ABBA feedback

By Proav8r, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Here is a list I plan to test soon, collected from various concepts I have seen thus far. Interested in any glaring holes. Is there enough punch/balance to the list?

A-wing Tycho with Chardaan Refit, A-wing test pilot, PtL and out maneuver (26)

A-wing Green squad pilot with Chardaan Refit and PtL OR Outmaneuver (19)

B-wing X2 Blue Squad. with Advanced Sensors.

Thanks for your feedback.

go with FCS on the B's to free up 2 more points

In my opinion, this won't be competitive. One of the major holes I see is against PS9 arc dodging pilots. You've spent a good amount of points of Tycho, but he falls short against them. A few changing I would consider:

1) I've become a much larger fan of FCS than of AdvS these days. It works great on large based ships, which are rather common these days. They're cheaper as well. I've also found people seem to overuse AdvS to barrel roll and then complain their B wings don't do any damage (without any shot modifiers).

2) To counter the PS9 threat, I would consider dropping outmaneuver in favor of VI. This puts Tycho at PS10, and drops his threat a bit due to the lack of outmaneuver. If we can find a 5th point though, we can add Prockets, which once again makes him deadly.

3) To get a single point, I would consider dropping PTL on the Green to Lone Wolf. More often than not, he is going to be your last survivor, and LW coupled with Focus makes him rather difficult to hit. Now, with 5 points, you can add prockets to Tycho.

3b) Or you can drop the Green down to a Prototype, which gives you a total of 9 points to play with. 5 of them are directly to Tycho for Prockets. Then the remaining 4 can be used to upgrade the Bs. I would suggest either an ion cannon or a tactician on one of them, though you could also go with Jan or even Lando if you're the gambling type and have FUN with that B wing.

Good stuff. Thanks for the thought process. I'm not opposed to going with three B's and one A if that has a competitive advantage.

Something like this?

Tycho Celchu — A-Wing 26

VI

Proton Rockets 3

Prototype Pilot — A-Wing 17

Blue Squadron Pilot — B-Wing 22

Fire-Control System 2

Ion Cannon 3

Blue Squadron Pilot — B-Wing 22

Fire-Control

Edited by Proav8r

for tycho I like to run him heavy, this makes him impossible to catch in an arc and allows him to deal way more damage. but If Tycho is only in your list for a high PS A-Wing consider running a different pilot like jake or even gemmer with VI to free up points

Tycho: 33pts

test pilot

refit

PTL

Dare Devil

experimental interface

it's pricey but makes him scary, han, wedge, soonter will be the big threats for him.

gemmer: 26pts

VI

prockets

gemmer will be at ps 7 and makes him the same cost as a naked Tycho, this frees up 4 points. turn those 4 points to make the blues into daggers to reduce the damage from predetor. also take the prototype pilot and change it to a green squadron pilot with refit as it will be the same cost as a naked proto but PS 3

best ABBA list with tycho:

Tycho: 33pts

test pilot

refit

EI

PTL

DD

GSP: 17pts

refit

x2 Blue squadron 25pts (50pts for both)

ion cannon

best list with Gemmer vice Tycho

Gemmer: 25pts

test pilot

refit

PTL

auto thrusters

GSP: 23pts

test pilot

refit

auto thrusters

PTL

VI

blue sqaud: 25pts

ion cannon

dagger squad: 27pts

ion cannon

you get some decent mid range pilots with this plus having 4 dice with an auto thruster against a turret attack makes gemmer super annoying to track down.

I hope this helps with some ideas for an ABBA list

I like Uncanny Penguin's options. Here's another:

Jake (VI, PTL, Autothrusters, Chardaan, Test Pilot)

Green (PTL, Chardaan)

Dagger (FCS) x2

100 points

So I know this thread is crazy old, but that's what happens when you search before you post. Was toying with an ABBA list tonight and hopefully all the posters on this thread are still active for feedback.

http://xwing-builder.co.uk/view/607953/abba