X17 Turbolasers v. Advanced Projectors

By Demethostes, in Star Wars: Armada Rules Questions

It depends on how you read it , can you have more than 2 adjacent hull zones? Either way, the way I read it, you could redirect 1 damage to each adjacent hull zone.

You may need to read it to begin with, because it doesn't say what you think it does

Actually, you may need to read it to begin with, because it doesn't say what you think it does.

I am surprised that was there response. It says right in the from of the rules reference the word cannot is absolute

It still follows on the cannot... You cannot suffer more than 1 dmg on each of those hull zones being redirected to...

So if you took 1 on side and 1 on rear, you're still following the cannot rule. If you took 2 side and 1 rear, then you'd be in violation of the 'cannot'

Thus why the "cannot" was never in question. It was their interpretation of "Hull zones" that was confusing

Awesome! I brought this up at a tournament today and was told I was wrong (and I was the one firing the XI7!). Good to see I can read.

Oh, huh, so this is what they were talking about in the episode 10 podcast.

I like rhymers explanation of the damage in armada, I will remember that.

Oh, huh, so this is what they were talking about in the episode 10 podcast.

I like rhymers explanation of the damage in armada, I will remember that.

Que podcast?

De rien

You will find that I am labeled the fan boy of this podcast. . . And I am.. .

De rien

You will find that I am labeled the fan boy of this podcast. . . And I am.. .

De rien

You will find that I am labeled the fan boy of this podcast. . . And I am.. .

actually you have usually been labeled the fanGIRL for the podcast(not by my I just wanted to point that out:D)

De rien

You will find that I am labeled the fan boy of this podcast. . . And I am.. .

actually you have usually been labeled the fanGIRL for the podcast(not by my I just wanted to point that out:D)
Next time you are in Portland. . .

De rien

You will find that I am labeled the fan boy of this podcast. . . And I am.. .

actually you have usually been labeled the fanGIRL for the podcast(not by my I just wanted to point that out:D)
Next time you are in Portland. . .
I'm serious! Type fanboy in the search bar up top. You get nothing but type FANGIRL and guess what comes up:)

De rien

You will find that I am labeled the fan boy of this podcast. . . And I am.. .

actually you have usually been labeled the fanGIRL for the podcast(not by my I just wanted to point that out:D)
Next time you are in Portland. . .
I'm serious! Type fanboy in the search bar up top. You get nothing but type FANGIRL and guess what comes up:)
hate. . . You. . .
:)

Also did you type it in?

Also did you type it in?

>. > It shows up once. . . <.<

Also did you type it in?

>. > It shows up once. . . <.<

(Wow off topic much? Sorry about that op)

Incase it wasn't said I believe the official ruling to be you can redirect 3 points away, 1 to each other hull zone, then suffer the rest as normal.

Incase it wasn't said I believe the official ruling to be you can redirect 3 points away, 1 to each other hull zone, then suffer the rest as normal.

Correct.

This just in! New FAQ changed the ruling. You can now only redirect a total of 1 damage. No more 1 to each.

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Even if the defender is equipped with Advanced Projectors, XI7 Turbolasers prevents the defender from suffering more than one damage in total on hull zones other than the defending hull zone.

For example, if an attack deals four damage, a defender with Advanced Projectors must suffer at least three damage on the defending hull zone; the fourth damage can be suffered on any hull zone.

So.... It now works according to the text on the cards.

/troll

Edited by Forgottenlore

So.... It now works according to the text on the cards.

/troll

The issue is not the "cannot" it is the "Hull zones" because in the end I am. Not redirecting more than 1 damage to each hull zone.

So.... It now works according to the text on the cards.

/troll

They literally just stated it was about balance.

" Also, we’ve made a ruling on the interaction between XI7 Turbolasers and Advanced Projectors, opting to favor the turbolasers over the powerful defensive retrofit in the interests of future game balance."

I agree the conflicting text made for a lot of confusion.

The 'new' ruling is the correct one. The fact that they note balance is meh. However, it's fortunate that they actually made it consistent.

There have been other comments that the cannot vs can isn't what the disagreement is about. It is, see below.

Recall: Golden rules, cannot is absolute.

Assume you can take more than 1 to other hull zones. You take damage you want to redirect (more than 1), Hull zones ABC, and D (Defending), B opposite D.

Let's say 4 for the moment.

Put 1 damage on A, B, C, D.

In that case, you have taken 3 damage to hull zones other than the defending hull zone.

Contradiction with the cannot.

The only situations that do not violate it: 0 or 1 redirected. Therefore, you can only redirect one damage to ABC.

The 'new' ruling is the correct one. The fact that they note balance is meh. However, it's fortunate that they actually made it consistent.

There have been other comments that the cannot vs can isn't what the disagreement is about. It is, see below.

Recall: Golden rules, cannot is absolute.

Assume you can take more than 1 to other hull zones. You take damage you want to redirect (more than 1), Hull zones ABC, and D (Defending), B opposite D.

Let's say 4 for the moment.

Put 1 damage on A, B, C, D.

In that case, you have taken 3 damage to hull zones other than the defending hull zone.

Contradiction with the cannot.

The only situations that do not violate it: 0 or 1 redirected. Therefore, you can only redirect one damage to ABC.

The original ruling followed the Golden rule as well. You still could not shift more than 1 damage per hull zone. You just got the shift it between all hull zones.

Oh, and how are you going to tell FFG what is the "right" ruling? They specified that they changed the ruling for balancing purposes.