Disney considering a Marvel and Star Wars TV channel

By Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun, in X-Wing

This would be great if they can get some of the old shows like Droids, Ewoks, Spiderman and his Amazing Friends. Like Boomerang but add in new stuff, go for an adult line up at night with Agents of SHIELD, Agent Carter, etc.

I'd still like to see something from an Imperial standpoint. No lightsabers, no hokey religions, just the crew of an ISD making the Outer Rim a safer place. Stormtroopers are people too

Am I the only one who thinks that total saturation might not necessarily be the best thing?

I'd still like to see something from an Imperial standpoint. No lightsabers, no hokey religions, just the crew of an ISD making the Outer Rim a safer place. Stormtroopers are people too

Maybe they could bring back this show. It really did help to empathize with the hardworking Storm Troopers that are just trying to help keep us safe.

I'd still like to see something from an Imperial standpoint. No lightsabers, no hokey religions, just the crew of an ISD making the Outer Rim a safer place. Stormtroopers are people too

Or there could be lightsabers and hokey religions every now and again as Vader or an Inquisitor pass through, or the crew of the ISD encounter a smuggler who is more than he (or she) first appears.

(I vote that Edward James Olmos makes recurring appearances as an Admiral ranked officer or Moff.)

Am I the only one who thinks that total saturation might not necessarily be the best thing?

Probably not. But we won't get to find out until that bridge is thoroughly burning.

Edited by Vigil

That's not a show, it's a fan film parody.

Am I the only one who thinks that total saturation might not necessarily be the best thing?

Maybe, but it's working great for Marvel.

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Am I the only one who thinks that total saturation might not necessarily be the best thing?

I feel bad for Star Wars at this point. Marvel since being owned by Disney has done nothing but sell out their characters in hopes of getting those dollar bills. I'm pretty sure Disney is putting that other boot to the money making department of Star Wars.

That's not a show, it's a fan film parody.

Am I the only one who thinks that total saturation might not necessarily be the best thing?

Maybe, but it's working great for Marvel.

The movies are doing great, but Marvel is killing the collectable comic book market with variant covers, revamps, and deaths.

I'd still like to see something from an Imperial standpoint. No lightsabers, no hokey religions, just the crew of an ISD making the Outer Rim a safer place. Stormtroopers are people too

Star Wars works when the empire is as unsympathetic as possible

Humanzing them is a mistake

That's not a show, it's a fan film parody.

Am I the only one who thinks that total saturation might not necessarily be the best thing?

Maybe, but it's working great for Marvel.

The movies are doing great, but Marvel is killing the collectable comic book market with variant covers, revamps, and deaths.

Constantly killing and revamping characters is just another day at the office in comic books.

That's not a show, it's a fan film parody.

Am I the only one who thinks that total saturation might not necessarily be the best thing?

Maybe, but it's working great for Marvel.

The movies are doing great, but Marvel is killing the collectable comic book market with variant covers, revamps, and deaths.

Constantly killing and revamping characters is just another day at the office in comic books.

Well for Marvel and DC it is. That's why people on comic forums are jumping ship to Image and independents.

It looks like Marvel is all ready hard on selling these Star Wars characters. The monthly sales...as you can see, not a single Marvel character in the Top 10 because they can't stop killing/revamping/lol that side story never happened dawg.

http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2015/2015-04.html

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That's not a show, it's a fan film parody.

Am I the only one who thinks that total saturation might not necessarily be the best thing?

Maybe, but it's working great for Marvel.

I'm rather more concerned about what's best for consumers.

I'd still like to see something from an Imperial standpoint. No lightsabers, no hokey religions, just the crew of an ISD making the Outer Rim a safer place. Stormtroopers are people too

Star Wars works when the empire is as unsympathetic as possible

Humanzing them is a mistake

Meh.

People seem to enjoy complex characters. Especially when those characters are bad guys. That's not to say that folk don't also enjoy seeing genuinely bad people get killed by the good guys - that's how Mel Gibson made his career for a while.

