Does ____ breathe new life into Saboteur?

By DraconPyrothayan, in X-Wing

No, I really mean it this time, guys.

You may recall similar titles when the SLAM drive was spoiled, as well as Cloak.

Now, however, we have Emperoreror Plapaplap coming into the game, which removes the primary problem with the card.

Yes, Palpatine's wording does not restrict you to dice rolled in combat. He blocks asteroid damage, guarantees Sabateur flips a card, and enables Daredevil to be damage-free (if you don't want to buy the Engine Upgrade).

In addition to the combat-phase shenanigans.

Pity we can't get him into a team with a Lando + C3P0 ship. That'd be hilarious.

Nothing breathes life into Saboteur. Saboteur is the floating hobo you drag from the river and then look at awkwardly, counting his open sores and track marks, while pretending you never took that CPR class when you worked all those summers at the city swimming pool.

Just let it go. Put your boot on it, nudge it back down the muddy banks, and let the current take it away.

I've used Oicunn in the Dauntless with a a saboteur on his ship and it worked well.

No, I really mean it this time, guys.

You may recall similar titles when the SLAM drive was spoiled, as well as Cloak.

Now, however, we have Emperoreror Plapaplap coming into the game, which removes the primary problem with the card.

Yes, Palpatine's wording does not restrict you to dice rolled in combat. He blocks asteroid damage, guarantees Sabateur flips a card, and enables Daredevil to be damage-free (if you don't want to buy the Engine Upgrade).

In addition to the combat-phase shenanigans.

Pity we can't get him into a team with a Lando + C3P0 ship. That'd be hilarious.

While Palpatine makes Saboteur useable, I think it will still suck. The opportunity cost of needing to use an action, filling a crew slot, and requiring range 1 is a big hurdle to clear. Add to that the opportunity cost of using Palpatine's ability prior to combat (where you may need it for an evade, extra damage, or to make a crit go away) and Saboteur is still pretty bad. It might see some play on a Decimator with a crew slot and 2 points to spare (Oicunn with Determination, Dauntless, Palpatine and Saboteur might be fun) .

If flipping up cards is something that you want to do, Lt. Colzet is probably a much better bet than Palpatine+Saboteur.

Nothing breathes life into Saboteur. Saboteur is the floating hobo you drag from the river and then look at awkwardly, counting his open sores and track marks, while pretending you never took that CPR class when you worked all those summers at the city swimming pool.

Just let it go. Put your boot on it, nudge it back down the muddy banks, and let the current take it away.

Dude, WTF.

Nothing breathes life into Saboteur. Saboteur is the floating hobo you drag from the river and then look at awkwardly, counting his open sores and track marks, while pretending you never took that CPR class when you worked all those summers at the city swimming pool.

Just let it go. Put your boot on it, nudge it back down the muddy banks, and let the current take it away.

Ha, this reminded me of that time in high school when my buddy practiced CPR on this really busty girl we both had a liking to and he ended up getting her pregnant the next week. Unfortunately, the baby was a stillborn and both of them were heartbroken for quite awhile, not over each other, but rather the loss of life. They tried dating for awhile after she graduated, but she ended up moving to not-anywhere-in-California so they had to break up. Real sad.

Saboteur will still be bad.

Nothing breathes life into Saboteur. Saboteur is the floating hobo you drag from the river and then look at awkwardly, counting his open sores and track marks, while pretending you never took that CPR class when you worked all those summers at the city swimming pool.

Just let it go. Put your boot on it, nudge it back down the muddy banks, and let the current take it away.

Ha, this reminded me of that time in high school when my buddy practiced CPR on this really busty girl we both had a liking to and he ended up getting her pregnant the next week. Unfortunately, the baby was a stillborn and both of them were heartbroken for quite awhile, not over each other, but rather the loss of life. They tried dating for awhile after she graduated, but she ended up moving to not-anywhere-in-California so they had to break up. Real sad.

Saboteur will still be bad.

:blink:

Shark upwards velocity increase of of 781%.

Saboteur alone costs 2 points, a crew slot and an action for a 50% chance of success.

Saboteur and Palpatine costs 10 points, 3 crew slots and an action for a 100% chance of success.

That's 5x the points cost and 3x the crew slots, for 2x the success rate.

Of those 2 options, I prefer Saboteur alone for 2 points.

Also, Saboteur requires that a ship has a facedown damage card.

You should've just flipped that hit to a crit with Palpatine in the first place... why waste an action?

