Online stores don't have rent to pay or offer play space. Support your FLGS.

Meeplemart.com is also a physical shop (in a Toronto shopcenter with that, the rent must be awfully high). So your argument is void.

Most LGS live wealthy just from MTG/D&D sales.

Also, if people are so happy to pay 25-30% more for a product, I will tell them, buy online and give me 15% of that and you can come play all day long at my house (i even supply pretzels/chips). I could make a living just from that money.

Online stores don't have rent to pay or offer play space. Support your FLGS.

Meeplemart.com is also a physical shop (in a Toronto shopcenter with that, the rent must be awfully high). So your argument is void.

Most LGS live wealthy just from MTG/D&D sales.

Also, if people are so happy to pay 25-30% more for a product, I will tell them, buy online and give me 15% of that and you can come play all day long at my house (i even supply pretzels/chips). I could make a living just from that money.

LoL....

Well as long as you put hockey on a big screen, I may just do that...

I started buying online for 2 reasons.

1, my closest FLGS would actually charge more than retail for X-Wing products. The store survived off selling Magic Cards and tried to get greedy selling other stuff. As you can imigane, they are no longer in business.

2, the store I originally went to in the area, but is an hour away, when visited about Armada, the owner told me they weren't sure they were getting into Armada, but had ordered 6 core sets and they all sold in a week. They had no plans at the time to get anymore code sets either.

I wish we had a good FLGS in the area, but the problem is alot of stores pay the bulls with selling Magic Cards, and the other stuff is fluff. I don't live in a big enough town to carry a FLGS, so those in the area have to travel about an hour to a store that wont have all we want in stock and wont hold events, so we end up just playing amongst each other.

I started buying online for 2 reasons.

1, my closest FLGS would actually charge more than retail for X-Wing products. The store survived off selling Magic Cards and tried to get greedy selling other stuff. As you can imigane, they are no longer in business.

2, the store I originally went to in the area, but is an hour away, when visited about Armada, the owner told me they weren't sure they were getting into Armada, but had ordered 6 core sets and they all sold in a week. They had no plans at the time to get anymore code sets either.

I wish we had a good FLGS in the area, but the problem is alot of stores pay the bulls with selling Magic Cards, and the other stuff is fluff. I don't live in a big enough town to carry a FLGS, so those in the area have to travel about an hour to a store that wont have all we want in stock and wont hold events, so we end up just playing amongst each other.

If you don't have a good store locally buy online. Nothing wrong with that.

But if you do. They need your business. MTG may make them money. But like you said, if that's all that's making them money they won't sell much else. And who want's a magic shop?

Online stores don't have rent to pay or offer play space. Support your FLGS.

Meeplemart.com is also a physical shop (in a Toronto shopcenter with that, the rent must be awfully high). So your argument is void.

*edit: Assuming the money makes it to the same pocket. If the person running the play space doesn't see a dime from online purchases, buy from them or don't use their space.

Online stores don't have rent to pay or offer play space. Support your FLGS.

Meeplemart.com is also a physical shop (in a Toronto shopcenter with that, the rent must be awfully high). So your argument is void.

If they have a physical store and offer playspace, buying from their online shop is the same as buying in store. So my argument is not even close to void.

*edit: Assuming the money makes it to the same pocket. If the person running the play space doesn't see a dime from online purchases, buy from them or don't use their space.

They have a physical store and offer playspace (and the physical store owner is the online owner too).

What I am saying is, if they can sell games at online price while renting a place, it means FLGS argument "we can't sell at online price, we have a place to rent" is void.

What I am saying is, if they can sell games at online price while renting a place, it means FLGS argument "we can't sell at online price, we have a place to rent" is void.

Well I don't know how they're able to make it. I've seen the numbers for my FLGS and they would close selling at online prices. They are barely eeking by as it is. So again no it isn't void.

Online stores don't have rent to pay or offer play space. Support your FLGS.

Meeplemart.com is also a physical shop (in a Toronto shopcenter with that, the rent must be awfully high). So your argument is void.

If they have a physical store and offer playspace, buying from their online shop is the same as buying in store. So my argument is not even close to void.

*edit: Assuming the money makes it to the same pocket. If the person running the play space doesn't see a dime from online purchases, buy from them or don't use their space.

They have a physical store and offer playspace (and the physical store owner is the online owner too).

What I am saying is, if they can sell games at online price while renting a place, it means FLGS argument "we can't sell at online price, we have a place to rent" is void.

Maybe they hire less people and the guy works a ton of hours.

My FLGS has no employees, only the owners. And they're there all day everyday(except when the guy is off on deployment, then his SO runs the shop on her own.)

That isn't true everywhere.

What I am saying is, if they can sell games at online price while renting a place, it means FLGS argument "we can't sell at online price, we have a place to rent" is void.

Well I don't know how they're able to make it. I've seen the numbers for my FLGS and they would close selling at online prices. They are barely eeking by as it is. So again no it isn't void.

Are they currently selling at msrp?

its simple guys. If you want your local store to stay open because you play there.... buy from them...even if it is a full msrp. If you dont care about your local store, buy online.

