So I just finished Heir to the Jedi, and there is a point In the book where an interdictor is encountered. Luke mentions it is an older model and the empire is starting to mount gravity generators on their newer star destroyers. I'm wondering if that fact will be mentioned again, specifically making the dome in the bottom said gravity generator.

What other snippets have you found that could alter the game?

Dont know if its interesting or more sad, but its definetly noteworthy that season 2 of Star Wars: Rebels will feature both B-wings and A-wings meaning both that all related lore to the projects and development of those vessels can be scrapped and that they have been around for way, way longer then before.

Heir to the Jedi has pirates flying b-wings as well.

I'm actually okay with this lore change. Just because you got some screen time in the movies, doesn't mean you designed or did something super important to the rebellion. Maybe admiral Ackbar just, well.. Admiraled.

I'm ok with the changes as long as they have logic and things aren't changed for no discernible reason. Tossing old stories with no benefit other then an author/producer getting to use something early would piss me off.

Looking at the footage I believe you will find out those are R-22 spearheads and not the A wing intnerseptors like you think. I believe the other is an H-60 bomber and not a B wing either.

Remember SMKeyes that is probable that all those models doesn't exist now. But as you said, it's possible.

If you want to compare the new books to Movie/TV level canon. Heir to the Jedi was about as good as game canon (the lowest). Tarkin was better, but was quite fiddly with his super ship. Rebels a new dawn (I am about 2/3 of the way through) is even better then the TV series IMHO

I always thought the dome on the bottom was part of the reactor.

Secondly, if there were gravity projectors on the ISDs.. why didn't they use them during the battle of Hoth, or when the falcon escaped from Bespin?

Looking at the footage I believe you will find out those are R-22 spearheads and not the A wing intnerseptors like you think. I believe the other is an H-60 bomber and not a B wing either.

Those A-wings in Rebels are nearly exact to Ralph McQuarrie's artwork of the A-Wing so I'm inclined to believe they could R-22 Spearheads. But the red B-Wing is nowhere near what a H-60 Tempest looks like.

If you want to compare the new books to Movie/TV level canon. Heir to the Jedi was about as good as game canon (the lowest). Tarkin was better, but was quite fiddly with his super ship. Rebels a new dawn (I am about 2/3 of the way through) is even better then the TV series IMHO

I always thought the dome on the bottom was part of the reactor.

Secondly, if there were gravity projectors on the ISDs.. why didn't they use them during the battle of Hoth, or when the falcon escaped from Bespin?

Hitting the nail square on the head there, in Legends those Interdictors didn't appear until after Hoth after seeing the Rebels escape tactics work so well.

I would love if the designers of the A-Wing and B-Wing remain the same but I am not that upset that the A-Wings and B-Wings are coming earlier then in the EU after thinking about it. The EU had to retrocon in the existence of the R-22 Spearhead A-Wing lookalike and H-60 Tempest B-Wing lookalike after West End Games after WEG established that both craft were designed after Yavin despite the Droids cartoon, which came out well before the WEG material concerning them did and was set long before A New Hope, including craft which looked just like A-Wings and B-Wings in its opening episodes.

This time they are apparently splitting the difference by having the fighters designed by the resistance's allies prior to A New Hope.

I haven't seen much of Rebels, but from what I've seen of the previews for season 2, the B-Wing looks very prototype-y to me. To the point of looking like it's a hand-built one-off, rather than a serial production vehicle. Similarly, the A-Wings might be low-quantity initial-production models undergoing field trials. (And after they get reamed by Vader's TIE Advanced, they might go back to the drawing board with them - whether they perceive the issue to be one with the ship or simply their misfortune of being meh pilots going against one of the best starfighter pilots - if not the best starfighter pilot - in the galaxy.)

Regarding the Interdictors the EU had CC-2200 class Interdictor cruisers in service at the end of the Clone Wars. There are also some sources which imply that the CC-7700 class Interdictor frigates were pre-Clone Wars craft though that hasn't been confirmed. The Immobilizer-class Interdictor cruisers more commonly seen in the EU were newer but I don't think they were ever given an exact date for when they entered use. And all three classes are now canon.

If you want to compare the new books to Movie/TV level canon. Heir to the Jedi was about as good as game canon (the lowest). Tarkin was better, but was quite fiddly with his super ship. Rebels a new dawn (I am about 2/3 of the way through) is even better then the TV series IMHO

I always thought the dome on the bottom was part of the reactor.

