This is a topic about the life symbol in block 4 ufs.

Many people have called life tier 1 I disagree, although i find myself playing life now:)

so...

what is ypur opinion is it tier 1 medeokre or garbage?

Does anyone have a sick life.dec?

Any snergy? Just curious I enjoy life but don't think its tier 1

Life is better than good ( See what i did thur)

life isn't Death/Earth/Fire tier but it's still pretty good i'd say upper mid.

@ Pig- Life is an okay symbol right now but it is just lacking a unifying element. Like it can protect foundations and speed pump, but it has a hard time killing people outside of character specific support. That and most of the life characters right now are fairly unexciting. Siegfried is okay but seems better with throws and earth damage pump, tira is good with her support but she needs momentum to kill you and death has all the momentum gen right now, yi shan is trash, and christie is super gimmicky. If youre going to play lu chen you can dual symbol with good and life but im not sure how that deck performs. Maybe someone else can shoot me some insight.

Life is my favorite symbol but in all truth it can't hold weight when trying to out preform death, fire, or earth in damage or defense. It has it's good points but that is only because of the accompanying symbols. Lu Chen is my favorite character and I find it quite difficult to run him life mono symbol right now. It lacks any true ferocity in my opinion.

well I built a life sieggy and idk how competative it is

it beat a bryan fury idk how

and it stomped paul but thats just cause sieggy is pauls worse matchup

it needs more testing but idk

bigmattxxx said:

how many cards are life/earth?

I may be wrong, but it seems that anything life can currently do, earth can do as well if not better.

We will see if a legal Kisheri makes life step up a notch...

Smazzurco said:

New Cassandra too piglet. In my opinion, life is just on the cusp of being very playable. If just needs to decent attacks to push through and a foundation base worth protecting with all ziggy's support.

so if u wanna play life cassie is the way to go?

bigmattxxx said:

IMO, not really. I'd say Lu Chen or Christie Monteiro for polar opposite reasons (defensive vs aggressive). Cassandra is best off Fire IMO.

I will maintain that Yi Shan** is playable until someone listens. I have an Astrid deck in my playgroup that's about as stacked as it gets, and it's an even match, as in a 50:50 win rate (to be honest, I'm disappointed in Rashotep** ; that dude got CREAMED by Astrid 's staging area). Not bad for the "trash" character.

Hey, I love Yi Shan and his support, too.

However, it's simply hard to justify his DEPENDABILITY. Great deck is great, certainly, but because his support is so reliable on face-up momentum, which is dependent on them dealing damage (ignoring Atoning), and you generally need 3 or more face-up momentum to matter, it's just hard to justify a character that is such a gradual character, versus those whom kill as quickly as they do.

In the same way that we've seen ShadoWar promo support (ABG - Rasho terrain, HTTS - Ragnar foundation, TPW - Lu Chen foundation), I expect to see a stacker Yi Shan at some point, or maybe another foundation?

MarcoPulleaux said:

Well, I don't know how your play experiences have gone, but I can tell you that I haven't had much trouble with him getting those 3 face-ups on T2 if I get a good hand, and I almost always have them by T3 (you are absolutely correct in that if I get 1 or less face-ups in that time span, I'm in deep trouble, though). Actually, I just played against a Ragnar** Fire deck with him, and Yi Shan** stomped him. The local Zi Mei** can't beat him either (19 vitaliy is not much of an impediment for me), and Rasho has just been a disappointment for me. He is tied for #1 in my playgroup, but I guess YMMV on him more than on most.

As far as the promos go, Astrid got a very, very good stacker character, Rasho gets another sit-down and shut-up sort of card, Ragnar puts out oodles of damage, and Lu Chen gets cheap Reversals (1 momentum is still a cost for the old geezer) for completely blocking stuff. So that leaves Temujin , Zhao Daiyu , Zi Mei , and Yi Shan waiting for the next round of promos to see if they grab anything. To be honest, a stacker char would be cool (and would make Yi Shan* even more nuts in Legacy , though I think my money's on Void Akuma::: in that format), though I would think they'd make a 6-diff alternate character to make Yi Shan* work a little harder (if they do, I want me some 28 HP, the face-up momentum E , and " E: This attack gets +X or -X damage (minimum 1). X equals one-half the number of face up cards in your momentum (rounded up).", dammit! If not, I'll be happy with a 4-diff stacker that has " E: This attack gets -X damage (minimum 1). X equals the number of face up cards in your momentum.") But yeah, I think I'd like a character.

Seems to me that Life Tira with an optional splash of Death (momentum generation) in the foundation base could be strong. Kill with Wrath of Heaven, and exploit the fact that a Life deck has 5 different choices for Reversals (and only 1 of those is a 2cc, Asfixiante or whatever out of Christie's support... there's Lu Chen's 3 fairly strong choices, and the amazing Gut Drill).

Genius Alchemist + her terrain make Wrath of Heaven combo a fairly realistic proposition, and if she gets that off -- that's all she wrote. 12M12 -> '9'M12 is going to end games, especially

The main question worrying me is, how well can she defend herself? And hell, Tira's got Air, you could try splashing Stand Off.

Life has the two highest-damage attacks in the game: Wrath of Heaven and Siegfried's Earth Divide . It also gained excellent punch and kick support from Law's support, Steve's support, and Christie's support.

Life has the two best speed-boosters in the game: Robes of the Grandmaster and Eiserne Drossel .

Life has two of the best control foundations in the game: Torn Hero and Knows When to Talk... Torn Hero is especially important in the Stun-heavy Paul meta.

Life has great characters. Ivy and Yi Shan work best with their own support, but Tira loves all of it. She especially loves giving those big attacks multiple. Siegfried's a great damage output. Lu Chen is a defensive beast.

Yeah, I'd say it's up there.

Ok then I like what I am hearing so lemme ask u guys this what does life need to be fire earth and death?

Life is really, really solid. I like it. I have Siegfried built off Life... DGB is strong. It's an actual gimmick/thematic deck with Needs No Ally and Tower/Spiral. I hear +5 damage to all my attacks is pretty good...