Juno absolutely crushes the biggest problem with the advanced (post Tie X1) and that is a weak dial. She will be like flying an interceptor or A-Wing with options out the wazoo!

Eh. Imo, the Tie/x1 title and ATC/AC crush the biggest problem with the Tie Advance (it's a malformed X-wing that hits like a tie fighter)

Now that damage isn't so much an issue, its sturdy profile and action bar (plus ridic abilities) can start to shine

Fickle just fcs on the PS3.

This could work, but FCS is definitely a sub-optimal system to put on these guys

FCS + Cluster missiles is pretty sweet though. Colzen + FCS + Cluster Missiles = 27 points.

You can get a TL for the second attack. Then get another TL for crit flipping fun.

Is everyone forgetting that they only throw 2 dice without ATC?

Is everyone forgetting that they only throw 2 dice without ATC?

With ATC they're already doing better damage than any 3 attack ship.

(Average of 1 and a crit+ which is slightly better than the 2.x that a three attack ship gets with a target lock.)

Beyond that because they hold the TL rather than using it they'll have focuses to mod many of their attacks.

Ok so did anyone else notice they said "the imperial raider is on its way to retailers everywhere"? If so that means June well get! However they still haven't updated it from "at the printer". Also another question, they said it will have an alternate paint scheme and even show a 360 view of the new advanced but am I missing something or is it the same exact color scheme as the original? I'm really not seeing any color differences.

Is everyone forgetting that they only throw 2 dice without ATC?

Why are you not taking the stupidly cheap ATC? You also have accuracy corrector? This ship won't be throwing 2x dice often...

Buzzkiller...

Maybe it's darker? I think it's just darker. Still sweet

I need it nao!!!! Haha Im gonna have to play test these ships!

Ok so did anyone else notice they said "the imperial raider is on its way to retailers everywhere"? If so that means June well get! However they still haven't updated it from "at the printer". Also another question, they said it will have an alternate paint scheme and even show a 360 view of the new advanced but am I missing something or is it the same exact color scheme as the original? I'm really not seeing any color differences.

This one is blueish...the original paint scheme is more of a white...

Is everyone forgetting that they only throw 2 dice without ATC?

No. But 2 attack never stopped me from loving the A-wing, so I don't see why I'd feel any different about the new Advanced.

Yea... I have played tie fighters plus I ran Vader in my SC list. 2 dice isn't a reason to not take a ship lol. They were weak but not unusable and now they will be good even without AC it ATC.

Sensor jammer tanks anyone?

Is everyone forgetting that they only throw 2 dice without ATC?

No we aren't.

With ATC they're already doing better damage than any 3 attack ship.

(Average of 1 and a crit+ which is slightly better than the 2.x that a three attack ship gets with a target lock.)

Beyond that because they hold the TL rather than using it they'll have focuses to mod many of their attacks.

ATC does slightly better damage than 3 Attack, on a turn where you have a TL and are able to modify your dice without spending it. In play, that's actually a lot of constraints unless you're Vader.

Is everyone forgetting that they only throw 2 dice without ATC?

No we aren't.With ATC they're already doing better damage than any 3 attack ship.(Average of 1 and a crit+ which is slightly better than the 2.x that a three attack ship gets with a target lock.)Beyond that because they hold the TL rather than using it they'll have focuses to mod many of their attacks.

ATC does slightly better damage than 3 Attack, on a turn where you have a TL and are able to modify your dice without spending it. In play, that's actually a lot of constraints unless you're Vader.

Or build a list designed to support your abilities.

And again.

1 hit 1 crit is still A fantastic average.

Well, perhaps I am quite strange person, or simply too old.

I quit playing warhammer 40.000 after 5 diferent editions. Bikes are nerds...now are the best...now are quite useless...now they are on top...etc.

Superb pilot plus unique superb dial? Buy this 100 euro huge ship...because a superb dial is included for this top gun pilot!!!

No thanks... I will purchase the Raider plus Tantine, but not because here started the "unique dials" race. I am too old... I will stick to Red x wings an Sabre Interceptors

It sounds like you haven't actually read the article.

