handled Marvel, I think it's safe to conclude they'll use the same technique with Star Wars.

That's what I mean by them knowing how to handle a franchise.

Well if the spoiled plot is anything to judge (and obviously a lot of that was conjectural), this will be ever so slightly better then prequels. Barely.

I have to agree with Hobo I've never liked anything JJ's touched

JJ butchered star trek twice I don't see how anyone can call him good, just because he's actually seen star wars does not mean he won't make the same mess.

JJ made the only two Star Trek movies worth watching. Sorry, you're just plain wrong.

JJ butchered star trek twice I don't see how anyone can call him good, just because he's actually seen star wars does not mean he won't make the same mess.

JJ made the only two Star Trek movies worth watching. Sorry, you're just plain wrong.

Hehe, as a lapsed trekkie I'm not sure I would go that far (... but.. then again... the older ST movies weren't that great).

I'm confident that JJ has the skill to make this good, provided he doesn't do anything like "This is so crayzee, it just might work!" He does have the capacity to screw things up, IMO.

JJ butchered star trek twice I don't see how anyone can call him good, just because he's actually seen star wars does not mean he won't make the same mess.

JJ made the only two Star Trek movies worth watching. Sorry, you're just plain wrong.

Hehe, as a lapsed trekkie I'm not sure I would go that far (... but.. then again... the older ST movies weren't that great).

I'm confident that JJ has the skill to make this good, provided he doesn't do anything like "This is so crayzee, it just might work!" He does have the capacity to screw things up, IMO.

He put a space ship designed to work in a vacuum under water where the pressure would crush it like a coke can, he had Khan teleport across two quadrants ships fired at warp speeds the list of crazy goes on and on.

Star trek is about exploration and diplomacy not mindless action scenes anyone that likes the two newest films clearly does not like star trek or understand its core message.

[We all know it, but just so it's plainly stated:]

JJ took Wrath of Khan , added lens flares, and flipped Kirk & Spock. It was awful.

He put a space ship designed to work in a vacuum under water where the pressure would crush it like a coke can, he had Khan teleport across two quadrants ships fired at warp speeds the list of crazy goes on and on.

Star trek is about exploration and diplomacy not mindless action scenes anyone that likes the two newest films clearly does not like star trek or understand its core message.

Those are hardly the only absurd situation we've witnessed in Sci-Fi. Sci-Fi has never been about realism. Star Wars is certainly not exception to this. In fact, it's one of the more unrealistic Space Opera franchises.

I agree that Star Trek was originally about exploration and diplomacy, but people (generally) prefer asses to be kicked.

I for one, am excited. I can't help but feel that the quality of the sequels will greatly surpass that of the prequels.

I could burp and surpass the prequels, don't build your hopes too high alot of us did that in 99 and sixteen years on we are still bitter about it.

Meh. I'm not bitter. I really enjoyed The Phantom Menace . But then again, I was 14.

Judging by the trailers, they will be amazing.

We said the same about phantom, hell they said it about green lantern trailers lie.

It's really not hard to make 2 minutes look good, 90-120 is another matter.

It's a JJ Abrams Disney LucasFilm movie. It will be at least 120 minutes long. I'd bet closer to 150 minutes long.

JJ butchered star trek twice I don't see how anyone can call him good, just because he's actually seen star wars does not mean he won't make the same mess.

I agree on JJ's chops. But he's proven that he's happy to make nostalgic films like Super 8 and Cloverfield .

Not that anybody remembers those movies. But at the very least, it should feel like Star Wars. Even if it feels like extremely stretched out, not very good Star Wars.

Happily, JJ Abrams only gets one movie to f___ up.

JJ butchered star trek twice I don't see how anyone can call him good, just because he's actually seen star wars does not mean he won't make the same mess.

JJ made the only two Star Trek movies worth watching. Sorry, you're just plain wrong.

Must be the only two Star Trek movies you've seen.

[We all know it, but just so it's plainly stated:]

JJ took Wrath of Khan , added lens flares, and flipped Kirk & Spock. It was awful.

Into Darkness wasn't just Wrath of Khan with lens flare. It was a parody of Wrath of Khan with lens flare.

When Kirk died, I laughed out loud. At least until Quinto's Spock looked sad/angry. And then he yelled, "Khan!" And I laughed louder .

Into Darkness wasn't just Wrath of Khan with lens flare. It was a parody of Wrath of Khan with lens flare.

When Kirk died, I laughed out loud. At least until Quinto's Spock looked sad/angry. And then he yelled, "Khan!" And I laughed louder .

Star trek is about exploration and diplomacy not mindless action scenes anyone that likes the two newest films clearly does not like star trek or understand its core message.

I don't disagree. I've never been a big Star Trek fan though I have watched the movies.

However, the two newest movies were commercial and critical successes by any measure, and good films. They may not have been what you were looking for, but they are not an indication of a lack of talent on JJ's part. If anything, it seems like science fantasy is going to be right in his wheelhouse.

Don't forget, in the "perfect" old Star Trek world we got saddled with the insufferable Bill Shatner, and even got to watch a bunch of geriatrics hunting for gray whales.

