I was just wondering, given Bossk and Advanced Targeting Computer if I can cause damage exceeding my results? If I roll two hits and a crit with Bossk and my opponent rolls zero evades and has no evade tokens (or other mitigating upgrades) can I turn my crit into two hits and have 4 hits even though I only rolled 3 dice and had 3 results? Likewise 3 hits with no defensive results while using ATC would turn into 3 hits and a crit?

I understand the logic on both sides. I'm looking for a rules clarification from FFG.

I know how blinded pilot with AC works.

Yes, you can have more hits than you rolled dice.

In the same way, you can have more evades than you rolled dice (eg: you roll 3 evades, and spend an evade token).

Be careful with your timing with Bossk's ability and Advanced Targeting Computer: both of these trigger it triggers during the "Modify Attack Dice" step, which happens BEFORE the defender rolls dice.

Be careful with your timing with Bossk's ability and Advanced Targeting Computer: both of these trigger during the "Modify Attack Dice" step,

Bossk's ability specifies that it has to be an attack that hits, so you can't use his ability until the compare results step.

Be careful with your timing with Bossk's ability and Advanced Targeting Computer: both of these trigger during the "Modify Attack Dice" step,

Bossk's ability specifies that it has to be an attack that hits, so you can't use his ability until the compare results step.

Yep, you're right. Not quite familiar with the new pilots yet, hehe

also advanced targeting computer is tie advanced only, unless I'm missing something.

also advanced targeting computer is tie advanced only, unless I'm missing something.

That is correct. I am surprised that Klutz and Forgottenlore missed that.

YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE..s

I didn't see anyone suggest that Bossk was using ATC. The OP was just citing 2 independent examples that were discussed in the other thread and klutz, I was assuming, was just using "and" as in "this thing and that thing" and not "this and that together".

I didn't see anyone suggest that Bossk was using ATC. The OP was just citing 2 independent examples that were discussed in the other thread and klutz, I was assuming, was just using "and" as in "this thing and that thing" and not "this and that together".

I didn't think anyone thought that Bossk could equip ATC.

So, yeah. I'm not sure what nurglez and dracon are on about.

Regardless, we are probably driving the OP nuts right now by being wildly off topic with nit-picking details instead of discussing his question. Sorry charlesanakin.

So, yeah. I'm not sure what nurglez and dracon are on about.

Regardless, we are probably driving the OP nuts right now by being wildly off topic with nit-picking details instead of discussing his question. Sorry charlesanakin.

Actually his question was already discussed in another thread, but he didn't like the answer so he made this thread.

So, yeah. I'm not sure what nurglez and dracon are on about.

Regardless, we are probably driving the OP nuts right now by being wildly off topic with nit-picking details instead of discussing his question. Sorry charlesanakin.

Actually his question was already discussed in another thread, but he didn't like the answer so he made this thread.

I went and looked at that thread. It's... interesting, I guess.

There is no rule that the number of results of any kind is limited to the number of dice rolled. The most basic example is an evade token, which allows you to generate more [evade] results than the number of dice you rolled. Kir Kanos, Accuracy Corrector, the Advanced Targeting Computer, and Bossk are all examples of cases when the number of [boom] and [kaboom] results you generate can be higher than the number of dice you roll.

Actually his question was already discussed in another thread, but he didn't like the answer so he made this thread.

The question was brought up in another thread that had a completely different topic. It is not at all wrong for him to spin it off into a new topic devoted to his question so as to not derail the original thread.

Actually his question was already discussed in another thread, but he didn't like the answer so he made this thread.

The question was brought up in another thread that had a completely different topic. It is not at all wrong for him to spin it off into a new topic devoted to his question so as to not derail the original thread.

Except it was already answered for him before he made this thread, so..... Yes, this thread is pointless

I was just wondering, given Bossk and Advanced Targeting Computer if I can cause damage exceeding my results? If I roll two hits and a crit with Bossk and my opponent rolls zero evades and has no evade tokens (or other mitigating upgrades) can I turn my crit into two hits and have 4 hits even though I only rolled 3 dice and had 3 results? Likewise 3 hits with no defensive results while using ATC would turn into 3 hits and a crit?

