with their S-Foils, why didn't the X-Wing get the slam action?

Because it didn't exist then?

I think it's because the X-wing didn't naturally have that action as a ship. The K-Wing does.

Jacob

1) Because they balanced the X-Wing against vanilla TIES

2) They hadn't thought of it yet.

It's an evolving game.

Closed S-foils aren't the same as an engine dedicated to quick bursts of speed.

Also, the B-wing would get it too, by your logic

Slam actions have a thematic existence beyond this game. They're exclusive to the missile boat and the k wing.

SLAM is Sublight Acceleration Motor. The K-wing and Missile Boat have it canonically: that giant engine on the back I believe is a SLAM drive. While I could see it being modded onto other ships, I can't see the X-wing: SLAM makes you beyond fast and I'd imagine the K-wing has a very slow dial to compensate. The only ship I could see having SLAM modded onto it is the TIE defender.

Aren't closed s-foils just for easier landing and traveling? I don't think it actually makes the X-Wing fly faster.

The TIE Experimental M5 was basically installing a massive booster on an /Ln engine. It made the TIE much faster but it's maneuverability was slightly lowered. What if that became an upgrade card that gave TIE's (or at least the /Ln) the SLAM ability?

Aren't closed s-foils just for easier landing and traveling? I don't think it actually makes the X-Wing fly faster.

When you open the X foils you reduce the aero drag in space which cause the turbulence to reduce the dark matter cross section of the foil.

Aren't closed s-foils just for easier landing and traveling? I don't think it actually makes the X-Wing fly faster.

You can't fire the guns at max efficiency with s foils closed so energy gets diverted to engines making it faster.

SLAM isn't just 'more power to the engines', it's a dedicated system for extreme bursts of speed. Only a couple fighters had it.

Just as Cloak is exclusive to the Phantom, I expect SLAM to be exclusive to the K-Wing (and the Missile Boat, but if they were going to release that, now would have been the time as this seems to be the 'ordnance wave' for non-Scum).

Aren't closed s-foils just for easier landing and traveling? I don't think it actually makes the X-Wing fly faster.

If it did, then Luke and co. would have closed them during the Trench Run.

And they didn't need to power the guns then, either - just torpedo launchers on Luke's X-Wing (which take minimal power) and shields, leaving a lot of power left over for the drives.

SLAM isn't just 'more power to the engines', it's a dedicated system for extreme bursts of speed. Only a couple fighters had it.

Just as Cloak is exclusive to the Phantom, I expect SLAM to be exclusive to the K-Wing (and the Missile Boat, but if they were going to release that, now would have been the time as this seems to be the 'ordnance wave' for non-Scum).

Aren't closed s-foils just for easier landing and traveling? I don't think it actually makes the X-Wing fly faster.

If it did, then Luke and co. would have closed them during the Trench Run.

And they didn't need to power the guns then, either - just torpedo launchers on Luke's X-Wing, and those take minimum power.

The speed boost appeared in x-wing but became canon because it was a Lucas art game.

with their S-Foils, why didn't the X-Wing get the slam action?

Because it didn't exist then?

S-foils are not SLAM

Now I did make a suggestion for having an S-foil action for X-wings and B-wings only to alloy them to treat their straight maneuvers as 1 speed higher but not being able to make attacks during the combat phase untill they use the action again.

However S-foils were only used for transit. In the arcade-style games like Rouge Squadron is the only game where you can use s-foils as a speed increase.

SLAM was in Tie Fighter the DOS computer game. The T/D, the Gun Boat and Missile Boat had it. Why are the rebels getting yet another Imperial upgrade is completely beyond me!

SLAM was in Tie Fighter the DOS computer game. The T/D, the Gun Boat and Missile Boat had it. Why are the rebels getting yet another Imperial upgrade is completely beyond me!

Because many Bothans died to bring us these upgrades.

SLAM was in Tie Fighter the DOS computer game. The T/D, the Gun Boat and Missile Boat had it. Why are the rebels getting yet another Imperial upgrade is completely beyond me!

K-wing has it in lore. I suspect the Defender will get it.

Aren't closed s-foils just for easier landing and traveling? I don't think it actually makes the X-Wing fly faster.

it did in several video games (x-wing vs Tie fighter, Rogue Squadron, Empire at War), but I don't know if it's canonical or they just wanted to make something useful out of a cool scene from A New Hope.

but yeah, people have covered the that SLAM action is really a S.L.A.M engine (as does the news article)

I will add that I don't think, all those years ago, FFG expected the game to take off the way did it (mostly likely why the horror that is primary weapon turrets got past the fevered dreams of a madman and retched themselves into our reality)

and in the small scale of the core set, giving Luke some kind of post-maneuver action would have broken the game in half (poor Ties really don't like his ability and higher PS ). Imo, that's also the only excuse FFG has for not giving the poor X-wing a boost or roll (apart from boost not existing then, but it came out one wave after)

SLAM was in Tie Fighter the DOS computer game. The T/D, the Gun Boat and Missile Boat had it. Why are the rebels getting yet another Imperial upgrade is completely beyond me!