If you cant afford to pay full msrp do one of two things and either buy as much as you can at the store yo help support it and the rest online, or get a real job.

Online stores don't have rent to pay or offer play space. Support your FLGS.

Meeplemart.com is also a physical shop (in a Toronto shopcenter with that, the rent must be awfully high). So your argument is void.

Most LGS live wealthy just from MTG/D&D sales.

Also, if people are so happy to pay 25-30% more for a product, I will tell them, buy online and give me 15% of that and you can come play all day long at my house (i even supply pretzels/chips). I could make a living just from that money.

I started buying online for 2 reasons.

1, my closest FLGS would actually charge more than retail for X-Wing products. The store survived off selling Magic Cards and tried to get greedy selling other stuff. As you can imigane, they are no longer in business.

2, the store I originally went to in the area, but is an hour away, when visited about Armada, the owner told me they weren't sure they were getting into Armada, but had ordered 6 core sets and they all sold in a week. They had no plans at the time to get anymore code sets either.

I wish we had a good FLGS in the area, but the problem is alot of stores pay the bulls with selling Magic Cards, and the other stuff is fluff. I don't live in a big enough town to carry a FLGS, so those in the area have to travel about an hour to a store that wont have all we want in stock and wont hold events, so we end up just playing amongst each other.

I'm in Montreal Canada. MSRP is usually for USD. They have a base mark-up they calculated in order to be able to pay rent, utilities and employees. If they feel they would have a hard time selling something at their mark up they'll sometimes adjust the final price.

They sell the Armada core set for 120CAD. Which is MSRP plus exchange. Which is lower than what they should sell it at.

its simple guys. If you want your local store to stay open because you play there.... buy from them...even if it is a full msrp. If you dont care about your local store, buy online.

If you cant afford to pay full msrp do one of two things and either buy as much as you can at the store yo help support it and the rest online, or get a real job.

What I am saying is, if they can sell games at online price while renting a place, it means FLGS argument "we can't sell at online price, we have a place to rent" is void.

Well I don't know how they're able to make it. I've seen the numbers for my FLGS and they would close selling at online prices. They are barely eeking by as it is. So again no it isn't void.

What I am saying is, if they can sell games at online price while renting a place, it means FLGS argument "we can't sell at online price, we have a place to rent" is void.

Well I don't know how they're able to make it. I've seen the numbers for my FLGS and they would close selling at online prices. They are barely eeking by as it is. So again no it isn't void.

The reason all these online retailers have BM stores is because GW requires it if you want to be able to get their product. They don't care if they break even operating them, because the BM store isn't where their profits come from. REAL BM stores DO get their profits from their BM stores. So no, the argument is not "void". Not when one is someone's livelihood, and the other is just a way to skirt a rule, and isn't even intended to make money. Miniature market did the same thing in St. Louis, but the stores were a joke. And I say stores, because they constantly moved to cheaper and cheaper buildings when they could find it. I'm willing to be meeplemart has moved a time or two already...

its simple guys. If you want your local store to stay open because you play there.... buy from them...even if it is a full msrp. If you dont care about your local store, buy online.

I tend to do both, but what I buy and where depends greatly on how much I'm buying and where I'm playing.

When I got wave 6 for X-Wing I bought it online because online it still came to over $100, that's over $160 MSRP. What my FLGS offers isn't worth that much to me to be honest. But I bought Imperial Assault, the IA expansions and Armada from my local shop.

I've also bought about $250 worth of Flames of War, and $150 of Warmachine from him.

I'll be buying most of my Armada stuff from him, partly because I'm not going to buy $150 worth at a time, and also partly because i've been playing there a lot lately. But odds are I'll never play Armada there, so if I was going to go all in on it at one time I'd buy from MM or CSI.

I don't feel any need to make excuses of justify my decision. It's my money and I'll do what's best for me, however I will factor in what my FLGS offers into the decision. The fact that I've met new people and got to know them a bit is a pretty big benefit of playing at a FLGS

I've started a X-Wing league there, it's going on it's 5th month. In that time he's sold a lot of X-Wing stuff to other people playing in the league and even non X-Wing stuff. So I've actually generated quite a bit of profit for him just by running that league.

Online stores don't have rent to pay or offer play space. Support your FLGS.

Meeplemart.com is also a physical shop (in a Toronto shopcenter with that, the rent must be awfully high). So your argument is void.

If they have a physical store and offer playspace, buying from their online shop is the same as buying in store. So my argument is not even close to void.

*edit: Assuming the money makes it to the same pocket. If the person running the play space doesn't see a dime from online purchases, buy from them or don't use their space.

They have a physical store and offer playspace (and the physical store owner is the online owner too).

What I am saying is, if they can sell games at online price while renting a place, it means FLGS argument "we can't sell at online price, we have a place to rent" is void.

Because every store is financed exactly the same. No differences anywhere. Rent doesn't fluctuate based on location. Not at all. Meeple Mart may just have a huge volume of sales due to a prime location so they can afford to be cheaper.

Maybe they hire less people and the guy works a ton of hours.

My FLGS has no employees, only the owners. And they're there all day everyday(except when the guy is off on deployment, then his SO runs the shop on her own.)

