Oh, and a four-Scyk (using Manglers) list went 4-2, and was playing on the top three or four tables for a while!
I do feel the Scyk list really does deserve a shout out (Serissu with VI, Hull, Mangle and then the Cartel Spacers with Hull and Mangle) as it was probably the most unique list there and was fighting its last game to try and get into top 8 and just barely missed top 16 (17th).
Oh, and a four-Scyk (using Manglers) list went 4-2, and was playing on the top three or four tables for a while!
I do feel the Scyk list really does deserve a shout out (Serissu with VI, Hull, Mangle and then the Cartel Spacers with Hull and Mangle) as it was probably the most unique list there and was fighting its last game to try and get into top 8 and just barely missed top 16 (17th).
Yep. Until he pasted me in round 5 I was on track to make the cut with Dash and Corran. I still don't understand how he got me, but he thrashed me soundly. I was cheering for him to win round 6 and make the cut, but apparently it was not to be. (I ended up at 11th with a 4-2 record.)
Updated the Sacramento Regionals top 8 in the original thread. Posted here again for reference. Thanks for all the info guys.
and I was rooting for the Scyk list too, So cool.
1. Gus Vogel - Howlrunner (Predator, Hull), Black Squadron (DtF), 5xAP
2. Jeff Wilder (dropped), so Noel Cuevas moved up with Chewbacca (Pred, Gunner/Luke?, C3PO, MF, Engine), 3xTala
3. Daniel Walker - Han with Predator, Luke, C3PO, MF, Engine, Jake with PTL, VI, Prockets, Autothrusters, Title
4. Jason Phillips - dual decimator, Oicunn mara jade vader, RAC VI Captive Jerjerood
5. Jonathan Colling - Chiraneau (Pred, Gunner, Ysanne, Captive, Engine) and Fel (PtL, RGT, Autothrusters, Stealth)
6. Garrett Jost - Soontir Fel (PtL, AT, HU), 5xOSP
7. Nicholas Vielleux - Han with C3PO, R2D2, MF Title, Etahn with Predator, R5-P9, Shield Upgrade, and Advanced Sensors
8. Ron McKelvey - ChiraFel
Soooo many turrets.
Soooo many turrets.
Sooo many turrets
almost
won
oh they've won, just not this specific regional where they took every top 8 slot except for 1 and 6
Daniel Walker, Gus Vogel and Jason Phillips are friends of mine and are very good players in the local scene. Great to see 3 players from the store I play at (Game Kastle in Santa Clara) make the top 8. In fact Jason had never beaten Gus before that match in the final four. Hell of a time to get your first win against someone.
oh they've won, just not this specific regional where they took every top 8 slot except for 1 and 6
They only took that many slots because people brought that many to the tournament. Plus, one person who made the top 8 without a turret dropped, allowing another turret list to continue on. So, 3/8 non-turrets in a heavy turret meta is actually a great argument for using non-turrets.
Auckland X-Wing Regional Tournament top 8:
Top 8
1: H Akari VS G Gartland - Match Results: H Akari is the winner 100 to 0
2: C Penny VS C Saunders - Match Results: C Saunders is the winner 0 to 100
3: D Lewy VS A Wong - Match Results: A Wong is the winner 48 to 100
4: L Heley VS C Palmer - Match Results: L Heley is the winner 100 to 25
Top 4
1: H Akari VS C Saunders - Match Results: H Akari is the winner 100 to 52
2: A Wong VS L Heley - Match Results: A Wong is the winner 100 to 75
Top 2
1: H Akari VS A Wong - Match Results: H Akari is the winner 100 to 0
Final Positions and lists:
1st
Henare Akari
- Rebels 100 points
Chewbacca - YT-1300, Push the Limit, Kyle Katarn, Jan Ors, Millenium Falcon, Tactical Jammer.
Leebo - YT-2400, Recon Specialist, Wingman, Mangler Cannon, Outrider.
2nd A Wong - Scum and Villainy 100 points
Kath Scarlet - Firespray-31, Veteran Instincts, K4-Security Droid, Inertial Dampeners, Engine Upgrade, Ion Cannon, Seismic Charges.
