It shoves the Starkiller and Rogue Shadow within X-wing doors open pretty wide, even if they were already open.

Uh, no it doesn't.

What we have here is a PS8 TIE advanced pilot. As Vorpal said, Mara Jade does not mean incoming Vong.

Because Jade isn't synonymous with Vong, Where's pretty much every place we see Eclipse includes Starkiller.

But I could care less.

Terrifying news came out of Celebration that Filoni was planning on including the Vong in Clone Wars

http://www.starwarsunderworld.com/2015/04/recap-of-untold-clone-wars-panel-at.html

I would be excited if the Vong were included in the Clone Wars.

Some people sure do seem to get mad about it though.

Starkiller is a pretty polarizing character. I don't mind him, but I know some people get very upset over him and some of the things they did with the TFU storyline.

He's a fairly big Mary Sue, but so is Luke, and Boba among others, so it's not like he's broken some new ground that way.

That said, if he did show up, which in X-wing doesn't make a lot of sense I don't think he ever flew the Rogue Shadow himself. That doesn't mean TFU storyline is canon. I also don't think how bad some people think that storyline is, is enough reason to keep him out of games like X-Wing or Imperial Assault for that matter.

I think people like to misuse the term Mary Sue.

Fett had some pretty cheesy stories, but I don't think I'd call him a Mary Sue

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue

"Mary Sue" today has changed from its original meaning and now carries a generalized, although not universal, connotation of wish-fulfillment and is commonly associated with self-insertion. True self-insertion is a literal and generally undisguised representation of the author; most characters described as "Mary Sues" are not, though they are often called "proxies" for the author. The negative connotation comes from this "wish-fulfillment" implication: the "Mary Sue" is judged as a poorly developed character, too perfect and lacking in realism to be interesting.

Fett is hardly perfect, although he only gets mediocre development

Didn't Starkiller steal a tie fighter at one point? Also, he's too cross factional. Especially if you want to see Kota. Kota was solely rebel.

Kota would probably fly one of the YTs (don't see him as a fighter pilot). He'd be pilot skill 0 and ignore the Critical Hit card Blinded Pilot

That or your opponent would get to choose his maneuvers for you.

Jar Jar Binks is also cannon, where is he?

Obviously I was exxagerating. But it certainly does leave the door open for the option to add Starkiller, Rahm Kota, even Proxy.

So at some point you'll be able to Proxy in an official tournament?

Now that we have Juno in game, that solidifies that TFU 1 and 2 are canon, and Starkiller is now official Lucasfilm Canon. What ship will Starkiller pilot? When will the Rogue Shadow be released? Will proxy be both a crew and a pilot?

Rahm Kota anybody?

I'm being a bit sarcastic here, but it DOES at least open the door to these things. Huge Sam Witwer fan here so I'm excited!

SWtFU is still canon, everything but the games of the past are 2ndary canon. Their is only one thing, or group of things that haverecently been made "non-canon". That is the addons for SWToR. All the other games are stuck in limbo although lots of the writers have already said that the past stuff is canon its just the finedettailes that may become non-canon, and or they will just write stuff hat keps the whole package canon.

The good thing is though a lot of those games have writen versions of them.

Another thing to take into consideration is that only material that is canon, with ultra rare exceptions, are allowed to be made into collectable merchandice. So anything that is made in this game and other ffg sw games as well as hasbro and lego, are canon,

Just a heads up Gen Rhom Kota was at the Battle of Endor as seen in SWBF4, played by the same guy even. Star Kiler has fllowen the Rogue Shadow, so far the only creature that was created using Star Killers dna that has piloted anything else other than the RS is clone 11XX.

Starkillers ability will be awesome! I promise.

Starkillers ability will be awesome! I promise.

If in a squad with Vader when killed starkillers emo clone comes on from your deployment edge when you shout JUNO!

Starkillers ability will be awesome! I promise.

If in a squad with Vader when killed starkillers emo clone comes on from your deployment edge when you shout JUNO!

