If we start a list may be FFG might one day look here


BTL-S3 add crew member to the Y-wing

T-65A3 X-wing some thing like "Fire Control System" or "System Upgrade"

please add more ideas

My fix for X-wing as in my sig:

I'd love to see a Title card that's like "Backbone of the Rebellion" or some such, that adds an EPT slot to Red Sqd, Grey Sqd, & Blackmoon Sqd Pilots.

If we start a list may be FFG might one day look here

BTL-S3 add crew member to the Y-wing

T-65A3 X-wing some thing like "Fire Control System" or "System Upgrade"

please add more ideas

Yeah I would like to see the extra crew slot on the Y-Wing...it would make it the ultimate utility ship.

How about the Krayt Fang YT-1300...from Edge of the Empire Beginner Game. Owned by a Trandoshan who surely has a lot of tricks up his sleeves.

I'd love to see a Title card that's like "Backbone of the Rebellion" or some such, that adds an EPT slot to Red Sqd, Grey Sqd, & Blackmoon Sqd Pilots.

That card already exists it's called R2-D6.

To one ship in a squad. Whoop-dee-doo. It's nice but it just doesn't do the same thing that this title, which I assume would be non-unique, would do.

I'd love to see a Title card that's like "Backbone of the Rebellion" or some such, that adds an EPT slot to Red Sqd, Grey Sqd, & Blackmoon Sqd Pilots.

I'd love to see a Title card that's like "Backbone of the Rebellion" or some such, that adds an EPT slot to Red Sqd, Grey Sqd, & Blackmoon Sqd Pilots.

That card already exists it's called R2-D6.

To one ship in a squad. Whoop-dee-doo. It's nice but it just doesn't do the same thing that this title, which I assume would be non-unique, would do.

It also takes the Astromech slot.

T-65BR Recon-X

Title

2 points

X-wing Only

Your upgrade bar loses the [torpedo] slot and gains a [systems] slot. Your action bar gains the Sensor Ping action.

^Comes with a new token and a new Action Rule Card:

Sensor Ping: Choose one enemy ship at R1-3 and assign it a Ping token. Immediately remove any Evade or Cloak tokens assigned to that ship.

Ping Token: When you attack a ship marked with a Ping token, you may reroll one defensive die. Remove any Ping tokens during the Remove Tokens step of the End phase.

TIE/ad Avenger

Title

3 points

TIE Advanced Only

You gain 1 Attack. Your upgrade bar gains the [cannon] slot. Your action bar gains the Boost action.

^ comes with a new cannon:

Tractor Beam

Cannon

2 points

When you attack a target at R2, you may reroll 1 defensive die. If the target is at R1, you may reroll up to 2 defensive dice.

TIE/D Integrated Cannons

Title

TIE Defender Only

0 points

After you perform a primary weapon attack, you may immediately perform a [cannon] secondary weapon attack against the same target. Any equipped [cannon] upgrades cost -2 squad points, to a minimum of 0.

^The last line is optional, depending on how valuable the multiple attacks prove to be. Combined with the Tractor Beam upgrade above it'd give you a reason to run the title and the passive cannon upgrade, which the title without the point reduction would not do.

BTL-S3 add crew member to the Y-wing

The base Y-wing is the BTL-S3. The second crew member is the gunner.

TIE/D Integrated Cannons

Title

TIE Defender Only

0 points

After you perform a primary weapon attack, you may immediately perform a [cannon] secondary weapon attack against the same target. Any equipped [cannon] upgrades cost -2 squad points, to a minimum of 0.

^The last line is optional, depending on how valuable the multiple attacks prove to be. Combined with the Tractor Beam upgrade above it'd give you a reason to run the title and the passive cannon upgrade, which the title without the point reduction would not do.

as lovely your enthusiasm is but this is too strong with HLC or Mangler cannon. range 2 one attack with 3 and one with 4 dice for 0 points and HLC costing only 5 points? way too strong for the defender. prefer a title like posted in the defender threat before:

Tie Defender Only. Title

Immediately after you reveal a maneuver, if the revealed maneuver is a green maneuver, you may perform a free Boost or Barrel Roll action before executing the maneuver.