But it seems to me that folks want tormented anti-heros and sympathetic villains. And when was the last time you saw a movie with Mel Gibson in it? And do you remember anything about King Edward or Colonel what's-his-name beyond that they were really evil bad guys? I don't. And with Game of Thrones I'll remember Tywin Lannister long after I've forgotten about Joffrey (and possibly even Cersei).

Hell, where the prequels fell flat (IMHO) was in not making Anakin/Vader a sympathetic character - despite trying to. Neither were any of their other protagonists particularly complex or interesting. It isn't until you watch The Clone Wars that Obi-Wan becomes complex or Anakin becomes sympathetic - or that Anakin and Padmé's relationship has any depth beyond Anakin having creepy stalker oogly eyes for a woman almost old enough to be his mother*. And that was a friggin' kids' show.

Yes, the original trilogy was very much evil bad guys versus uncompromised good guys (especially once Han Shot First). But the stuff since then that has been the most interesting has been complex, has had sympathetic antagonists, and protagonists who don't always do the right thing for the right reasons. And we already know that Rogue One is supposed to be that sort of movie, a movie filled with evil rebels as much as good rebels and good Imperials as much as evil Imperials.

If not a show from an Imperial perspective, we may get a show from the perspective of a bounty hunter or a band or guild of bounty hunters.

*For the record, I don't have a problem with guys and gals loving people outside their nominal age range. In the prequels, though, it was just plain weird.

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Yes, the original trilogy was very much evil bad guys versus uncompromised good guys (especially once Han Shot First). But the stuff since then that has been the most interesting has been complex, has had sympathetic antagonists, and protagonists who don't always do the right thing for the right reasons.

I think you'll find that many, many people consider the OT to be the only true Star Wars. The newer stuff is novel, and has some entertainment value for the less discerning fans, but otherwise falls short of what made the original films entertaining. So it's precisely "the stuff since then" that many of those people will continue to turn their noses up at, which, suffice it to say, hardly makes for a compelling reason to make even more of it.

The day Lucas Arts was bought, I said the following "Han Solo and Wolverine movie is going to happen." This is one step closure to that.

Yes, the original trilogy was very much evil bad guys versus uncompromised good guys (especially once Han Shot First). But the stuff since then that has been the most interesting has been complex, has had sympathetic antagonists, and protagonists who don't always do the right thing for the right reasons.

I think you'll find that many, many people consider the OT to be the only true Star Wars. The newer stuff is novel, and has some entertainment value for the less discerning fans, but otherwise falls short of what made the original films entertaining. So it's precisely "the stuff since then" that many of those people will continue to turn their noses up at, which, suffice it to say, hardly makes for a compelling reason to make even more of it.

Yeah, but youre old. All the younglings consider their star wars to be the real star wars.

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Am I the only one who thinks that total saturation might not necessarily be the best thing?

Maybe,

If a lot of good things come out of it and there are stories which we love then by all means, bring it on. If its a lot of cash grabbing people will get tired of it not stop supporting it,

Yeah, but youre old. All the younglings consider their star wars to be the real star wars.

Orks don't age, we just get bigger and darker until we die in glorious combat.

Yeah, but youre old. All the younglings consider their star wars to be the real star wars.

Orks don't age, we just get bigger and darker until we die in glorious combat.

Dang. Guess I should have picked orc at character creation.

All seriousness though, I'm mid twenties at stuck between everyone new star wars and old star wars. My young cousins don't even care about han and luke, but can't get enough rebels and clone wars.

As for the empire, I never read any EU stuff, but played a few games (battlefront, shadows of the empire) but I always thought of the rebels as terrorists. I guess part of it was being middle school aged when 9/11 happened, but they never really did anything to show that the rebels weren't just terrorists, and the Empire never did anything in the movies particulary heinous. I mean, they destroyed a sparsely populated planet hosting a serious terrorist cell\base/populatíon. The rebels killed at least millions if not billions of people on the death star...

That's why I'm pro-empire...

That's not a show, it's a fan film parody.

Am I the only one who thinks that total saturation might not necessarily be the best thing?

Maybe, but it's working great for Marvel.

I'm rather more concerned about what's best for consumers.

I mean the model's working great for the Marvel franchise on the consumer side.