Didn't Starkiller steal a tie fighter at one point?

Yes. He steals Vader's TIE Advanced during TFU2(or at least, his clone does).

Tell me how and why you found this thread, and why you posted in it.

Tell me how and why you found this thread, and why you posted in it.

...why?

Because I want to know if there are any extenuating circumstances before I go off on a rant about delving into the depths of the forum history and necroing up ancient, forgotten and long resolved threads without good cause. If it was an accident then fair enough, but then I want to know why it's an accident that happens so frequently.

Guys. He acknowledged in the OP that the Canon thing was a joke.

Read people. Read.

He claims it "opens the door for things." It doesn't.

I don't agree.

You are all right that this does not make Juno canon and i think the OP did not express himself very well when he used the word "canon", but since we know that FFG goes on releasing ships that are not canon, and are taken from The EU, or Legends or however you call it, this is somewhat of a hint that they might very well include Starkiller in some ship. This shows that they are considering TFU and its contents for X-Wing and this DOES open the door for more of its content if you ask me.

Now that we have Juno in game, that solidifies that TFU 1 and 2 are canon, and Starkiller is now official Lucasfilm Canon. What ship will Starkiller pilot? When will the Rogue Shadow be released? Will proxy be both a crew and a pilot?

Rahm Kota anybody?

I'm being a bit sarcastic here, but it DOES at least open the door to these things. Huge Sam Witwer fan here so I'm excited!

SWtFU is still canon, everything but the games of the past are 2ndary canon. Their is only one thing, or group of things that haverecently been made "non-canon". That is the addons for SWToR. All the other games are stuck in limbo although lots of the writers have already said that the past stuff is canon its just the finedettailes that may become non-canon, and or they will just write stuff hat keps the whole package canon.

The good thing is though a lot of those games have writen versions of them.

Another thing to take into consideration is that only material that is canon, with ultra rare exceptions, are allowed to be made into collectable merchandice. So anything that is made in this game and other ffg sw games as well as hasbro and lego, are canon,

Just a heads up Gen Rhom Kota was at the Battle of Endor as seen in SWBF4, played by the same guy even. Star Kiler has fllowen the Rogue Shadow, so far the only creature that was created using Star Killers dna that has piloted anything else other than the RS is clone 11XX.

Err... i am not so sure about that. I like the books and also the story of most of the actual games, so i wish you were right. But i think this does not go well with Disneys policy of throwing it all out the window to have less constrictions to bring new content.

I am also not sure if FFG is bound to make collectibles that are canon or would become canon. If we knew that for sure, we would already know what ships tge movies would show us and i highly doubt that...

The one thing that we know is that not a lot of the EU is contradicted by the trailers and teasers till now. We don't know who will be the Alliances counterpart in SW7 yet...

The rebellion is now the resistance because jj has to change stuff for reasons.

delving into the depths of the forum history

A month ago is the depths of history?

How is a speculation thread about a character that hasn't been added to the game yet resolved?

Not sure how it's your business, but no, it's not an accident. I wanted to know what people's thoughts were on Starkiller. So I did a search. Then I read the thread, and saw something I felt like responding to.

Should I have made a new thread about Starkiller when there was already a perfectly good one?

Should I have made a new thread about Starkiller when there was already a perfectly good one?

No, I'm still inbound. This one is just about right.

Should I have made a new thread about Starkiller when there was already a perfectly good one?

Yes, if a thread is dead and gone and nobody's touched it in a month. You don't stick a massive time disjuncture into an old, dead one. This thread was on Page 13.

The only time you'd pull the old thread up is if there was some specific reason you needed to pull that specific thread up: one of Sable's articles for example where the main post itself is what's being discussed. This thread is only three pages long and has no content beyond "will there be a starkiller". There is nothing special about this particular thread that warrants jumping in the DeLorean for it.