K-wing has it in lore. I suspect the Defender will get it.

Well, it didn't actually have it in the game. At least, not without mods.

Only the Missile Boat did (and the K-Wing had "something similar" - although it's not appeared in any games, at all, to my knowledge).

Aren't closed s-foils just for easier landing and traveling? I don't think it actually makes the X-Wing fly faster.

You can't fire the guns at max efficiency with s foils closed so energy gets diverted to engines making it faster.

You could do that just as easily with the wings open. Sorry, guys, I'm a huge fan of the X-Wing series of PC games (though I spent most of my time playing TIE Fighter which is why I forgot about this aspect), but I think this is one aspect of it we should leave behind.

I still think that a slam engine upgrade that takes the place of the astromech slot makes the most sense for the upgrade that gives the Xwing new life. It could work in Ewings and Y-wings too, but that wouldn't hurt anything anyway. If that is too good you could make it Xwing only.

I still think that a slam engine upgrade that takes the place of the astromech slot makes the most sense for the upgrade that gives the Xwing new life. It could work in Ewings and Y-wings too, but that wouldn't hurt anything anyway. If that is too good you could make it Xwing only.

But there's no reason for X-wing to have SLAM thematically, and mechanically there are a couple of reasons to suspect it would be very, very powerful. The K-wing and its dial were designed with SLAM in mind, but the X-wing wasn't.

I still think that a slam engine upgrade that takes the place of the astromech slot makes the most sense for the upgrade that gives the Xwing new life. It could work in Ewings and Y-wings too, but that wouldn't hurt anything anyway. If that is too good you could make it Xwing only.

But there's no reason for X-wing to have SLAM thematically, and mechanically there are a couple of reasons to suspect it would be very, very powerful. The K-wing and its dial were designed with SLAM in mind, but the X-wing wasn't.

Yes, but right now the X-wing is practically a no show in the game named for it. It needs something to make it significantly better again,and this could really help. The iconic X-wing is good at nothing, and ok at everything. Which leaves it without a home. The only reason to ever take one is the elite pilots and only a couple of those ever see play. One big reason is the lack of a way to take advantage of the high pilot skill pilots. You could even make it unique, but something must e done.

I still think that a slam engine upgrade that takes the place of the astromech slot makes the most sense for the upgrade that gives the Xwing new life. It could work in Ewings and Y-wings too, but that wouldn't hurt anything anyway. If that is too good you could make it Xwing only.

But there's no reason for X-wing to have SLAM thematically, and mechanically there are a couple of reasons to suspect it would be very, very powerful. The K-wing and its dial were designed with SLAM in mind, but the X-wing wasn't.

Yes, but right now the X-wing is practically a no show in the game named for it. It needs something to make it significantly better again,and this could really help. The iconic X-wing is good at nothing, and ok at everything. Which leaves it without a home. The only reason to ever take one is the elite pilots and only a couple of those ever see play. One big reason is the lack of a way to take advantage of the high pilot skill pilots. You could even make it unique, but something must e done.

That's a good reason for something to be done. But why, out of the set of all possible fixes, is SLAM a particularly good one?

I still think that a slam engine upgrade that takes the place of the astromech slot makes the most sense for the upgrade that gives the Xwing new life. It could work in Ewings and Y-wings too, but that wouldn't hurt anything anyway. If that is too good you could make it Xwing only.

But there's no reason for X-wing to have SLAM thematically, and mechanically there are a couple of reasons to suspect it would be very, very powerful. The K-wing and its dial were designed with SLAM in mind, but the X-wing wasn't.

Yes, but right now the X-wing is practically a no show in the game named for it. It needs something to make it significantly better again,and this could really help. The iconic X-wing is good at nothing, and ok at everything. Which leaves it without a home. The only reason to ever take one is the elite pilots and only a couple of those ever see play. One big reason is the lack of a way to take advantage of the high pilot skill pilots. You could even make it unique, but something must e done.

That's a good reason for something to be done. But why, out of the set of all possible fixes, is SLAM a particularly good one?

Other top end pilots benefit from having maneuvers to get out of arc and the Xwing has nothing. EU makes most Xwings too expensive for their points, and the Xwing is pretty poor with expert handling, so it would make sense as a way to get some survivability for the top level pilots like Wedge. As it is now, Wedge dies first all of the time, and he was the ultimate survivor.