New Raider preview article up

By Danthrax, in X-Wing

Full speed forward and still gaining 2 energy sounds nice.

Why has no-one else commented on this?

Full speed forward and still gaining 2 energy sounds nice.

Why has no-one else commented on this?

I think we're assuming it's a typo. Article says it gets 2 energy if it does a 2 bank, "but if it does a 4 forward, it only gets 2 energy". Waitwhat? That's the same number, twice, it's not a "but if..."

LOL

They'll fix it, I'm sure.

5 attacks in a single round of combat. Doesn't seem underwhelming to me.

I had a single Interceptor weather that many attacks from the CR-90 and live to tell the tale. The huge ships are actually very underwhelming without dice modifications to accompany their attacks.

I hope there is something in there sorta like the Han crew card. That'd help out a little bit.

5 attacks in a single round of combat. Doesn't seem underwhelming to me.

I had a single Interceptor weather that many attacks from the CR-90 and live to tell the tale. The huge ships are actually very underwhelming without dice modifications to accompany their attacks.

I bet it didn't feel underwhelming at the time! If that didn't get your pulse thumping when you did survive it, I'm not sure you have a pulse.

Isn't a fighter dodging turbolaser fire from a capital ship what this game is supposed to be about?

How many unique Advanced pilots come with this thing? Can we tell that from the image?

How many unique Advanced pilots come with this thing? Can we tell that from the image?

Four, but we've known that since the first preview. The generic pilots are at 2 and 4, and Maarek and Vader are at 7 and 9, while the Raider comes with pilots at 3, 5, 6, and 8.

How many unique Advanced pilots come with this thing? Can we tell that from the image?

4. That was stated in the first raider article.

How many unique Advanced pilots come with this thing? Can we tell that from the image?

There's definitely a Storm and a Tempest, and there are four more pilot cards as well.

Edited by Levi Porphyrogenitus

5 attacks in a single round of combat. Doesn't seem underwhelming to me.

I had a single Interceptor weather that many attacks from the CR-90 and live to tell the tale. The huge ships are actually very underwhelming without dice modifications to accompany their attacks.

Was that before or after the ruling change about range 4 and 5?

I know I've seen fighters completely avoid long-range shots from the big ships, but I haven't played since the range 4/5 change, so...

It was at range 1-2, if I recall properly.

Anyone else feel like this is exponentially better than the CR-90? More hull & shield, more firepower, better ability, and some pretty good crew so far.

My mathematician friend would have an aneurysm at the improper use of the word 'exponentially.'

But your local English professor would help him understand hyperbole

OK, I just have to take time out in this thread to acknowledge this amazing zinger.

Tarkin + Rexler = Epic murder. HLC, Predator, double Focus, he gets 4 hits and flips all of them. Lone Wolf would work, too, as Tarkin's range is out to 4.

Getting enemy ships in that firing arc overlap zone will be very satisfying and exciting, though very hard to manage.

Anyone else feel like this is exponentially better than the CR-90? More hull & shield, more firepower, better ability, and some pretty good crew so far.

My mathematician friend would have an aneurysm at the improper use of the word 'exponentially.'

But your local English professor would help him understand hyperbole

OK, I just have to take time out in this thread to acknowledge this amazing zinger.

Just wait until you get to post #18.

Edited by WonderWAAAGH

Anyone else feel like this is exponentially better than the CR-90? More hull & shield, more firepower, better ability, and some pretty good crew so far.

My mathematician friend would have an aneurysm at the improper use of the word 'exponentially.'

But your local English professor would help him understand hyperbole

OK, I just have to take time out in this thread to acknowledge this amazing zinger.

Just wait until you get to post #18.

Oh yes, my lack of punctuation made for quite the set-up for such a brilliant joke.

Waaagh has done well, protecting his title as most-persnickety of forum-users.

Strange, I thought it was my attention to details, however trivial, that made me an asset around these parts. At least, that was the impression I got last weekend. My keen sense of irony, on the other hand, wasn't nearly as apropos then as it is now.

Tarkin + Fleet Officer and the Raider can be one heck of a support ship.

I didn't realize it came with 6 TIE/A pilots.

