Starkiller inbound

By Crabbok, in X-Wing

Now that we have Juno in game, that solidifies that TFU 1 and 2 are canon, and Starkiller is now official Lucasfilm Canon. What ship will Starkiller pilot? When will the Rogue Shadow be released? Will proxy be both a crew and a pilot?

Rahm Kota anybody?

I'm being a bit sarcastic here, but it DOES at least open the door to these things. Huge Sam Witwer fan here so I'm excited!

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This game is Legends. In no way does anything included in this game become canon.

Let me see ... so hard to choose from.

TieDefender ... overpriced.

TieBomber ... ordnance still needs a fix.

Tie Fighter ... to weak.

...

I think I'm going to pilot a Tie Avenger! ;)

It doesn't make TFU canon and it opens the door to nothing. Even if you were to say t recanonises Juno Eclipse that doesn't recanonise TFU any more than recanonising the TIE defender recanonises the TIE fighter game.

Being released in this game does not make something canon.

The 2014 reboot means the only things that are canon are the 6 (soon 7) films, the Clone Wars series, and the Disney Rebels series and novelization.

Even if Juno Eclipse showed up in one of those things, that wouldn't make Starkiller or any of his adventures canon, it would just make Juno Eclipse canon.

Now that we have Juno in game, that solidifies that TFU 1 and 2 are canon

No it doesn't, since games aren't canon. Even in the video games, only the storyline is canon.

Starkiller could be included as a crew, but not as a pilot. He never flew anything that I know of, that was the whole point of Juno afterall.

But even if he is included that doesn't mean TFU will be canon.

I don't think including a pilot in X-wing makes it canon. Even if X-wing is canon, all we know of this Juno Eclipse (not the Legends version) is what FFG wrote in the article.

I'd hazard a guess that Juno's inclusion as an Advanced Pilot makes the Rogue Shadow pretty unlikely for this game. So far, we don't have any pilots that pilot more than one ship. I'd love to be proven wrong though; The Force Unleashed was awesome.

Guys. He acknowledged in the OP that the Canon thing was a joke.

Read people. Read.

I don't think including a pilot in X-wing makes it canon. Even if X-wing is canon, all we know of this Juno Eclipse (not the Legends version) is what FFG wrote in the article.

Right. If the game were considered canon, all it would do is confirm that there's a TIE Advanced pilot named Juno Eclipse.

The logic in the OP would have a lot of interesting consequences, including the idea that since Mara Jade is included in the game, every event and character in every novel or comic featuring Mara Jade (including the Yuuzhan Vong invasion) is now re-canonized. I think it's safe to say that's not the case.

Guys. He acknowledged in the OP that the Canon thing was a joke.

Read people. Read.

He claims it "opens the door for things." It doesn't.

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Didn't Starkiller steal a tie fighter at one point? Also, he's too cross factional. Especially if you want to see Kota. Kota was solely rebel.

Guys. He acknowledged in the OP that the Canon thing was a joke.

Read people. Read.

He claims it "opens the door for things." It doesn't.

We all got trolled by a spoiler tag.

Congrats Crabbok, you are a gold-certified troll.

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It shoves the Starkiller and Rogue Shadow within X-wing doors open pretty wide, even if they were already open.

Uh, no it doesn't.

What we have here is a PS8 TIE advanced pilot. As Vorpal said, Mara Jade does not mean incoming Vong.

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We would be more likely to see Starkiller in Imperial Assault. He was more of a ground combatant anyway, and I haven't played it yet, but the side mission looking things that unlock options could be a great way to work his dual faction status in.

Some of you guys sound mad. Just accept the fact that we're getting a Rogue Shadow, and you'll be all the happier for it.

It shoves the Starkiller and Rogue Shadow within X-wing doors open pretty wide, even if they were already open.

Uh, no it doesn't.

What we have here is a PS8 TIE advanced pilot. As Vorpal said, Mara Jade does not mean incoming Vong.

Because Jade isn't synonymous with Vong, Where's pretty much every place we see Eclipse includes Starkiller.

But I could care less.

It shoves the Starkiller and Rogue Shadow within X-wing doors open pretty wide, even if they were already open.

Uh, no it doesn't.

What we have here is a PS8 TIE advanced pilot. As Vorpal said, Mara Jade does not mean incoming Vong.

Because Jade isn't synonymous with Vong, Where's pretty much every place we see Eclipse includes Starkiller.

But I could care less.

This, in case anyone was wondering, is why the spoiler tag doesn't matter. Even if Crabbok is kidding as far as the silly logic is concerned (and the "opens the door" bit implies that he's at least... illogicurious), there's always Poe's Law to be concerned with.

Obviously I was exxagerating. But it certainly does leave the door open for the option to add Starkiller, Rahm Kota, even Proxy. It doesn't mean they HAVE to add them, but it is certainly an option now that we have a character from that gamein X-Wing.

Some people sure do seem to get mad about it though. People just need to relax. it could just as easily mean that we'll NEVER see Starkiller, because you could make the argument that since they put Juno on an Advanced, that they now cannot also put her in the Rogue Shadow, thus no TFU expansion. Either argument has merit, I just think it is an entertaining discussion to have. Certainly more interesting that "No, there is no open door".

The last time some poor fool made an absolutist declaration here, he wound up loosing a bet over S&V. Never say never... again.

Yeah but as many other people have pointed out, We have Mara Jade but no Talon Karde or Thrawn so I do not see Starkiller anytime soon either.

Some people sure do seem to get mad about it though.

Starkiller is a pretty polarizing character. I don't mind him, but I know some people get very upset over him and some of the things they did with the TFU storyline.

He's a fairly big Mary Sue, but so is Luke, and Boba among others, so it's not like he's broken some new ground that way.

That said, if he did show up, which in X-wing doesn't make a lot of sense I don't think he ever flew the Rogue Shadow himself. That doesn't mean TFU storyline is canon. I also don't think how bad some people think that storyline is, is enough reason to keep him out of games like X-Wing or Imperial Assault for that matter.

It shoves the Starkiller and Rogue Shadow within X-wing doors open pretty wide, even if they were already open.

Uh, no it doesn't.

What we have here is a PS8 TIE advanced pilot. As Vorpal said, Mara Jade does not mean incoming Vong.

Because Jade isn't synonymous with Vong, Where's pretty much every place we see Eclipse includes Starkiller.

But I could care less.

Terrifying news came out of Celebration that Filoni was planning on including the Vong in Clone Wars

http://www.starwarsunderworld.com/2015/04/recap-of-untold-clone-wars-panel-at.html

Yeah but as many other people have pointed out, We have Mara Jade but no Talon Karde or Thrawn so I do not see Starkiller anytime soon either.

Sure we haven't seen seen those guys... yet... but I think popularity drives some of the decision making in these cases. You coudl argue that there are dozens of characters that were more important to include besides Dash Rendar, but his ONE book was popular, so there ya go. Additionally, Juno wasn't just in the same story as Starkiller, they were close. Very close. Their story is intertwined. You really can't think of Juno without thinking of Starkiller. It's different than Mara Jade and the Vongm as those two aren't really exclusive to each other. A better example might be Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors. Starkiller could be the Empire's Kyle Katarn.

I'm just saying there's a chance.