That isn't true everywhere.

What? In what kind of world do you live? Of course rent fluctuate depending of where it is. A rent in a shopping center in middle of Toronto won't cost the same than one in a back-country village. Even different shops in the same shopping center will have different renting price depending of where it is situated in the said shopping center.

You're making some hefty assumptions about the owners character.

I know that Miniature Market also has a physical store. A fairly large one I gather that offers tables for people to play at. So the idea that the only reason online retailers have a BM store is because of GW is simply not true, at least not in every case.

Online stores don't have rent to pay or offer play space. Support your FLGS.

Meeplemart.com is also a physical shop (in a Toronto shopcenter with that, the rent must be awfully high). So your argument is void.

If they have a physical store and offer playspace, buying from their online shop is the same as buying in store. So my argument is not even close to void.

*edit: Assuming the money makes it to the same pocket. If the person running the play space doesn't see a dime from online purchases, buy from them or don't use their space.

They have a physical store and offer playspace (and the physical store owner is the online owner too).

What I am saying is, if they can sell games at online price while renting a place, it means FLGS argument "we can't sell at online price, we have a place to rent" is void.

Because every store is financed exactly the same. No differences anywhere. Rent doesn't fluctuate based on location. Not at all. Meeple Mart may just have a huge volume of sales due to a prime location so they can afford to be cheaper.

Maybe they hire less people and the guy works a ton of hours.

My FLGS has no employees, only the owners. And they're there all day everyday(except when the guy is off on deployment, then his SO runs the shop on her own.)

That isn't true everywhere.

What? In what kind of world do you live? Of course rent fluctuate depending of where it is. A rent in a shopping center in middle of Toronto won't cost the same than one in a back-country village. Even different shops in the same shopping center will have different renting price depending of where it is situated in the said shopping center.

I live in Blatant Sarcasm Land.

I forgot this was the internet.

That post is sarcastic as hell.

its simple guys. If you want your local store to stay open because you play there.... buy from them...even if it is a full msrp. If you dont care about your local store, buy online.

If you cant afford to pay full msrp do one of two things and either buy as much as you can at the store yo help support it and the rest online, or get a real job.

I think some people feel guilty because they know what they are doing, so they try and give reasons (that make no sense) to excuse their behavior. When honestly, all they need to do is shut up and admit they are terrible greedy selfish people.

No, sorry, no place to play worth that I pay an extra 60-100$ per month (yes I spend 200-300$ per month on games) to play 3-4 times per month. It comes down to 15-30$ per gaming session. A community room for 10 persons is 30$ damnit!

So I have no pity for them.

Sorry.

I live in Blatant Sarcasm Land.

I forgot this was the internet.

That post is sarcastic as hell.

You forgot to add the sarcasm quotes

You should edit your post and mention at the end of it that it was sarcasm, because on da internet we do not hear your voice, so we can't guess it is sarcasm.

It comes down to 15-30$ per gaming session. A community room for 10 persons is 30$ damnit!

I agree that's far too much for a place to play. Myself I figure I'm willing to pay $5-10 a month as a 'table fee' by buying stuff at my LGS, that assumes I make it there at least twice a month to play.

to add the sarcasm quotes

I sometimes wonder what is the best form of sarcasm, the ones you know are, or the ones you can't quite decide if they are or aren't...

You're making some hefty assumptions about the owners character.

I know that Miniature Market also has a physical store. A fairly large one I gather that offers tables for people to play at. So the idea that the only reason online retailers have a BM store is because of GW is simply not true, at least not in every case.

That's dated information, they DID have a store with tables, that is not the case anymore. In fact, that was 2 store fronts ago. Game Nite moved into the location that had all the tables.

What I am saying is, if they can sell games at online price while renting a place, it means FLGS argument "we can't sell at online price, we have a place to rent" is void.

Well I don't know how they're able to make it. I've seen the numbers for my FLGS and they would close selling at online prices. They are barely eeking by as it is. So again no it isn't void.

The reason all these online retailers have BM stores is because GW requires it if you want to be able to get their product. They don't care if they break even operating them, because the BM store isn't where their profits come from. REAL BM stores DO get their profits from their BM stores. So no, the argument is not "void". Not when one is someone's livelihood, and the other is just a way to skirt a rule, and isn't even intended to make money. Miniature market did the same thing in St. Louis, but the stores were a joke. And I say stores, because they constantly moved to cheaper and cheaper buildings when they could find it. I'm willing to be meeplemart has moved a time or two already...

Everything I've ever heard about Meeplemart(which is a bizarre amount given that I'm not from Canada) characterizes them as on the up and up. You're making some hefty assumptions about the owners character.

Lets see if I can paraphrase your comment... "I don't really know anything about meeplemart, and I don't live anywhere near them, but they're good guys...". I never said what they were doing was shady, just explaining why online retailers maintain store fronts. Those store fronts don't need to be profitable, because online sales is where they make their money. Several manufacturers (including GW) will not sell wholesale to stores unless they have BM stores. That is the only reason they maintain them. My whole point was saying "meeplemart maintains a store and can still sell at a discount, so everyone should be able to" is ignorant.