So, as I've not played with an epic ship before, can they take cards that would give them a stress as they cannot take stress?

Eg, can this ship use Fleet Officer at all?

Would you call Tarkin's ability particularly "fluffy", though?

I mean, I can see Needa and Ozzel's ability working alright - Needa certainly seemed willing to go into an asteroid field, which tended to have bad consequences, but he did it anyway. And Ozzel's ability...is as clumsy as it is stupid. But it might well work out in a pinch, so he's pretty much taking a chance with his decisions - maybe it will work out in a big way, maybe it will get him killed!

Tarkin's ability is just...huh?

What about Tarkin, in any of the places we've seen him (RotS, TCW, Rebels, ANH) would make you think 'his ability has to do with focus'. STRESS, sure, I'd give you that. Add or remove a STRESS token arbitrarily, and that would feel like Tarkin. But focus? Meh. Not Tarkin.

Well...Tarkin's special ability is strategy. He made his mark in his youth against pirates in the outer rim. After local success, he went on to Republic Navy Academy (or whatever it's called). He's not a brutal killer, but a keen minded strategist. With the Comms Booster card, you can't have Tarkin give or take a stress as the Comms Boosters would do it better than Tarkin. I like that it can affect your enemy or your own ship. With Focus, you can say it's his ability to situate various aspects to distract or prepare a pilot on the battlefield.

I think the most important aspect to think about with Tarkin is that it doesn't take an action or energy.

People may be underwhelmed by the article, but it just gets me pumped. Would I want more info? Sure! Do I still appreciate and get excited for what I do see? Hells yeah!

I just wanted the tie advance fix...I may just start playing epic games now.

If you haven't played Epic yet, you should. It's actually quite fun. I'd recommend having one person build both lists ahead of time. Try to use as many generics as possible. For one thing, it helps speed up game play. You also don't forget about half the abilities, too. There is also something about a wave of generics moving forward instead of a handful of elites bogged down with crap.

If you do set up a game with lists ahead of time, make sure to have them broken up into attack groups to dish out to various players (like each get 50 pts or something). In that attack group, don't have too many of the same pilot skill or the game bogs down.

Good luck!

I didn't realize it came with 6 TIE/A pilots.

4 new unique pilots plus the storm and tempest squad pilots, 2 existing generics

So, as I've not played with an epic ship before, can they take cards that would give them a stress as they cannot take stress?

Eg, can this ship use Fleet Officer at all?

When a huge ship receives a stress token it is immediately discarded. So they CAN receive the token, they just get rid of it very VERY easily.

Anyone else feel like this is exponentially better than the CR-90? More hull & shield, more firepower, better ability, and some pretty good crew so far.

My mathematician friend would have an aneurysm at the improper use of the word 'exponentially.'

But your local English professor would help him understand hyperbole

OK, I just have to take time out in this thread to acknowledge this amazing zinger.

Hyperbole is for exaggerated statements, but referring to 2 data points as exponential is not exaggeration, it is simply incorrect. It is not like using 'inconceivable' for things that are surprising, it is more like saying "That is as tall as the speed of light."

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Great idea for a card. But it's far too expensive. Other "free action/focus" cards cost 3 points and have at least a 75% duty cycle, making an unconditional focus worth 4 points, not 6.

Edited by MajorJuggler

I didn't realize it came with 6 TIE/A pilots.

Basically unless you want Vader, Maarek, or Squad Leader, you don't have to hunt around for an Advanced booster.

(oh, who am I kidding, they're probably still on shelves everywhere)

Anyone else feel like this is exponentially better than the CR-90? More hull & shield, more firepower, better ability, and some pretty good crew so far.

My mathematician friend would have an aneurysm at the improper use of the word 'exponentially.'

But your local English professor would help him understand hyperbole

OK, I just have to take time out in this thread to acknowledge this amazing zinger.

Hyperbole is for exaggerated statements, but referring to 2 data points as exponential is not exaggeration, it is simply incorrect. It is not like using 'inconceivable' for things that are surprising, it is more like saying "That is as tall as the speed of light."

Exaggeration is incorrect by definition.