Well, perhaps I am quite strange person, or simply too old.

I quit playing warhammer 40.000 after 5 diferent editions. Bikes are nerds...now are the best...now are quite useless...now they are on top...etc.

Superb pilot plus unique superb dial? Buy this 100 euro huge ship...because a superb dial is included for this top gun pilot!!!

No thanks... I will purchase the Raider plus Tantine, but not because here started the "unique dials" race. I am too old... I will stick to Red x wings an Sabre Interceptors

It sounds like you haven't actually read the article.

Chill. There's no custom cardboard. Just a good pilot ability.

I think alot of ppl are overlooking something with Juno, her dial isnt as good as ppl are getting excited about. In order to get the green 2 bank you have to pick the green 1 bank then change it, you cant just pick the 2 bank and it magically becomes green.

Vader or Juno with RAC is gonna be a thing.

I kind of wish VI didnt exist, but thats a whole thread on its own.

Somewhere in the universe Kir Kanos is getting really upset. Everybody gets EPT's except for him

So, Juno with stay on target?

Would it stack? Which would you have to do first?

It should, because your giving up your EPT for something that could be better.

So, Juno with stay on target?

Would it stack? Which would you have to do first?

It should, because your giving up your EPT for something that could be better.

Correct me if I am wrong but it appears not to matter which one happens first. The maneuver still ends up red either way you take it.

EDIT- Ahh but I do see that it could limit the maneuver type depending on which has to happen first.

It should, because your giving up your EPT for something that could be better.

Correct me if I am wrong but it appears not to matter which one happens first. The maneuver still ends up red either way you take it.

Hmm, I think your right.

I think alot of ppl are overlooking something with Juno, her dial isnt as good as ppl are getting excited about.

Actually it is quite good.

She gets 1 turns and a green 1 straight. She can take 2 banks and a 4 straight as green. A 3, 4 and 5 K-turn.

She will have access to every maneuver there is in the game. She has a better dial than an Interceptor or A-Wing. How exactly is that not a good dial?

Yes it will require some forethought on your part, if you want a green or not. Which is why I'm not sure PtL is the best option. But she clearly has the potential for the best dial in the game

She lacks.. Uhh...

a 2k turn! The banked K turns! a stop maneuver! A 1 k turn! A 0k turn!

...

yeah, she pretty much has every single maneuver down.

I think alot of ppl are overlooking something with Juno, her dial isnt as good as ppl are getting excited about.

Actually it is quite good.

She gets 1 turns and a green 1 straight. She can take 2 banks and a 4 straight as green. A 3, 4 and 5 K-turn.

She will have access to every maneuver there is in the game. She has a better dial than an Interceptor or A-Wing. How exactly is that not a good dial?

Yes it will require some forethought on your part, if you want a green or not. Which is why I'm not sure PtL is the best option. But she clearly has the potential for the best dial in the game

She doesn't have a 0 stop =P

[edit] or an S loop!

I think alot of ppl are overlooking something with Juno, her dial isnt as good as ppl are getting excited about. In order to get the green 2 bank you have to pick the green 1 bank then change it, you cant just pick the 2 bank and it magically becomes green.

So? The fact that she even has the option over normal Advanced is great. You don't always need to take a green, in which case pick the normal white 2-turn and modify from there, but if you need to take a green, but the normal greens aren't going to position you where you need to go, you have options. It's all about options.

I found with the Tie Advanced it was annoying to fly them in formation with Tie Fighters. With Juno you could plug her right in there beside Howl Runner.

I found with the Tie Advanced it was annoying to fly them in formation with Tie Fighters. With Juno you could plug her right in there beside Howl Runner.

Imperial girl list begun!

Ok so did anyone else notice they said "the imperial raider is on its way to retailers everywhere"? If so that means June well get! However they still haven't updated it from "at the printer". Also another question, they said it will have an alternate paint scheme and even show a 360 view of the new advanced but am I missing something or is it the same exact color scheme as the original? I'm really not seeing any color differences.

The original model was the grey and black scheme like the regular Ties. The new model is more the blue/gray like the Phantom/Defender.