I understand the logic on both sides. I'm looking for a rules clarification from FFG.

I know how blinded pilot with AC works.

In the other thread, and here, you seem to be hung up on a "dice cap". And this seems to be the source of your confusion. Just where did you think this "dice cap" comes from?

Once the dice are rolled they become results and some abilities and tokens can add results. It's as simple as that. There is no "dice cap". Just because you roll X dice doesn't necessarily mean you can only have a maximum of X results.

I was just wondering, given Bossk and Advanced Targeting Computer if I can cause damage exceeding my results? If I roll two hits and a crit with Bossk and my opponent rolls zero evades and has no evade tokens (or other mitigating upgrades) can I turn my crit into two hits and have 4 hits even though I only rolled 3 dice and had 3 results? Likewise 3 hits with no defensive results while using ATC would turn into 3 hits and a crit?

I understand the logic on both sides. I'm looking for a rules clarification from FFG.

I know how blinded pilot with AC works.

In the other thread, and here, you seem to be hung up on a "dice cap". And this seems to be the source of your confusion. Just where did you think this "dice cap" comes from?

Once the dice are rolled they become results and some abilities and tokens can add results. It's as simple as that. There is no "dice cap". Just because you roll X dice doesn't necessarily mean you can only have a maximum of X results.

Exactly. For example, Kir Kanos can roll three dice and get three hits. If he spends an evade token, he can do a fourth damage. The added result is identical to slapping down another dice with the result. Sigh, if only Kir could take PTL... But that's what squad leader is for!

Seriously, Vader with ATC and Squad Leader flying with Kir Kanos? Can't wait to try that. Or could just use Jendon or a Fleet Officer.

Let's not forget Direct Hit crits. I can roll 4 dice, get 4 crits, opponent get unlucky with blanks, then draw 4 Direct Hits. BOOM! 8 damage from 4 dice.

Let's not forget Direct Hit crits. I can roll 4 dice, get 4 crits, opponent get unlucky with blanks, then draw 4 Direct Hits. BOOM! 8 damage from 4 dice.

Make that an Exposed, range 1 Vader with ATC : Roll 4 crits, add a crit with ATC and flip 5 Direct Hits for 10 damage from 4 dice.

While an interesting theoretical exercise, the OP was not really talking about damage, but dice results. Despite what he titled the thread. So direct hit shenanigans don't really apply.

Incidentally, Tycho with expose and opportunist firing prockets. 7 attack dice that could all crit and draw all 7 direct hits. 14 points damage. Sadly, no ship has the hull to absorb all that.

Expose only affects primary weapon. But A-wing with Prockets + Opportunist + Jan Ors would work for 7 crits.

Rexler can beat that.

Rexler + Opportunist + Prockets -> 6 crits. Draw 2x Minor Explosion + 4 Direct hit. Roll 2 more damage from Explosions. Spend the Focus to flip up. Get 2 more Direct Hit and Suffer Minor Explosion again x2. Total 6x Direct Hit + 2x Minor Explosion (now normal damage) + 2 additional damage. -> 16 Damage.

I note that Rexler comes the closest to killing a Deci in 1 attack as anyone.

Rexlar + Opportunist + Cluster Missiles

1st Attack strips the 4 shields using opportunist for extra die.

2nd does 3 crits. Draw 2x Minor Explosion and 1 Direct Hit. -> Get 2 extra damage from Minor Explosion and flip face down. Spend a focus (TL was from previous turn). Flip up 2x Minor Explosion and roll 2 more damage. 2 damage from previous Minor Explosion damage are Direct Hits. -> End result is 3x Direct Hit + 2x facedown Minor Explosion + 2 Damage -> 10 Hull damage...

Poor little Deci!

Expose only affects primary weapon. But A-wing with Prockets + Opportunist + Jan Ors would work for 7 crits.

****, yes, I knew that.