Syndicate Thug - Y-wing, Ion cannon turret, Unhinged Astromech, BTL-A4 Y-Wing.
Syndicate Thug - Y-wing, Ion cannon turret, Unhinged Astromech, BTL-A4 Y-Wing.
3rd C Saunders - Scum and Villainy 99 points
Boba Fett - Firespray-31, Veteran Instincts, Gunner, Engine Upgrade, Inertial Dampeners.
IG-88B - Aggressor, Veteran Instincts, Heavy Laser Cannon, Fire Control System, Auto-thrusters, Inertial Dampeners.
4th L Heley - Rebels 100 points
Lieutenant Blount - Z-95 Headhunter, Deadeye, Ion Pulse Missiles.
Gold Squadron Pilot - Y-Wing, BTL-A4 Y-Wing, Ion Cannon Turret, R3-A2.
Blue Squadron Pilot - B-Wing, B-Wing/E2, Tactician, Fire-Control System.
Blue Squadron Pilot - B-Wing, B-Wing/E2, Tactician, Fire-Control System.
5th G Gartland - Empire 98 points
Soontir Fel - Tie Interceptor, Push the limit, Auto-thrusters, Targeting Computer, Royal Guard Tie.
Whisper - Tie Phantom, Veteran Instincts, Fire Control System, Advanced Cloaking Device.
Omicron Pilot - Lambda Class Shuttle, Darth Vader, Tactical Jammer.
6th D Lewy - Rebels 100
Corran Horn - E-Wing, Lone Wolf, Shield Upgrade, Fire Control system, R5-P9.
Chewbacca - YT-1300, Push The Limit, C3-P0, Millenium Falcon, Gunner.
7th C Penny Empire 100 points
Soontir Fel - TIE Interceptor, Royal Guard Tie, Push The Limit, Auto-thrusters, Targeting Computer.
Howlrunner - TIE Fighter.
Academy Pilot - TIE Fighter.
Academy Pilot - TIE Fighter.
Academy Pilot - TIE Fighter.
Academy Pilot - TIE Fighter.
8th C Palmer Scum and Villainy 100 points.
Boba Fett - Firespray-31, Gunner, Push the Limit, Inertial Dampners.
Kath Scarlet - Firespray-31, Opportunist, K4-Security Droid, Heavy Laser Cannon.
Thank you all for attending the event - we will be promoting the sponsors of the Auckland regional over the next week so keep an eye out for them!
This was the biggest Premier X-Wing event held in New Zealand so far - I would like to thank every single one of you for attending and for telling your mates / strangers / Jawas to attend !
I hope to see you all at the next regional event in Wellington: Saturday July 25th 2015 at The Wellington Bridge Club, 17 Tinakori Rd, Thorndon, Wellington 6011.
Doors open Early - 09:30am for registration and setup. We have the venue until Midnight this time so please plan for a late finish.
Fly safe!
Oh, and a four-Scyk (using Manglers) list went 4-2, and was playing on the top three or four tables for a while!
I do feel the Scyk list really does deserve a shout out (Serissu with VI, Hull, Mangle and then the Cartel Spacers with Hull and Mangle) as it was probably the most unique list there and was fighting its last game to try and get into top 8 and just barely missed top 16 (17th).
Yep. Until he pasted me in round 5 I was on track to make the cut with Dash and Corran. I still don't understand how he got me, but he thrashed me soundly. I was cheering for him to win round 6 and make the cut, but apparently it was not to be. (I ended up at 11th with a 4-2 record.)
Yeah, that Scyk list is fun to play. I do know that James is looking to change it up a bit after the tourney to get some higher PS Scyk pilots into the mix. Hell, I tried running 4 PS2 Y-Wing Warthogs because I wanted to get away from the two ship lists out there and suffered due to lack of mobility. With all of the high PS, 2 ship lists with arc dodgers being in most lists, I was doomed from the start and went 2-3 (dropped after round five due to being tired, a sore back and foot).
Edited by zathras23Yep. Until he pasted me in round 5 I was on track to make the cut with Dash and Corran. I still don't understand how he got me, but he thrashed me soundly. I was cheering for him to win round 6 and make the cut, but apparently it was not to be. (I ended up at 11th with a 4-2 record.)