Secondly, if there were gravity projectors on the ISDs.. why didn't they use them during the battle of Hoth, or when the falcon escaped from Bespin?

Logical reasons why they couldn't be used:

On Hoth, the only star Destroyer we see is incapacitated with an ion cannon, and we never see the gr-75 and fighters jump to lightspeed. the gravity projectors have to be angled so Han's erratic maneuvering may have avoided some. *IF* the dome was a projector, it would not have a full capability that a interdictor would.

As for Bespin, Perhaps the generators were. It spooled up yet? Maybe Super Star Destroyers don't have them?

As for Heir to the Jedi, I actually enjoyed it. The only issue I had with the book was that any fear to the fate of Characters was not there as we know the outcome of the movies.

Still it is a small fact that may show up later, it may not. From what we've seen on rebels star Destroyers seem to have a rather large hollow section housing the reactor. The current crew complement and capabilities may be different from what we were used to.

I'm ok with the changes as long as they have logic and things aren't changed for no discernible reason. Tossing old stories with no benefit other then an author/producer getting to use something early would piss me off.

But there's plenty of old stories that were just made up in order to cover up conflicts introduced by the horrible tangled mess of Legends. The R-22 was just pointless- "There's a ship that looks identical to an A-Wing but technically isn't" adds nothing to the universe beyond confusion, and it's not like the story of the A-Wing being built after Yavin IV was exactly fascinating.

I'm ok with the changes as long as they have logic and things aren't changed for no discernible reason. Tossing old stories with no benefit other then an author/producer getting to use something early would piss me off.

But there's plenty of old stories that were just made up in order to cover up conflicts introduced by the horrible tangled mess of Legends. The R-22 was just pointless- "There's a ship that looks identical to an A-Wing but technically isn't" adds nothing to the universe beyond confusion, and it's not like the story of the A-Wing being built after Yavin IV was exactly fascinating.

That's my point. Then there WOULD be an added benefit if they tossed the R-22 background and just said the first prototype A-Wings came out earlier. What I'm hoping to avoid with the reset is something better then the EU tangled mess, not just a replacement that is just as tangled or illogical.

Example1: Disney says the R-22 never existed and adds a backstory of A-Wing prototypes first being seen pre-Yavin while being tested-out, but not used in large numbers until Endor. I'm fine with that.

Example2: Disney says the R-22 IS the prototype and we see it in Rebels. Nothing really changed from the old EU. I'm fine with that.

Example3: Disney says this pre-Yavin ship IS the A-Wing, not a prototype, we just want it to show up earlier now so it can fly around in Rebels. But, why don't we see any at Yavin? Well, because (insertion of first NEW explanatory back-stories begins). I'm not fine with that.

Example3: Disney says this pre-Yavin ship IS the A-Wing, not a prototype, we just want it to show up earlier now so it can fly around in Rebels. But, why don't we see any at Yavin? Well, because (insertion of first NEW explanatory back-stories begins). I'm not fine with that.

I have a feeling this is the route they'll take (I'm personally fine with that). But If they do, you'll likely never hear an official reason for it not appearing in the battle of Yavin.

Why isn't the a-wing at yavin? It couldn't fire proton torpedoes.

It could easily just be that there weren't any A-Wing or B-Wing squadrons assigned to Yavin IV

Not every battle will feature every type of fighter, the rebels would choose the best craft for the job.

Not every battle will feature every type of fighter, the rebels would choose the best craft for the job.

In most of the battles in the movie the rebel alliance just throws everything it has into the assault. When it came to the defence of Yavin there wouldnt have been a reason not to launch every fighter they had available.

Everything it has at the location where the battle takes place. The only time we know for certain, the only time we have any reason to believe we might be seeing every ship type the Alliance has is at Endor and even then its unsure because we never actually see the entire Alliance fleet in one shot so we have no idea what they had in the battle off screen.

Not every battle will feature every type of fighter, the rebels would choose the best craft for the job.

In most of the battles in the movie the rebel alliance just throws everything it has into the assault. When it came to the defence of Yavin there wouldnt have been a reason not to launch every fighter they had available.