Edited by Klutz

Nothing breathes life into Saboteur. Saboteur is the floating hobo you drag from the river and then look at awkwardly, counting his open sores and track marks, while pretending you never took that CPR class when you worked all those summers at the city swimming pool.

Just let it go. Put your boot on it, nudge it back down the muddy banks, and let the current take it away.

Ha, this reminded me of that time in high school when my buddy practiced CPR on this really busty girl we both had a liking to and he ended up getting her pregnant the next week. Unfortunately, the baby was a stillborn and both of them were heartbroken for quite awhile, not over each other, but rather the loss of life. They tried dating for awhile after she graduated, but she ended up moving to not-anywhere-in-California so they had to break up. Real sad.

Saboteur will still be bad.

What kind of school has kids practice CPR on each other? Was this the 60s or something?

It's a requirement for graduation for some states. We were just bored and it was an after school thing we signed up for.

Ya. Still a tough sell. Might as well use Palp to switch a blank to a crit, effectively doing the same thing (well, sorta). And let us not forget that even more painful then the rolling, is that this is included at the beginning of the card description- "Action:" .

There's no gold on the X-Wing forum lads, only Gold Squadron. Pack it up.

Nothing breathes life into Saboteur. Saboteur is the floating hobo you drag from the river and then look at awkwardly, counting his open sores and track marks, while pretending you never took that CPR class when you worked all those summers at the city swimming pool.

Just let it go. Put your boot on it, nudge it back down the muddy banks, and let the current take it away.

Ha, this reminded me of that time in high school when my buddy practiced CPR on this really busty girl we both had a liking to and he ended up getting her pregnant the next week. Unfortunately, the baby was a stillborn and both of them were heartbroken for quite awhile, not over each other, but rather the loss of life. They tried dating for awhile after she graduated, but she ended up moving to not-anywhere-in-California so they had to break up. Real sad.

Saboteur will still be bad.

What kind of school has kids practice CPR on each other? Was this the 60s or something?

This story is way more interesting than Saboteur.

This thread is full of awkward win. Made me lol more than anything else I've read today.

R2ShihTzu you are either a sociopath or a poet, and I don't care which. Maybe both, but that was a deeply amusing analogy.

10 points to flip a card....... :wacko:

It becomes awesome if you expect 90% of your games to have Chewie on the other side.

So you practiced CPR by blowing air into the lungs of a healthy, breathing individual?

Umm, what?

I'm not sure it was CPR that you walked in on, my friend.

by far this is one of the funniest freaking posts i have ever read on a forum.

Ha, this reminded me of that time in high school when my buddy practiced CPR on this really busty girl we both had a liking to and he ended up getting her pregnant the next week. Unfortunately, the baby was a stillborn and both of them were heartbroken for quite awhile, not over each other, but rather the loss of life. They tried dating for awhile after she graduated, but she ended up moving to not-anywhere-in-California so they had to break up. Real sad.

Saboteur will still be bad.

Well, 50% of the time you wouldn’t need to use His Ungodli-ness to mod your roll for Saboteur anyway, and as pointed out there are a lot of other trigger effects that mean you’re probably only triggering Saboteur 20% of the time (my best guess), so you only need His EvilPimp-ness to help with Saboteur 10% of the time (half of 20%), leaving you the other 90% of the time when the free dice success is available for other nastiness.

What’s my point? Well I guess if you have already built a list around His Rebelbashing-ness in some other way, yes Saboteur wouldn’t be a bad 2 point filler if you have the slots and points spare, but you won’t really need His RockingTheForceLightningLikeItsWinterFuelPaymentWeek-ness to trigger Saboteur all too often, so if you’re taking an 8 point card you really best have a Plan A for getting your monies worth, as Saboteur is a Plan B at best.

Ha, this reminded me of that time in high school when my buddy practiced CPR on this really busty girl we both had a liking to and he ended up getting her pregnant the next week. Unfortunately, the baby was a stillborn and both of them were heartbroken for quite awhile, not over each other, but rather the loss of life. They tried dating for awhile after she graduated, but she ended up moving to not-anywhere-in-California so they had to break up. Real sad.

Saboteur will still be bad.

Completely off topic, but are you named for that one song by oasis?

Completely off topic, but are you named for that one song by oasis?

Did my member title give it away? I bet it was my member title. Had to be.

Completely off topic, but are you named for that one song by oasis?

Did my member title give it away? I bet it was my member title. Had to be.

Actually just noticed that.

No, I just started thinking of you whenever that song came on the radio at work.

<3