Hi there, AGOT lcg experts! Here is my question:

Player 1 is the first player. His declares a military challenge kneeling a single character with Aggo's Bow attached which has the text, "Challenges: ... kneel Aggo's Bow to choose and kill 1 defending character."

Player 2 defends with a few characters including one who has Ice attached, with the text, "Challenges: ... kneel and discard Ice to choose and kill another participating character."

Assuming player 1 wants to kill the character with Ice, and player 2 wants to kill the character with Aggo's Bow, what happens?

My guess is that Player 1 has the first opportunity to take an action so he kills the Ice character, which discards Ice making it moribund. Player 2, I presume, cannot then trigger Ice's effect, since you can't discard an already moribund card.

Thanks guys!

My guess is that Player 1 has the first opportunity to take an action so he kills the Ice character, which discards Ice making it moribund. Player 2, I presume, cannot then trigger Ice's effect, since you can't discard an already moribund card.

It's even simpler than that because moribund doesn't enter this scenario at all.

After defenders are declared, the First Player (whomever it is - the attacker in this example) gets the first chance to trigger a Challenges action. That action goes through the normal six steps (1. Initiate; 2. Save/Cancel; 3. Resolve; 4. Passives; 5. Responses; and 6. End/Clean-up). Any cards that are made moribund because of that action physically leave play in Step 6. Then, the next player has the chance to trigger a Challenges action.

In your example, the Targ attacker triggers Aggo's Bow, killing the character with Ice. Both that character and Ice are physically removed from the table after Responses to Aggo's Bow. Then the Stark player can trigger an action - which isn't going to be Ice because it is sitting in his discard pile.

Remember, moribund only matters during the "passives" and "responses" steps of an action that removes something from play. It never matters when going from one action to another.

With the new edition coming out, thankfully "Moribund" is....about to die?

With the new edition coming out, thankfully "Moribund" is....about to die?

Didn't one of the letters/articles address that? I am too lazy to look it up again.

I'm pretty sure that Nate's original open letter announcing 2.0 and mentioning that the rules would be streamlined cited "moribund" as one of the things that would be changed and/or removed. If not, it was certainly the first thing everyone in the community assumed he meant when he said the rules would be updated to be easier to interpret.