Barely a 4-2 record. I barely beat randomscrub after needlessly hanging Boba Fett a millimeter off the edge of the universe. (To be fair, I did so out of fear, as randomscrub had thrashed Fett down to 2 hull left in one round of shooting.) I had to chase Dash (also 2 hull remaining) with IG88-C, then, after killing Dash (giving me a 58-50 edge) running from Corran like a little wuss. This game made the difference between 1st after Swiss and 2nd, and it was a great game.
Edited by Jeff Wilder
oh they've won, just not this specific regional where they took every top 8 slot except for 1 and 6
They only took that many slots because people brought that many to the tournament. Plus, one person who made the top 8 without a turret dropped, allowing another turret list to continue on. So, 3/8 non-turrets in a heavy turret meta is actually a great argument for using non-turrets.
Also, IMO turrets are only a real problem when coupled with Engine Upgrade. So the Eight ended up being only (only?) 4-of-8 Speedy Pancakes.
oh they've won, just not this specific regional where they took every top 8 slot except for 1 and 6
They only took that many slots because people brought that many to the tournament. Plus, one person who made the top 8 without a turret dropped, allowing another turret list to continue on. So, 3/8 non-turrets in a heavy turret meta is actually a great argument for using non-turrets.
Also, IMO turrets are only a real problem when coupled with Engine Upgrade. So the Eight ended up being only (only?) 4-of-8 Speedy Pancakes.
Do we have numbers yet on %speedy pancakes entering tournaments / % speedy pancakes in top 8? Also % in top 8 / % advancing or winning? I'm genuinely curious to see what the success rate is. I'm guessing its better than the field, but my gut tells me that it's not much better than the field. I really want to know how much of their success is due to volume.
Do we have numbers yet on %speedy pancakes entering tournaments / % speedy pancakes in top 8? Also % in top 8 / % advancing or winning? I'm genuinely curious to see what the success rate is. I'm guessing its better than the field, but my gut tells me that it's not much better than the field. I really want to know how much of their success is due to volume.
All I can tell you is that there were a lot of turrets there. I would guess 10-12 Decimater+Fel (or, in at least one case, Vessery) alone, and Decimator-plus-small always has Engine. I can't speak to Engine on the other turrets for sure: it was on randomscrub's Super Dash, but it wasn't on the Han I faced in Round 6.
Gun to my head, I would guess 30+ Speedy Pancakes.
Edited by Jeff WilderSoooo many turrets.
No kidding. I faced three DeciFels (of course, I was part of the problem, flying Chirafel) and did miserably. Karma, as Jeff Wilder put it. DarthDave faced four (!) with his TIE swarm.
We like us some pancakes here in California...
oh they've won, just not this specific regional where they took every top 8 slot except for 1 and 6
They only took that many slots because people brought that many to the tournament. Plus, one person who made the top 8 without a turret dropped, allowing another turret list to continue on. So, 3/8 non-turrets in a heavy turret meta is actually a great argument for using non-turrets.
Also, IMO turrets are only a real problem when coupled with Engine Upgrade. So the Eight ended up being only (only?) 4-of-8 Speedy Pancakes.
It really is the Engine Upgrade that makes it silly. Arc-dodging with a Decimator just feels wrong, lol.
oh they've won, just not this specific regional where they took every top 8 slot except for 1 and 6
They only took that many slots because people brought that many to the tournament. Plus, one person who made the top 8 without a turret dropped, allowing another turret list to continue on. So, 3/8 non-turrets in a heavy turret meta is actually a great argument for using non-turrets.
Also, IMO turrets are only a real problem when coupled with Engine Upgrade. So the Eight ended up being only (only?) 4-of-8 Speedy Pancakes.
Do we have numbers yet on %speedy pancakes entering tournaments / % speedy pancakes in top 8? Also % in top 8 / % advancing or winning? I'm genuinely curious to see what the success rate is. I'm guessing its better than the field, but my gut tells me that it's not much better than the field. I really want to know how much of their success is due to volume.
