If I sacrificed a goat in order to roll better, is that cheating?

Im leaving to goto a regional, so Im getting ready,and well I found this baby goat... no. no I did not. My question is not if you consider X cheating (which is always fun to talk about), but have you ever had to call a TO other then make a range question, or quick ruling? Has your opponent ever said one action, placed the token, and asked for a take back and you denied him?

I was at a tournament once where a guy kept all of his dice in front of him on the evade side. I also went to a tournament where in the middle of our playing my opponent apologizes and runs to the bathroom (it was at Gen con, so bathrooms werent a stone throw away). Many times someone places an evade token, or a focus and asks for a redo... These were moments I decided to do nothing, and nothing bad happened except I got to enjoy myself and have fun (I have fun beating my opponents).

So, I had a phantom during a recent tourny. My opponent was a kid (12 maybe? I cant tell.) and just got attacked by my phantom (my lowest Pilot skill with a shot, and he didnt have anything with a target). I forgot to cloak while we were already setting dials (as in I just picked them up, look at all of my guys and notice a missing cloak token...) I asked my opponent if its ok if I go ahead and put the token on, to which he thinks about it and studies the board, then tells me no, that it was my mistake. Being a bit older then this kid, and having played this game for a while I knew I hadnt removed my focus tokens and I never verbally said I was done (I merely picked up my dials).

I was expecting him to say it would be ok, especially since he had just placed his br template down next to his ship before deciding not to (it was an obvious bad play) but his abrupt no kind of caught me. I nodded my head at his denial and made sure to do everything by the book. Later in the game he revealed a dial that was perfectly centered between two moves. It was obvious he didnt want to run into the asteroid, so I explained to him how I get to choose between the two maneuvers (which made me feel horrible to say those words). He instead moved it where he intended to go. I was very close to calling the TO however it was obvious he was going to die from my phantom.

I apologized afterward and explained to him that if he set a rigid no mistake mood then he had better expect the same treatment.

Now going back to the question, what have you called a TO over for?

I saw a guy make it to the 5th round using an illegal list before someone called a TO.

Have you seen a TO called on a moment that was just pure silly?

I sacrifice lambs works 50% of the time

with the cloak token your opponent had every right to say no as you had every right to call over the TO for his dial.

In tournaments Fly Casual can go out the Window it's up to individuals how far out the Window it goes

This is why I always confirm with my partner that we're both ready to enter the next phase or turn. Once in agreement then no changes can be made, it's fair to both parties.

EDIT: It's especially important when someone is moving multiple ships at the same pilot skill, since they may choose to move all ships first then assign actions to save time.

Sacrificing a Gungan seems to please the dice gods.. and truth be told, I rather enjoy it myself as well.

I disagreed with my opponent at a SC last month that his maneuver he chose was illegal. We had his Bounty Hunter directly facing and touching my Biggs. Because nubs were involved, a 1 straight maneuver would end with him bumping. He disagreed and said he's be happy to call the TO over. I decided against it because I wanted to play it through as quickly as possible. I should have called over the TO. I won that match but I could have won better had we played that correctly.

My first match in that tournament I did call the TO over because my opponent and I generally had no clue if it was a legal thing. I wondered if Corran Horn can check for range and firing arc during the End Phase without declaring an attack or if he had to commit. It was ruled that I could freely measure. Didn't matter for that round as it turns out I had no shot.

Don't tell PETA.

I usually do blood pacts with dice gods for better rolls, except the 8-sided dice god is a pain to find.

It's probably best to stick rigidly to the rules at a tournament. Fly casual is the best way to play the game without a doubt, but it only works if both players play that way.

As for your goat, sacrifice it; you'll always be able to make a lovely Qubuli Pulao even if the dice Gods deem your offering unacceptable.

Cheers

Baaa

I've played a lot of tournaments and have yet to experience anyone calling over a TO.

Personally, when it comes to missed opportunities or wanting to change an action or choice, my restriction is entirely information based. In that if new information has been gained since that action or choice was made, then it is too late to change it. That could be information such as from other dials being revealed, other actions being done, dice being rolled, or distances being measured (which is why target lock range, barrel rolls and boosts are binding). If that is not the case, then I have no problem with anyone changing their choice or fixing a missed opportunity.

Sometimes I'm even okay with an opponent fixing a mixed opportunity even if there has been new information since, if it is clear that their missed opportunity would be the same regardless of information or not (that goes especially for those start-of-combat phase that so often get rushed past).

with the cloak token your opponent had every right to say no

As I'm not familiar with X-Wing tournament rules (so far there have been none in my area ):

Are there any formal announcements required for moving between phases?

Are you in any way forbidden to touch your dials after you have revealed them until it is time to set them up again ?