1 Point

and get the cannon fix for the defender via the missle slot

Tie Defender Only

Missle 0 Points

If you equip a cannon upgrade, its squad point cost is reduced by 2 (to a minimum of 0)

After you perform a primary weapon attack, you may immediately perform an attack with an equipped secondary cannon weapon which says "Then cancel all dice results."

(Ion, Flachette and any future type cannon doing 1 damage and something special,)

and i like to see something like this:

Advanced Ordnance Carrier

TIE Only. Title 1 Point

You may drop bombs after executing your maneuver with the 2 straight template

You may choose to use the "drop mine action" before executing your maneuver

like the "genius" salvaged astromech but for bombers and punishers

TIE/D Integrated Cannons

Title

TIE Defender Only

0 points

After you perform a primary weapon attack, you may immediately perform a [cannon] secondary weapon attack against the same target. Any equipped [cannon] upgrades cost -2 squad points, to a minimum of 0.

^The last line is optional, depending on how valuable the multiple attacks prove to be. Combined with the Tractor Beam upgrade above it'd give you a reason to run the title and the passive cannon upgrade, which the title without the point reduction would not do.

as lovely your enthusiasm is but this is too strong with HLC or Mangler cannon. range 2 one attack with 3 and one with 4 dice for 0 points and HLC costing only 5 points? way too strong for the defender. prefer a title like posted in the defender threat before:

Tie Defender Only. Title

Immediately after you reveal a maneuver, if the revealed maneuver is a green maneuver, you may perform a free Boost or Barrel Roll action before executing the maneuver.

1 Point

and get the cannon fix for the defender via the missle slot

Tie Defender Only

Missle 0 Points

If you equip a cannon upgrade, its squad point cost is reduced by 2 (to a minimum of 0)

After you perform a primary weapon attack, you may immediately perform an attack with an equipped secondary cannon weapon which says "Then cancel all dice results."

(Ion, Flachette and any future type cannon doing 1 damage and something special,)

and i like to see something like this:

Advanced Ordnance Carrier

TIE Only. Title 1 Point

You may drop bombs after executing your maneuver with the 2 straight template

You may choose to use the "drop mine action" before executing your maneuver

like the "genius" salvaged astromech but for bombers and punishers

I figured the Defenders are pretty badly over-costed. Sans the point reduction, you bump the price up very high to carry a HLC, so two attacks for the cost doesn't seem terribly out of line while still offering something that only the Y-wing lets you do right now.

I figured the Defenders are pretty badly over-costed. Sans the point reduction, you bump the price up very high to carry a HLC, so two attacks for the cost doesn't seem terribly out of line while still offering something that only the Y-wing lets you do right now.

But the Y-Wing doesn't do that right now. The Y-Wing gets to make a 2-dice primary attack and then a secondary attack with a weapon that you've paid a turret premium for and is restricted in its range, its damage or both. That is in no way the same thing as getting to make a 3-dice primary attack and then a secondary attack with a Mangler or HLC. That you're proposing to allow the BFG to be bought at a discount on top is... Well, let's just say I'm pretty sure we won't ever see it as an option.

I think the plan is that soon enough every ship will have a title upgrade. Right now the only ships without a title upgrade are:

• X-wing
• E-wing
• Z-95 Headhunter
• Tie Advanced (coming in the Raider Pack)
• Tie Fighter (coming in Wave 7)
• Tie Bomber (coming in Wave 7)
• Tie Defender (coming in Wave 7)
• Tie Phantom (coming in Wave 7)

That being said more options for a customizable game is better but also having more options doesn't always mean more diversity. The only ship with options between titles is the Firespray-31 and we don't need more titles that are technically auto-include such as the Royal Guard TIE or the IG-2000.

When looking at titles I think the BTL-A4 has done it right with giving an amazing ability but comes at a trade off. That trade off could be points or it could be something that takes something away to where an upgrade is more of a side-grade.

In conclusion I would like to have more titles options so that my only choice is something other than to equip title or not. Still I am willing to wait for better designed titles instead of a 0 cost upgrade that will be included with every ship.