The SOP for the rebellion may have been to station X-Wings and Y-Wings on planetary bases and to station A-Wings on capital ships. The A-Wing is smaller, lighter, more maneuverable. It takes up less space on the inside (or outside) of a carrier ship (whether a Gozanti or a Nebulon-B). It is better suited for keeping hordes of TIE Fighters at bay while the carrier ship escapes - and then themselves using their superior speed to disengage and escape and follow their mothership(s) into hyperspace soon after.

The X-Wing and Y-Wing are bigger, heavier, more heavily armed and armored craft. They also have integral astromech sockets. The X-Wing and Y-Wing are more likely to serve as long-range strike craft, with the X-Wings packing enough guns, armor, shields, speed, and maneuverability to deal with TIE Fighters (and with the proton torpedoes, to act as auxiliary capital ship killers) while the Y-Wings rock their larger payload of torpedoes (and bombs) to kill capital ships or bases and their ion cannons to disable enemy transports carrying HVTs.

Given that the rebels were expecting their attack against the Death Star to be a long-range one (they didn't know the Falcon was being tracked), it makes sense that the Y-wing and X-wing pilots would be given the mission and briefed on the attack (and possibly have run simulations), while any A-wing pilots would not have been so instructed and therefore would have likely been tasked with scrambling to protect whatever transports the rebels might have been attempting to use to evacuate the base.

Until Return/Jedi, we only ever seen X-Wings (and Y-Wings) being launched from planetary bases (exception: The Clone Wars, where the Republic launches Y-Wings from Venetors, but the Republic and rebel military doctrine are not likely to share many similarities). And the only time we ever see A-Wings, they are being launched from rebel carrier ships.

Not every battle will feature every type of fighter, the rebels would choose the best craft for the job.

In most of the battles in the movie the rebel alliance just throws everything it has into the assault. When it came to the defence of Yavin there wouldnt have been a reason not to launch every fighter they had available.

If that was how the rebel tactics worked the rebellion would be lucky to live past the first engagement.

When on the defensive you commit the forces you have to, so if you lose the rebellion will still go on. When on the offensive you can overcommit your forces to increase the chances of a swift success.

So when yavin was under attack a small strike force of agile ships that could carry torpedoes was chosen. A-wings wouldn't have been able to carry the torpedoes and the b-wing would have been too slow and not agile enough to make the trench run.

At endor the rebels attacked with everything they had, they had to go all in for the win.

Not every battle will feature every type of fighter, the rebels would choose the best craft for the job.

In most of the battles in the movie the rebel alliance just throws everything it has into the assault. When it came to the defence of Yavin there wouldnt have been a reason not to launch every fighter they had available.

If that was how the rebel tactics worked the rebellion would be lucky to live past the first engagement.

When on the defensive you commit the forces you have to, so if you lose the rebellion will still go on. When on the offensive you can overcommit your forces to increase the chances of a swift success.

So when yavin was under attack a small strike force of agile ships that could carry torpedoes was chosen. A-wings wouldn't have been able to carry the torpedoes and the b-wing would have been too slow and not agile enough to make the trench run.

At endor the rebels attacked with everything they had, they had to go all in for the win.

If A-wings were really at Yavin, wouldn't they have been effective anyways? A-wings are far faster and agile than X-wings and could easily strip the trench of its defenses in a few passes. They also carry missiles, they aren't as powerful as a torpedo but they are good enough to quickly eliminate cannon towers. Plus their superior speed would have decimated the TIEs that Vader was able to get deployed.

The point of my post wasn't actually about whether there should have been A-wings seen at Yavin or not. There are of course all kinds of logical reasons for them not to have been seen there even if A-wings or a prototype existed. The point was creation of NEW explanations to replace those already in EU canon for no beneficial reason other then to have something show up early in the Star Wars timeline. Why change the back story of the A-wing we already have in EU unless there is some benefit?

So what is the definition of benefit? If a story calls for a fast, lightly armed and armoured ship, that would be statistically the same as an a-wing/r-22 spearhead, why invent a new one? Especially if you want something recognizable?

I am okay for that, but some will chafe at that decision.

One thing to consider is that I the a-wing and b-wing are now older craft, we may see them used more in the era BEFORE the new films. We may see NEW versions of these craft, like the new T-70 resistance fighter.

I see a benefit of moving up the inception of these classic ships so they remain a part of the classic era rather than being a newer ship that fades into obscurity as the new movies come out with new ships (or updated designs of these ships).