The time you don't make a new thread is when there's an active thread running at the same time (ie: on Page 1) if you're asking a specific question and could find the answer with relative ease by searching for it, or when it's your own thread. You don't go digging up other people's for no reason.

Should I have made a new thread about Starkiller when there was already a perfectly good one?

Yes, if a thread is dead and gone and nobody's touched it in a month. You don't stick a massive time disjuncture into an old, dead one.

Well, I don't agree. Search functions exist for a reason. Forums keep old threads for a reason. It's better for people to join and continue an old conversation, than to have the exact same conversation in 20 different threads.

So unless you're a mod, I'm going to have to respectfully decline your directions.

C'mon guys, there's no reason to get bent out of shape here. We know TFU material is inevitable, so you may as well accept it and make your peace.

If you believe that search functions and a lack of autodeletion exist to aid you in raising the dead then you're a lost cause on this front. If you insist on dredging up old threads, go ahead. This forum's unusual in that it isn't against the rules. Just don't be surprised when people respond with posts containing the word "necromancy."

Good grief, get over yourself. Four weeks old is hardly necroing a thread. If it were a four MONTH old thread you start getting into questionable territory. But I would much rather someone dredge up an old thread and make a meaningful post in it than another "me too" post in a recent thread.

Now that we have Juno in game, that solidifies that TFU 1 and 2 are canon, and Starkiller is now official Lucasfilm Canon. What ship will Starkiller pilot? When will the Rogue Shadow be released? Will proxy be both a crew and a pilot?

Rahm Kota anybody?

I'm being a bit sarcastic here, but it DOES at least open the door to these things. Huge Sam Witwer fan here so I'm excited!

SWtFU is still canon, everything but the games of the past are 2ndary canon. Their is only one thing, or group of things that haverecently been made "non-canon". That is the addons for SWToR. All the other games are stuck in limbo although lots of the writers have already said that the past stuff is canon its just the finedettailes that may become non-canon, and or they will just write stuff hat keps the whole package canon.

The good thing is though a lot of those games have writen versions of them.

Another thing to take into consideration is that only material that is canon, with ultra rare exceptions, are allowed to be made into collectable merchandice. So anything that is made in this game and other ffg sw games as well as hasbro and lego, are canon,

Just a heads up Gen Rhom Kota was at the Battle of Endor as seen in SWBF4, played by the same guy even. Star Kiler has fllowen the Rogue Shadow, so far the only creature that was created using Star Killers dna that has piloted anything else other than the RS is clone 11XX.

Err... i am not so sure about that. I like the books and also the story of most of the actual games, so i wish you were right. But i think this does not go well with Disneys policy of throwing it all out the window to have less constrictions to bring new content.

I am also not sure if FFG is bound to make collectibles that are canon or would become canon. If we knew that for sure, we would already know what ships tge movies would show us and i highly doubt that...

The one thing that we know is that not a lot of the EU is contradicted by the trailers and teasers till now. We don't know who will be the Alliances counterpart in SW7 yet...

Disney didnt through everything out the window. Everthing I wrote is taken from people, during Q&As, that make SW stories or approve canon. Like I said, the only things made non-canon in SW is the Old Republic mmorpg addons. This fact was made during the last SW celebration during a Q&A. Everything else is Secondary type A canon. Also I thought I should point out that Legends are still Legends in universe even if the fine details are made incorrect.

Good grief, get over yourself. Four weeks old is hardly necroing a thread. If it were a four MONTH old thread you start getting into questionable territory. But I would much rather someone dredge up an old thread and make a meaningful post in it than another "me too" post in a recent thread.

Most forums actually have a 30 day rule. And was it really a meaningful post? Were it new, relevant information then maybe I'd be less annoyed by it, if other threads weren't dug up at near random twice a week then maybe I'd be less annoyed by it. But it's almost like people are actively looking for threads to dig up.

Most forums actually have a 30 day rule.

Not most of the ones I visit. In fact most of them have a "Use the **** search function before you make a new thread." policy.