I figured the Defenders are pretty badly over-costed. Sans the point reduction, you bump the price up very high to carry a HLC, so two attacks for the cost doesn't seem terribly out of line while still offering something that only the Y-wing lets you do right now.

But the Y-Wing doesn't do that right now. The Y-Wing gets to make a 2-dice primary attack and then a secondary attack with a weapon that you've paid a turret premium for and is restricted in its range, its damage or both. That is in no way the same thing as getting to make a 3-dice primary attack and then a secondary attack with a Mangler or HLC. That you're proposing to allow the BFG to be bought at a discount on top is... Well, let's just say I'm pretty sure we won't ever see it as an option.

^The last line is optional, depending on how valuable the multiple attacks prove to be. Combined with the Tractor Beam upgrade above it'd give you a reason to run the title and the passive cannon upgrade, which the title without the point reduction would not do.

and get the cannon fix for the defender via the missle slot

Tie Defender Only

Missle 0 Points

If you equip a cannon upgrade, its squad point cost is reduced by 2 (to a minimum of 0)

After you perform a primary weapon attack, you may immediately perform an attack with an equipped secondary cannon weapon which says "Then cancel all dice results."

(Ion, Flachette and any future type cannon doing 1 damage and something special,)

I figured the Defenders are pretty badly over-costed. Sans the point reduction, you bump the price up very high to carry a HLC, so two attacks for the cost doesn't seem terribly out of line while still offering something that only the Y-wing lets you do right now.

they are indeed overcosted thats why this missle upgrade reduces cannon weapons by 2 which is for every cannon. it just allows you to shoot with the cannon after a primary attack as long its not a mangler or HLC.

and how do i bumb up the price for HLC?

and get the cannon fix for the defender via the missle slot

Tie Defender Only

Missle 0 Points

If you equip a cannon upgrade, its squad point cost is reduced by 2 (to a minimum of 0)

After you perform a primary weapon attack, you may immediately perform an attack with an equipped secondary cannon weapon which says "Then cancel all dice results."

(Ion, Flachette and any future type cannon doing 1 damage and something special,)

I figured the Defenders are pretty badly over-costed. Sans the point reduction, you bump the price up very high to carry a HLC, so two attacks for the cost doesn't seem terribly out of line while still offering something that only the Y-wing lets you do right now.

they are indeed overcosted thats why this missle upgrade reduces cannon weapons by 2 which is for every cannon. it just allows you to shoot with the cannon after a primary attack as long its not a mangler or HLC.

and how do i bumb up the price for HLC?

Take an over-costed ship, throw on a 7 point upgrade, and the cost is very high. That's all that I meant.

As for not doing a double-tap with a Mangler or HLC, the Defender is, what, 3 points too expensive? All except Vessery, IIRC.

Take Rexler. For a bare minimum of 44 points, you get a PS8 ship capable of making two attacks against the same target (note that restriction, which the Y-Wing title does not impose). Considering that he's essentially half your list, and is incapable of going "fat" like the large base ships, I don't see the problem.

Now consider the Delta, the cheapest generic. My proposed title (less the optional point reduction, since this discussion assumes that the double-tap ability is too valuable) on a Delta gives you a PS1 ship with a HLC at 37 points. You can take at most 2 in a typical 100-point build. You could switch to Manglers, for a total of 34 points each, but you're still stuck with only 2 of them. You could run triple Deltas with Ion or Flechette Cannons, but I don't see that as anywhere near game-breaking even with double-taps all around.

Of course, throwing on the -2 points changes things significantly, most especially by bringing the Mangler Delta down to 32 points, allowing you to run three of them. This, I admit, could be a potential issue in tournament play, though it'd have the most impact against "fat" lists that don't like concentrated fire or reliable critical hits (which this list would offer both).

Given the restriction of having to shoot the same target with the second shot, for most ships you're looking at a lot of wasted dice, assuming the opportunity isn't lost outright due to a kill on the first shot. It's only when you start getting into things like B's and Y's and YTs that the double-tap really starts to shine, and personally I think that's pretty much exactly how it should be.

