What were the cards from previous sets that got to 5 point shurikens? So far i remember Cursed Blood and Mark of the Beast.

Cursed blood

Mark of the beast

Close throw

Martial arts champion

And there's a rumour that power of the edge will be reprinted ¬_¬

Bloodrunstrue said:

I really hate that card it's one of the biggest NPE cards ever printed that was not banned

Grizzlegrom said:

Yeah, it's so unneeded.

At least promo blanka isn't standard legal now.

Grizzlegrom said:

...what? Really?

The card's cost is backbreaking on those resources.

I can also think of like a half dozen other absurd, never-got-banned cards that make Power of the Edge look like Vicious Assault.

Tagrineth said:

Agreed. Right now these is so little momentum gain I don't see why this card would be bad. Even when it first came out it wasn't a big problem. I was more worried about my oppoent playing You will not escape =/

Sol Badguy said:

You haven't looked in the right places then. Death can easily get said momentum.

Yea all death has to do to get the momentum is just blow up two foundations to get the momentum. Lets be real here momentum is tough to get and off of the current meta even if they made pote legal again would you use it? Prolly not as there are better things to use it on. Death can fuel it sure but at the cost of a leg. Right now there is just too little momentum gen.

Bloodrunstrue said:

Fury of the Ancients.

I now take my leave.

I think it just stay where it is. Maybe now you can't generate enough momentum, but peraps a few releases later you can and then the whinning start and the unbalancing and it's back to the drawing board. I think the game is good as it is now. Not so much control, more agressiveness.

Homme Chapeau said:

Was not aware that blowing up 2 foundations was "easy" momentum.

I think that a little control in this game is needed. I mean yeah there are alot of people who like playing more aggressive decks but what about the ones who like being able to control pace and the control game a little(they do exist)

As for PotE i dont think its that bad if my opponent wants to blow up two foundations to get the momentum for it then i think its a fair trade now when we start getting momentum gen like whereabouts or even natural leader then we can start worrying that it might be over the top

guitalex2008 said:

OBJECTION!

Raging gnome!

I Rest my case.

Bloodrunstrue said:

What I meant is obviously that Zi Mei only really runs Fury, and there's no way to stop it other than Undisputer Ruler (but she can still give it Multiple:2, and while I'll admit is not that much she can also use Autumn's Kiss to give it two more multiples, neither of which can be touched by Undisputed Ruler.

Homme Chapeau said:

Yeah...and JUST Death. Let's keep in mind, Death has Unnatural Grace and Destruction in His Wake to compete with the action slots.

guitalex2008 said:

Yeah, Fury of the Ancients is a bleeder of a card (i.e. seeing it being played makes my eyes bleed). Let's not forget that PotE would be hard pressed to stop it less you be throwing out a first turn attack to gain momentum...

Most well-built Zi Mei's go - turn 1, 3/4 foundations + potm. turn 2 fury on a 6, check a 4/5, damage pumps with the other foundations, multiple 3/4, and path one of them for +12-15 damage. We are talking 4/5 attacks coming at you for 5 speed, for in upwards of 30 damage depending on the pumps, etc.

Multiples w/o momentum (even if they are 3 damage a piece base) are scary.

- dut

Seichu Nidan Tsuki agrees with Dut. Also I totally get the DiHW part but, are Death players really using Unnatural Grace on the regular? We don't have them locally, that's the only reason I'm asking.

In retrospect, being able to multiply an attack so easily has always caused issues. Good thing there's multiple hate in place this time... and few ways to stop it.

Tagrineth said:

I only wish that Learned from the Best worked to reduce damage of Fury; then again thats always been the issue with things that substitute momentum with something else for the multiples, like Seichu; your opponent isn't considered to have discarded momentum.

guitalex2008 said:

or you know mark of the beast.......

Whee, I forgot about Mark of the Beast. Which brings the grand total of actual anti-Fury cards to................ 1.

Well, time for me to dig through my collection.

guitalex2008 said:

yeah considering that the OP mentions it lol