Data like that can be found here, (at least for tournaments that report it and it doesn't break down speedy vs. non-speedy): http://lists.starwarsclubhouse.com/charts
People have different levels of what they consider "not much better than the field" but my quick calculations show that in the regionals that reported:
23.72% of points were spent from all lists on YTs and Decimators. That number increases to 29.16% in elimination rounds, so they are definitely doing better than the field.
Dash is the only individual PWT pilot whose percentage drops at all after moving to elimination rounds (4.88 to 4.84) and that difference has actually gotten smaller since regionals started as I remember the game was a percentage or two a month or so ago.
Personally, I think that's a pretty clear pattern that their success is not due to volume. How significant that difference is will be up to personal interpretation and is for people better at math than I am.
Edited by AlexWI faced 3 deci fels, it was the match up I usually wanted. 2 with gunner/Vader, but those usually caused me to blow the deci in a single combat round. Still don't think Vader belongs on a 60+ point ships regardless the reason. And no, neither deci blew up my fel.
I'm still hanging on to notion that this was meant to be a small ship game with occasional large ships as highlights rather than 3-4 of them per table. Definitely looking forward to some casual games with variety lists after running 7 TIE swarm for so long. Super fun tournament, but we definitely have a "pancake problem" in California.
In 6 rounds (plus a bye) at the Auckland Regionals I faced a total of 14 ships. Only five of those were small bases (Fel and Whisper, Corran and two Scum Ys), and the only ships I didn't kill all day were Whisper and a Scum Y. Nine big base ships went down in flames, with only the Decimator not being represented among them.
I played four ships Rebels. Granted I lost in the Top 4, but large base ships can be beaten.
I think Mr Froggies and Jonathan Gomes were ahead of their time and if they had sprung Panic Attack on the everyone at Worlds this year, one of them would be World champ. If people start playing more control builds then two ship builds will have to adapt or die.
I used to run Panic Attack, but I found I struggled mightily against Super Dash, IG-88, or the newly revitalized interceptors. Dash kept out of arc too well for too long. The others controlled the ranging too well and stayed at r3 do autothrusters were always on (and tacticians were always off). That's why I switched to Dash and Corran.
In 6 rounds (plus a bye) at the Auckland Regionals I faced a total of 14 ships.
Sounds like my Swiss rounds. 6 rounds of Swiss, 5 rounds played (bye), I faced a total of 10 ships. All 5 games were vs 2 ship lists. I killed 6 ships and got Top 16.
Hopefully I kill at least 10 ships this next weekend and make Top 8! :-)
First tournament I played, a casual tourney, I played 3 games and faced Brobots twice, followed by dual Slaves.
At Vancouver regionals, I faced one Bounty Hunter, one Han Solo (slim), and that was it for big ships during five matches of swiss. Granted, I ran a large ship, but it was Eaden Vrill without any kind of cannon or engine upgrade. Two dice turrets I don't lump in the same boat as the big boys.
On day two, we had the tournament for those who didn't make the cut. I faced a grand total of zero big ships in four matches. This was with those who lost in round one and two of elimination joining our tourney.
Not sure what the take-away is, but the meta seems pretty diverse up here. I didn't even face any real meta lists during nine games. Closest was probably the BBBZA list I faced, or the Soontir / Backstabber / 4 Academy swarm. But it was not an experience of ChiraFel followed by Brobots followed by Fat Han... it was quite diverse and fun.
oh they've won, just not this specific regional where they took every top 8 slot except for 1 and 6
Actually, Fat Han with Jake won (speedy pancake) against the dual decimator list (no engine). In the top 4 was a TIE swarm and another Han (no engine)/Etahn
Soooo many turrets.
No kidding. I faced three DeciFels (of course, I was part of the problem, flying Chirafel) and did miserably. Karma, as Jeff Wilder put it. DarthDave faced four (!) with his TIE swarm.
We like us some pancakes here in California...
Somehow I only met one ChiraFel in 5 rounds (1st round bye). I played:
R2: Han/Etahn (no engine)
R3: Soontir, 4 TIEs, Doom Shuttle
R4: Chiraneau (engine) + 3AP
R5: BBBBZ
R6: ChiraFel
Soontir, 4 TIEs, and Doom shuttle...does that mean soontir was without PTL AND auto thrusters?? Or was the shuttle actually just a naked shuttle?