Wait? You were meant to sacrifice the goat? I really must have read that manual wrong. >_>; XD

In all seriousness, I haven't been to a tourney yet, I play with some semi serious games with friends and I often like to be correct with rules to make a habit of it. When I used to play Yu-Gi-Oh competitively I was always conscious of rulings and I would call a judge over if I believed in any foul play, or rulings. It didn't help that It was fairly poorly written thus rulings about timings and responces were difficult, thus it was even more important to remain aware. That being said, the times that I stopped play for that are fairly few and far between, I played because I enjoyed setting up combos and watching their defense crumple. Something I imagine I would enjoy here.

If I sacrificed a goat in order to roll better, is that cheating?

Personally I prefer chickens - mainly for the taste.

At tournaments I generally a bit hard at first but if my opponent is happy to fly casual then I'll loosen up bit.

Had to call a TO over once because my opponent took issue to me using a laser line to see if a ship was in arc or needed to boost

Heretic! Abandon your heathen gods and worship the dice gods, all they ask of you is the eating of cheesy snacks and consumption of fizzy beverages.

Had to call a TO over once because my opponent took issue to me using a laser line to see if a ship was in arc or needed to boost

You called over a TO because your opponent wouldn't allow you to make an illegal measurement?

Well there are no shortage of virgins to sacrifice at tournaments...,

One of my favorite tournament moments happened at last years regionals. The game next to me was pretty close, a few b wings against some x wings. Guy with the b-wings is on a roll, marching forward. He flips a dial, and says "advanced sensors" and x wing guy (instantaequitas here on the forums) stops him dead and says that advanced sensors has to be used before the dial reveal.

B-wing guy loses it. Proceeds to completely flub the match.

I have never had any reason to question my opponent's play style (other than its effectiveness... and I kept that to myself), actions or behavior (though I have seen some at tournaments, just never had to face them). I have never had reason to ask a TO much of anything other than "who do I face next, where and when?" Then, again, I do not go to a lot of tournaments, mostly just local stuff and the players around here are pretty laid back and enjoyable to interact with.

and that being said, to clarify my stance though I often am quite focused on playing by the rules, for less experienced players I am more but content to handwave It after stating how it normally works.

Well there are no shortage of virgins to sacrifice at tournaments...,

That's 40k players

I had a situation regarding Guri and her ability which grants a focus token if within range 1 of an enemy ship at the start of the firing phase.

We had all moved, agreed that all actions were taken and then, whilst I was reaching for my focus token, my opponent had rolled his PS9 Soontir Fel attack dice against Guri.

Now, the issue is this: He chose to shoot Guri because she had no tokens (apart from a TL), however she WOULD have had a token if my opponent had allowed me to put one next to her. I explained that she would of had a token as it is at the start of the phase but then I was hit with the "missed opportunity" rule. I was a little miffed as it was actually my opponent which caused me to miss my opportunity. TO was called, couldn't make a decision because it was a he said, I said situation and the opportunity was missed. Sucks.

After the attack and the stubborn nature of my opponent, I successfully evaded and shot another target, luckily I didn't need the focus anyway but after that it kind of ruined the game. I started putting the focus token on after I had done my action on Guri instead of at the start of the phase to which this then got called on. Started an argument and then when I managed to win, he stormed off.

Confronted the guy afterwards and asked why he kept forcing me to miss opportunities and would he do the same to someone using Roark for example, he said he wasn't at fault and I should have thrown the token down as soon as Soontir had finished.

I had a situation regarding Guri and her ability which grants a focus token if within range 1 of an enemy ship at the start of the firing phase.

We had all moved, agreed that all actions were taken and then, whilst I was reaching for my focus token, my opponent had rolled his PS9 Soontir Fel attack dice against Guri.

Now, the issue is this: He chose to shoot Guri because she had no tokens (apart from a TL), however she WOULD have had a token if my opponent had allowed me to put one next to her. I explained that she would of had a token as it is at the start of the phase but then I was hit with the "missed opportunity" rule. I was a little miffed as it was actually my opponent which caused me to miss my opportunity. TO was called, couldn't make a decision because it was a he said, I said situation and the opportunity was missed. Sucks.

After the attack and the stubborn nature of my opponent, I successfully evaded and shot another target, luckily I didn't need the focus anyway but after that it kind of ruined the game. I started putting the focus token on after I had done my action on Guri instead of at the start of the phase to which this then got called on. Started an argument and then when I managed to win, he stormed off.

Confronted the guy afterwards and asked why he kept forcing me to miss opportunities and would he do the same to someone using Roark for example, he said he wasn't at fault and I should have thrown the token down as soon as Soontir had finished.

Sadly seems you played a WaaC player, they are unpleasant people that suck the fun out of all games.

Sacrificing a Gungan seems to please the dice gods.. and truth be told, I rather enjoy it myself as well.

I believe it is one specifik Gungan, right?

Who-ever is shooting first in the Combat Phase has a responsibility to not out-rush past the abilities trigger at the start of that phase.

Personally, to keep both the game's momentum but without forcing people to miss opportunities, I always ask my opponent about whether he wants to use this or that ability of his before I start my attack.