Imperial Entanglements Teaser

By voidreturn, in X-Wing

It also seems to be mounted onto a TIE Aggressor, which is an interesting choice.

Which all means NOTHING for X-Wing. The Star Wars LCG is a totally different game.

That is true, it is a different game. However, Fantasy Flight DOES have a modus operandi of reusing art assets between the separate game lines.

Looks like starfighters in the new LCG expansion get a new enhancement: Enhanced Laser Canon.

It appears to turn primary attacks into something resembling auto-blasters.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2015/4/28/imperial-entanglements/

Don't even TRY to begin to apply LCG mechanics to this game. I play the LCG. You just cannot do it.

The thing to notice, is that they are using the TIE Aggressor.

Edited by Sithborg

Yep; this artwork definitely raises my speculation antennae

When did cloud city get a pyramid?

Which all means NOTHING for X-Wing. The Star Wars LCG is a totally different game.

You must be new here. If you recall I predicted Scum faction just before it was announced by analyzing FFG's usage of LFL assets.

Based on that, there is a reasonable argument to be made that we may see this in X-Wing.

Eh, we Imps already have a solid turret-primary.

That said, a ship with a Turret upgrade slot could be interesting...

There is also precedent for small-base primary turrets now. Not that I'm a fan of the Oppressor (?). But yeah, seems more likely than before for a future wave.

The thing to notice, is that they are using the TIE Aggressor.

Agreed - this is very much the "thing to notice", here.

And it makes sense, too, given the Rebels just got the first "small base" ship with a build-in 360 arc in wave 7 via the K-Wing. So the concept is already out there - this wouldn't be breaking new ground.

Especially in the face of the K-Wing, you're not wrong.

That said, would the Aggressor have a turret primary, or a turret upgrade slot like the Y-Wing?

Especially in the face of the K-Wing, you're not wrong.

That said, would the Aggressor have a turret primary, or a turret upgrade slot like the Y-Wing?

While I'm not overly familiar with the ship, the wiki page for it shows that it is rear mounted to defend against pursuers. That might imply a rear secondary arc on a small ship!

The article isn't clear whether this was the primary weapon or not though.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TIE/AG_Aggressor_starfighter

Especially in the face of the K-Wing, you're not wrong.

That said, would the Aggressor have a turret primary, or a turret upgrade slot like the Y-Wing?

While I'm not overly familiar with the ship, the wiki page for it shows that it is rear mounted to defend against pursuers. That might imply a rear secondary arc on a small ship!

The article isn't clear whether this was the primary weapon or not though.http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TIE/AG_Aggressor_starfighter

And that's the basis of my query. The Y-Wing came quite standard with a turret, but it's an upgrade slot (like the Defender, granted), so an Aggressor would be fun but I wouldn't be surprised if it had a standard 2 ATK firing arc with a turret upgrade capacity.

Which all means NOTHING for X-Wing. The Star Wars LCG is a totally different game.

You must be new here. If you recall I predicted Scum faction just before it was announced by analyzing FFG's usage of LFL assets.

Based on that, there is a reasonable argument to be made that we may see this in X-Wing.

Yeah, totally new. Hardly played the game really. Barely any experience at all.

Does the aggressor have a turret underneath too? I ask because I notice the wings aren't complete underneath.

Which all means NOTHING for X-Wing. The Star Wars LCG is a totally different game.

You must be new here. If you recall I predicted Scum faction just before it was announced by analyzing FFG's usage of LFL assets.

Based on that, there is a reasonable argument to be made that we may see this in X-Wing.

Y'know, I was going to say something along the lines of "Yes, which is why we now can play the Yevethan D-Fighter", but to be honest, it's not that far-fetched for them to eventually do the Aggressor.

I say this not because the ship is now on official card art, but because of several observations:

They've started using Star Wars Galaxies designs (VT-49 Decimator, Scyk Fighter, Rihxrkwhyx-whatever-it's-called)

Ships that have been observed in cards sometimes appear in the game (the Scyk was observed on Intimidation, then was made as a part of Wave 6)

It has potential for bringing a unique feature to the table (the first small ship with a rear aux arc, or the first Imperial small-base ship with a turret)

That is true, it is a different game. However, Fantasy Flight DOES have a modus operandi of reusing art assets between the separate game lines.

Again, that means nothing. They do (and I think should) re-use art.

That doesn't mean that available art drives game design in any way. There are a lot of pieces of art in their library, and they re-use them. It doesn't offer any sort of predictive capabilities based on re-usable art.

You are mistaking the correlation (similar art) as a causal link. It's a super common misconception.

That is true, it is a different game. However, Fantasy Flight DOES have a modus operandi of reusing art assets between the separate game lines.

Again, that means nothing. They do (and I think should) re-use art.

That doesn't mean that available art drives game design in any way. There are a lot of pieces of art in their library, and they re-use them. It doesn't offer any sort of predictive capabilities based on re-usable art.

You are mistaking the correlation (similar art) as a causal link. It's a super common misconception.

The LCG, like the RPG, has just about everything in it. They've got a lot more freedom (and need it to make all those cards). Note how the Interdictor's fine in Stay on Target, but when they want to release it as a ship with Interdictor written on the box it changes to Punisher.

That is true, it is a different game. However, Fantasy Flight DOES have a modus operandi of reusing art assets between the separate game lines.

Again, that means nothing. They do (and I think should) re-use art.

That doesn't mean that available art drives game design in any way. There are a lot of pieces of art in their library, and they re-use them. It doesn't offer any sort of predictive capabilities based on re-usable art.

You are mistaking the correlation (similar art) as a causal link. It's a super common misconception.

There are OTHER factors that lead me to believe that an oppressor is incoming. It adds a new 'trick' to a small based ship, I would say, a secondary arc for a small ship, rather than a full turret. This is also something that one of the Episode VII Teaser First Order TIEs is rumoured to do - fire backwards. Testing out how this works on the Oppressor BEFORE doing any Episode VII vessels (if incoming) is also a good tactic, as it smooths out any potential issues before a major marketing crossover is implemented.

So, while the art is not a guarantee, it does put the Oppressor further up the potential list, coupled with a new trick for the empire, and potential ability for a future TIE craft from episode VII, I expect an oppressor for wave 8, unless wave 8 is the episode VII debut - which may not happen, as there may be an episode VII second edition x-wing game happening (pure speculation)

Edited by That Blasted Samophlange

Yep; this artwork definitely raises my speculation antennae

I wondered that that was.

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Haha! It IS the TIE Aggressor!

We NEED to get this ship for X-Wing!

Also if your eye was so keen, you would see that the Decimator is now being included in the LCG. Clearly driven that way because of its presence in Xwing.

*sigh*

I hear your local tarot reader can help dig up information on wave 8 too. That's about as useful. Maybe 1-900-dial-a-psychic.