In fairness, I saw this in 1999 and you would not have been able to convince me that this wasn't going to be the greatest movie ever:

So... yeah.

i think the biggest problems (outside of Jar Jar) of the prequels were:

1 - Including R2-D2 and C3PO, especially C3PO. Even with the mind-wipe comment, at the end of ROTS, he never fit in.

2 - Killing Darth Maul in Ep 1 and bringing in Count Dooku. One of the things that I remember as a kid seeing Ep 4 the first time was that the audience knew that Vader was not dead and that he would return. Maul should have had the same fate with Anakin killing him in Ep 3 and taking his place as the Apprentice. Palpatine would have orchestrated it knowing that Anakin was stronger.

3 - The horrendous acting of HC and the forced chemistry between Anakin and Padme. I never once believed that they were "in love" seeing as how that "love" is what was supposed to start this whole mess.

4 - Although there were glimpses of the darkness of Anakin, these glimpses should have been darker without him apologizing every time he strayed or said anything against the "Jedi Way".

if the next three are successful as expected, Disney should go back and re-imagine the first three Eps. Wipe the slate clean as they have done with the EU. They should also go back and re-issue the Blu-rays of Ep 4-6 again (call them Diamond Collections or whatever) and have Han shoot first.

Star trek is about exploration and diplomacy not mindless action scenes anyone that likes the two newest films clearly does not like star trek or understand its core message.

I don't disagree. I've never been a big Star Trek fan though I have watched the movies.

However, the two newest movies were commercial and critical successes by any measure, and good films. They may not have been what you were looking for, but they are not an indication of a lack of talent on JJ's part. If anything, it seems like science fantasy is going to be right in his wheelhouse.

Don't forget, in the "perfect" old Star Trek world we got saddled with the insufferable Bill Shatner, and even got to watch a bunch of geriatrics hunting for gray whales.

In fairness, I saw this in 1999 and you would not have been able to convince me that this wasn't going to be the greatest movie ever:

So... yeah.

Transformers was a success box office in no way indicates the quality of the film, there are plenty of mouth breathing idiots that will stand and clap because there were plenty of explosions and flag waving.

When Simon Pegg helped them with the trek 3 script he handed in a proper sci-fi script and got told to dumb it down to the standards of the other two.

The majority of movie goers are idiots easily amused by shiny things pretty women and things that go boom the fact they liked the trek movies proves squat.

The phantom menace made money and that's almost universally derided by critics the general public and star wars fans.

And if you've only seen the movies then you don't know Jack about what star trek is about and can't comprehend how not trek jj films are, it's an argument from ignorance fallacy your using.

And if you've only seen the movies then you don't know Jack about what star trek is about and can't comprehend how not trek jj films are, it's an argument from ignorance fallacy your using.

Notice I said critical and commercial success. Rotten Tomatoes positive review of Tranformers 57%, Rotten Tomatoes positive reviews of Phantom Menace 57%, Star Trek 95%, Star Trek into the Darkness 87%.

JJ Abrams is a very capable director when it comes to making good, successful movies. If you're using your hurt feelings over what the new films should have (in your mind) been to say Abrams is a terrible director, it is an argument from ignorance fallacy you're using. Critics and movie-goers don't seem to share your opinion.

I don't know that JJ will capture the "feel" of the original trilogy, but I'm pretty sure TFA is going to be a good movie, and if it is as good as Star Trek and Into the Darkness, I will be thrilled.

And if you've only seen the movies then you don't know Jack about what star trek is about and can't comprehend how not trek jj films are, it's an argument from ignorance fallacy your using.

Notice I said critical and commercial success. Rotten Tomatoes positive review of Tranformers 57%, Rotten Tomatoes positive reviews of Phantom Menace 57%, Star Trek 95%, Star Trek into the Darkness 87%.

JJ Abrams is a very capable director when it comes to making good, successful movies. If you're using your hurt feelings over what the new films should have (in your mind) been to say Abrams is a terrible director, it is an argument from ignorance fallacy you're using. Critics and movie-goers don't seem to share your opinion.

I don't know that JJ will capture the "feel" of the original trilogy, but I'm pretty sure TFA is going to be a good movie, and if it is as good as Star Trek and Into the Darkness, I will be thrilled.

If it's as good as Into Darkness, I will be sad because it was awful.

Also your argument is, "You must be wrong because movie who probably weren't even born when original Trek was going on liked the movies"

I'm actually fine with 2009 (although it wasn't really that good), but Into Darkness utter crap.

Argumentum ad populum: Just because many people think that JJ Abrams's Star Trek movies are good doesn't make it so.

The 2009 movie was good for a reboot, for what it needed to be. But Into Darkness ? Yeah, that was pants.

The only reason anyone remembers those movies is because they had Star Trek in their name. JJ Abrams has yet to make a movie that is truly memorable - and I doubt that he'll magically find an ability to do so with The Force Awakens . But The Force Awakens doesn't need to be memorable, it just needs to not suck and get the Mickey Mouse Star Wars films kicked off right.