I'd love to see a Title card that's like "Backbone of the Rebellion" or some such, that adds an EPT slot to Red Sqd, Grey Sqd, & Blackmoon Sqd Pilots.

I'd love to see a Title card that's like "Backbone of the Rebellion" or some such, that adds an EPT slot to Red Sqd, Grey Sqd, & Blackmoon Sqd Pilots.

That card already exists it's called R2-D6.

To one ship in a squad. Whoop-dee-doo. It's nice but it just doesn't do the same thing that this title, which I assume would be non-unique, would do.

It also takes the Astromech slot.

Is it too much to ask that I have the option to give Dutch an Astromech and an EPT. Or any Y-wing pilot for that matter?

Enhanced tactical navigation - 2 points

X wing only

When you remove a stress place it on an enemy ship at range 1.

Custom modification - 1 point

X wing only

Reduce the cost of a modification by 3

Assault leader - 0 points unique

Rebel only

When firing a torpedo you may spend focus or target locks from friendly ships within range one of your target.

TIE/D Integrated Cannons

Title

TIE Defender Only

0 points

After you perform a primary weapon attack, you may immediately perform a [cannon] secondary weapon attack against the same target. Any equipped [cannon] upgrades cost -2 squad points, to a minimum of 0.

^The last line is optional, depending on how valuable the multiple attacks prove to be. Combined with the Tractor Beam upgrade above it'd give you a reason to run the title and the passive cannon upgrade, which the title without the point reduction would not do.

as lovely your enthusiasm is but this is too strong with HLC or Mangler cannon. range 2 one attack with 3 and one with 4 dice for 0 points and HLC costing only 5 points? way too strong for the defender. prefer a title like posted in the defender threat before:

Tie Defender Only. Title

Immediately after you reveal a maneuver, if the revealed maneuver is a green maneuver, you may perform a free Boost or Barrel Roll action before executing the maneuver.

1 Point

and get the cannon fix for the defender via the missle slot

Tie Defender Only

Missle 0 Points

If you equip a cannon upgrade, its squad point cost is reduced by 2 (to a minimum of 0)

After you perform a primary weapon attack, you may immediately perform an attack with an equipped secondary cannon weapon which says "Then cancel all dice results."

(Ion, Flachette and any future type cannon doing 1 damage and something special,)

and i like to see something like this:

Advanced Ordnance Carrier

TIE Only. Title 1 Point

You may drop bombs after executing your maneuver with the 2 straight template

You may choose to use the "drop mine action" before executing your maneuver

like the "genius" salvaged astromech but for bombers and punishers

well thanks, but i think its only one half of the medal. the new twin ion engine modification may to something good to the defender but iam still in pain of giving up a possible engine upgrade on the defender. so we need at least another titel to let it benefit from anything else. also i think the absence of an evade action hurts the defender really hard

I just started to reread the original "X-Wing - rouge squadron book" and there was some thin in cheaper 6 or 7 that would make for 2 great cards (not title). Wedge asks what distance his lasers are zeroed at, that would lead to 2 cards

• Long range lasers

defender doesn't get an green extra dice at range 3. But you also loose your extra red dice at range 1

• Short Range Lasers

defender looses 1 green dice at range 1, but defender gets an extra (2 instead of the normal 1) green dice at range 3

these cards only affect primary weapons and would only cost 1 or 2 points

What's the name of the squadron you're in when flying the defender in TIE fighter? Ooh well.

[Name goes here] Task Force

Title, defender only, 0pt

The cost to equip [missile] and [cannon] cards is reduced by 2.

So you get a 2pt discount on one gun... Or a 4pt discount, but only on a pair of mutually exclusive upgrades.

That way, defenders might not have the fancy systems of a tie/adv... But it sure as heck has firepower on tap.

What's the name of the squadron you're in when flying the defender in TIE fighter? Ooh well.

Shadow Squadron was in one of the x-wing games

• Tie Fighter (coming in Wave 7)

What?! Is there a preview somewhere that shows this? Is it coming in the raider pack?

• Tie Fighter (coming in Wave 7)

What?! Is there a preview somewhere that shows this? Is it coming in the raider pack?

Inthinknhe meant the upcoming tie only modification.