More rules questions

By ishinken, in Arkham Horror Second Edition

Some Q's encountered during todays session.

Q1: If an encounter says that you shall move to a location and draw two cards, but a gate occupies that spot. Do you ignore drawing the cards (items or whatever it might be) and move directly into the gate?

Q2: I move into a gate, may I use "Find Gate" right away the same turn I enter the other world?

Q3: I havent read in the rules if you get to use your movement points the same turn you return from another world. Can you?

Q4: Where does discarded items go? Into its own pile?

Q5: Do you shuffle if you search through the item pile for any item? Or will you really know where ALL items are in the deck for the rest of the game?

Q6: The rumor "The terrible experiment" states: "Any player may choose to fight one or more of these monsters while in the Miskatonic U. streets". Does that mean that you can fight them ONE at the time or do you have to choose them as a bunch if you want to fight multiple monsters?

1) You enter the gate. You also won't deal with any monsters on the target spot, regardless of if there's a gate; you only deal with monsters that are on the board during the Movement phase.

2) "Find Gate" is a Movement phase spell, and you don't enter the OW on the Movement phase, meaning you'll get at least one encounter in the other world. Currently, there is a debate on whether you can use Find Gate if a Nightgaunt sends you into a gate, and if you can use it when you're delayed at the start of your movement phase. In the interest of preventing a return without having any encounters, I say: no, and no.

3) You don't get movement points if you begin the turn delayed or in an Other World. Therefore, you can't read tomes under those circumstances or use any other items or abilities that require movement points.

4) Discarded items go underneath their respective decks. "Ashcan" Pete's special ability puts this effect to good use.

5) I don't remember if there was an official answer, but I think the method most people use is: if you take the "first" card of a specific type from a deck, you draw and discard (to the bottom of the deck) until you find an item that qualifies. If you look for a specific card or a card of your choice, you shuffle the deck afterwards.

6) Each investigator who wants to participate in the rumor can fight as many or few of the Experiment monsters they want, in any order they choose.

ishinken said:

Q5: Do you shuffle if you search through the item pile for any item? Or will you really know where ALL items are in the deck for the rest of the game?

We've always reshuffled by default, not sure what the rulebook actually says now that I stop to think about it. On the other hand, given how many cards there are and how many different decks, I'd be inclined to say "if you can actually remember everything you see, you deserve to!"

5) the official answer is you shuffle whenever you look through a deck. This doesnt include cases where "take the first X from the X deck" leads you to draw off the top, discarding notX until you find it. Its only for when you eyeball the whole deck.

dj2.0 said:

5) the official answer is you shuffle whenever you look through a deck. This doesnt include cases where "take the first X from the X deck" leads you to draw off the top, discarding notX until you find it. Its only for when you eyeball the whole deck.

I don't think you will find this answer in the rulebook.

"Players only shuffle most decks when they draw a card that instructs them to do
so. Location decks, however, are shuffled before a player
draws from them." (p. 23)

Way too lazy to check, but is there any card that is worded "search for X and then shuffle the deck"? Mythos and OW decks have their shuffle-cards.

Shuffling after "search the deck for X specific card/card of your choice" is necessary. You don't want to see where everything is! Well at least I don't. Semantics be damned.

Only decks I really care about are the Unique Item and Mythos decks. Then again, those are probably the ones that get most searches.

Dam said:

I don't think you will find this answer in the rulebook.

Thats right because it came from Kevin waaaaay back (in 05 I think). Yeah Ive been hanging here since they opened the doors...