Yes, the original trilogy was very much evil bad guys versus uncompromised good guys (especially once Han Shot First). But the stuff since then that has been the most interesting has been complex, has had sympathetic antagonists, and protagonists who don't always do the right thing for the right reasons.

I think you'll find that many, many people consider the OT to be the only true Star Wars. The newer stuff is novel, and has some entertainment value for the less discerning fans, but otherwise falls short of what made the original films entertaining. So it's precisely "the stuff since then" that many of those people will continue to turn their noses up at, which, suffice it to say, hardly makes for a compelling reason to make even more of it.

I'm sure that the Mouse would love to have their money.

But I'm equally certain that the Mouse has little or no interest in one's view of the original trilogy being the One True Star Wars (and George Lucas is its prophet?).

Especially given that Star Wars didn't make it past the second movie before they started retroactively making the bad guys sympathetic (I am your father) and the good guys complex (What I told you was true: From a certain point of view). You know, the movie that most Star Wars fans have agreed is the Best Star Wars Movie... in the World.

Uncompromising evil makes for one great movie. It doesn't last very long in a franchise, however.

(As someone who didn't even know there was more to Star Wars than one movie on an old, ratty VHS that he watched over and over and over again until about 1997, when I was a tween/teen, and the 'Special Edition' VHS trilogy came out and at the same time I picked up Shadows of the Empire (the book)... all Star Wars is Star Wars. It's not all great. I don't like it all. But it is Star Wars. Speaking of, I should see if I can find that old book and re-read it.)

That's not a show, it's a fan film parody.

Am I the only one who thinks that total saturation might not necessarily be the best thing?

Maybe, but it's working great for Marvel.
I'm rather more concerned about what's best for consumers.

I mean the model's working great for the Marvel franchise on the consumer side.

In what respect?

Yes, the original trilogy was very much evil bad guys versus uncompromised good guys (especially once Han Shot First). But the stuff since then that has been the most interesting has been complex, has had sympathetic antagonists, and protagonists who don't always do the right thing for the right reasons.

I think you'll find that many, many people consider the OT to be the only true Star Wars. The newer stuff is novel, and has some entertainment value for the less discerning fans, but otherwise falls short of what made the original films entertaining. So it's precisely "the stuff since then" that many of those people will continue to turn their noses up at, which, suffice it to say, hardly makes for a compelling reason to make even more of it.

I'm sure that the Mouse would love to have their money.

But I'm equally certain that the Mouse has little or no interest in one's view of the original trilogy being the One True Star Wars (and George Lucas is its prophet?).

Especially given that Star Wars didn't make it past the second movie before they started retroactively making the bad guys sympathetic (I am your father) and the good guys complex (What I told you was true: From a certain point of view). You know, the movie that most Star Wars fans have agreed is the Best Star Wars Movie... in the World.

Uncompromising evil makes for one great movie. It doesn't last very long in a franchise, however.

(As someone who didn't even know there was more to Star Wars than one movie on an old, ratty VHS that he watched over and over and over again until about 1997, when I was a tween/teen, and the 'Special Edition' VHS trilogy came out and at the same time I picked up Shadows of the Empire (the book)... all Star Wars is Star Wars. It's not all great. I don't like it all. But it is Star Wars. Speaking of, I should see if I can find that old book and re-read it.)

That whole "certain point of view" business applies equally well to us real human beings. Whatever opinion people may have of the OT, it's just as valid as your own predilections and preferences.

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The day Lucas Arts was bought, I said the following "Han Solo and Wolverine movie is going to happen." This is one step closure to that.

Alert all commands. Concentrate ALL firepower on Cubanboy.

I just hope we don't get a terrible quality Star Wars show like Agents of SHIELD. ABC Productions and their quality of television is great for things like Castle, Revenge or Desperate Housewives, but I feel like they flopped with Agents, and as much as I enjoyed Daredevil on Netflix, it still had that cheaply made feel to it. I wouldn't want that happening to the Star Wars franchise. If they do decide to make SW on TV, hopefully it'll be things like a SW history show that explores the Legends EU, or behind-the-scenes of the making of SW things, or an HBO/AMC cinematic production quality TV series for people to watch.