Star Wars: Adult Theme vs All Ages

By Beatty, in Star Wars: Armada

For myself, I've never understood why the Empire can be generaly oppressive, have storm troopers, torture prisioners, and destroy planets, but "sexist" is just comic-book-villin stuff.

It's because next to everything else it makes no sense. It just strikes as me as a petty thing. Why would the Emperor care what gender (or even species) you were if you served him with absolute loyalty? I feels shoe horned in. The movies did a decent job showing the Empire doing it's thing (Lukes Uncle and Aunt are a prime example) and the need to say "Well, they also hate aliens and women too!".

It just feels tacked on and is part of the crappy EU we had for years. It needs to either be rethought or scrapped like the rest of the EU.

I don't think it's tacked on. The Nazis were highly sexist too, and the Empire resembles them a lot. Even today's 'inclusive' military and politics are still highly sexist. And I don't doubt that the Empire was specieist either, see the reaction to Chewbacca and what not.

But I also enjoyed most parts of the Legends EU, where a lot of the speciesism came from. So I'm pretty biased.

I'm glad the New Order seems to be more inclusive. I always like it when bad guys are female. It's so tiring to see the boring old trope that all women are fragile, precious, unfighting creatures.

The reaction to Chewbacca always struck me as the guy literally didn't know what he was. And if that's your case I wish to point out the alien Imperial spy in a new hope whom sold out Han, Luke, Obi-wan before they leave Tatooine. With the universe we have now with the prequels, the Empire couldn't be a "Humans first" society purely due to the fact there are more aliens then humans. You can't favour such a small population over everyone else and expect nothing out of that.

I know the Empire is based on Nazi Germany, but you need to remember it is NOT Nazi Germany. Everyone seems to forget that being based on something doesn't mean it's a 1-1 replica.

I think the in universe logic behind the Empire's specieism in Legends was

1: Humans have the highest population of any sentient species in Star Wars by far. Especially if you count the near human species which are often descended from Humans and either evolved to better fit specific conditions or were genetically engineered for specific traits. (I just don't see humans evolving into Zeltrons happening naturally, I have nothing against the Zeltrons and hope they appear in FFG but to me it just does not make sense for the abilities they have which humans don't to be natural rather then by design.)

2:Most of the Core worlds which are the richest and most powerful worlds in the Republic and later the Empire are primarily populated by Humans and many of the richer and more influential rim worlds were originally colonies of Human worlds.

3: The majority of the Sepratist leadership was alien which caused many of the early Imperial officers to automatically distrust aliens.

That guy in the detention area is a sign of the Empire being specieist? What about Leia's derogatory commentary against Chewbacca? (e.g. "big walking carpet" "I'd rather kiss a Wookiee") As a diplomat, she's supposed to know better.

As Benn Gleck would argue:

The Empire is not specieist in the slightest. It's merely trying to level the playing field after all the damage caused by the Republic. The Republic put aliens on a preferred footing by giving them much more representation than they were due just in order to be politically correct and "inclusive".

The movies are simply part of the propaganda aimed at making humans not be as proud of themselves as they should be, and justifying the hand-outs that aliens used to get under the Republic. Inside every rebel there's a raging bigot just screaming to get out.

Edited by Mikael Hasselstein

That guy in the detention area is a sign of the Empire being specieist? What about Leia's derogatory commentary against Chewbacca? (e.g. "big walking carpet" "I'd rather kiss a Wookiee") As a diplomat, she's supposed to know better.

As Benn Gleck would argue:

The Empire is not specieist in the slightest. It's merely trying to level the playing field after all the damage caused by the Republic. The Republic put aliens on a preferred footing by giving them much more representation than they were due just in order to be politically correct and "inclusive".

The movies are simply part of the propaganda aimed at making humans not be as proud of themselves as they should be, and justifying the hand-outs that aliens used to get under the Republic. Inside every rebel there's a raging bigot just screaming to get out.

Off topic note, your latest story in regards to Darth Vader. You should have just put "Lord Vader" instead of "Lord Darth Vader" in my opinion.

That guy in the detention area is a sign of the Empire being specieist? What about Leia's derogatory commentary against Chewbacca? (e.g. "big walking carpet" "I'd rather kiss a Wookiee") As a diplomat, she's supposed to know better.

As Benn Gleck would argue:

The Empire is not specieist in the slightest. It's merely trying to level the playing field after all the damage caused by the Republic. The Republic put aliens on a preferred footing by giving them much more representation than they were due just in order to be politically correct and "inclusive".

The movies are simply part of the propaganda aimed at making humans not be as proud of themselves as they should be, and justifying the hand-outs that aliens used to get under the Republic. Inside every rebel there's a raging bigot just screaming to get out.

Off topic note, your latest story in regards to Darth Vader. You should have just put "Lord Vader" instead of "Lord Darth Vader" in my opinion.

I agree that it sounds better. However, I'm going with a policy of first mentions and image captions being honorific + full name, and then shortened as appropriate thereafter. That just seems more journalistically apropos to me.

I see. That does make sense.