so im thinking of running a list with

Vader-x1 title, ATC

howlrunner-swarm tactics

4xAP

which leaves enough points for either EU or im thinking predator

or my alt list will be:

vader-x1, AcCr, outmanoeuvre

marek-x1, ATC, calculation

3xAP

this does leave 3 points for int bid, procket or a mod

what do ppl think

cheers

I've always been a fan of 5 ship swarms with Howl, so the first list is more appealing to me.

Vader loves to have Engine Upgrade everytime I've flown him. It makes him a more flexible version of Soontir Fel: less predictable and much tankier.

This all adds up to 102 points with my math though, and Predator would make it 101. Maybe I'm missing something though?

Your very right lol, I'd cut swarm tactics then to accommodate the upgrade