Hey guys, right now I'm reading the Imperial Handbook, and found something very interesting.

It says, that the VSD is very slow in sub lightspeed travel, but it can travel with lightspeed, to reach it's destination in half the time the ISD would need.

It also says, that the ISD Is slower at lightspeed travel , but It is very fast at sub light, and can easily hunt smaller rebel ships.

The fluff says, that the ISD (which is an enhanced and bigger version of the older VSD) is much faster in combat situations.

We See one catching a CR90 right at the beginning of ANH.

So of FFG stays true to the fluff, the ISD should have at least speed 3.

What do you guys think?

It also says, that the ISD doesn't have a light speed engine, but It is very fast at sub light, and can easily hunt smaller rebel ships.

You may have misread that, because what you've written there is words to the effect of the Star Destroyer doesn't have a hyperdrive.

I think for balance purposes it will probably be slow, but in real life naval warfare, especially up through World War 2, larger ships like battleships and heavy cruisers were faster and more maneuverable than many smaller vessels, simply because they were big enough to devote more space to engines.

It also says, that the ISD doesn't have a light speed engine, but It is very fast at sub light, and can easily hunt smaller rebel ships.

You may have misread that, because what you've written there is words to the effect of the Star Destroyer doesn't have a hyperdrive.

Yes, I misread that. The ISD does have a hyperdrive, it's just slower in hyperspace Travel. But hyperspace Speed is not relevant for battles.

Speed 2 for ISDs is just fine. There are tractor beams!

well, Han did boast about out-running the big destroyers meaning there is likely some truth to their speed. Hell, no friction in space meaning a ship that size could in theory have huge propulsion capabilities, more so due to having more space for them over smaller ships hence more speed

I've not read the Imperial Handbook, which I would pick up, if it weren't for the sticker price.

I do, however, have the Imperial Sourcebook from West End Games (and you can have it too, by going to the D6 Holocron and getting it from 'downloads'). According to the ImpSB, out of the four star destroyers, only the Imperial I has a slower hyperdrive. In terms of sublight, they have the following stats:

Victory I: 4

Victory II: 6

Imperial I: 6

Imperial II: 6

Of course, I do not expect FFG to adhere to the lore of WEG (and they haven't), but I would like them to adhere to the lore of Daniel Wallace's Imperial Handbook, as that is a much more recent publication. That said, I'm not confident that they'll do that either. It looks like the Lucasfilm Story Group is not seeking to actively integrate their lore with Wallace's Essential Atlas, which is my favorite source of lore (aside from the films).

ISD will have speed 3. spanish distributors posted a pic on their instagram. not very clear, but clear enough to see it has 3 levels of speed.

https://instagram.com/p/1u-PKchkHH/

oh ****!

Ye Nebs best beware

I like to think the VSDs are the "bulk cruisers" Han was talking about in EP 4 (yes I know VSDs were spawned in the EU).

I think people are forgetting that speed in space is relative. Ships can go .1 the speed of light and if another ship is doing .1, they are still just doing .1 the speed of light. The difference in speeds I believe is acceleration. Smaller ships need less thrust to accelerate them faster than large ships.

What the fluff us saying about the Falcon is that it can accelerate much faster than an ISD so it can out run them. That is until they match velocities. It is likely that the ISD which has a much greater thrust to weight ratio compared to the VSD will be faster but we shall see.

ISD will have speed 3. spanish distributors posted a pic on their instagram. not very clear, but clear enough to see it has 3 levels of speed.

https://instagram.com/p/1u-PKchkHH/

I like to think the VSDs are the "bulk cruisers" Han was talking about in EP 4 (yes I know VSDs were spawned in the EU).

Nope, that would be these:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Neutron_Star-class_bulk_cruiser

They only WISH they were as fast, agile and all round capable as a VSD

A high speed and terrible turn rate would not help the ISD

I thunk people are forgetting that speed in space is relative. Ships can go .1 the speed of light and if another ship is doing .1, they are still just doing .1 the speed of light. The difference in speeds I believe is acceleration. Smaller ships need less thrust to accelerate them faster than large ships.

What the fluff us saying about the Falcon is that it can accelerate much faster than an ISD so it can out run them. That is until they match velocities. It is likely that the ISD which has a much greater thrust to weight ratio compared to the VSD will be faster but we shall see.

Star Wars doesn't exactly follow the rules of physics all that closely.

I thunk people are forgetting that speed in space is relative. Ships can go .1 the speed of light and if another ship is doing .1, they are still just doing .1 the speed of light. The difference in speeds I believe is acceleration. Smaller ships need less thrust to accelerate them faster than large ships.

What the fluff us saying about the Falcon is that it can accelerate much faster than an ISD so it can out run them. That is until they match velocities. It is likely that the ISD which has a much greater thrust to weight ratio compared to the VSD will be faster but we shall see.

Star Wars doesn't exactly follow the rules of physics all that closely.

It does explain why an ISD is faster than a VSD. Where it does not follow physics is in the Fighters. Fighters should be slower and not as maneuverable as they are.

HNN has the scoop:

A high speed and terrible turn rate would not help the ISD

it would for surprise rounds (esp with tarkin + navigate command shooting it up to speed 3, which will let you blow up some poor fool next round if you have initiative) and for racing to objects

the whatever title shooting the command stack down to 2 will help with shenanigans, as will defensive liason

I think Speed 3 is fair for the ISD. The VSD was marked as having slower outdated engines.

ISD will have speed 3. spanish distributors posted a pic on their instagram. not very clear, but clear enough to see it has 3 levels of speed.

https://instagram.com/p/1u-PKchkHH/

Holy s***! That's big news.

I like to think the VSDs are the "bulk cruisers" Han was talking about in EP 4 (yes I know VSDs were spawned in the EU).

Nope, that would be these:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Neutron_Star-class_bulk_cruiser

They only WISH they were as fast, agile and all round capable as a VSD

Touché

Can anyone make out the stats? How harder do they hit than a Victory?

This much was made clear on the preview:

Imperial I-class Star Destroyer

Hull: 11

Anti-squadron: one black, one blue

Command: 3

Squadron: 4

Defense: 2 redirect, one contain, one brace. (Expansion comes with an evade token, so presumably the other variant has that as an option)

Then from the blurry picture, I'd guess...

Speed 1: 1 click

Speed 2: ???

Speed 3: no click, one click, ???

Front armament: 3 red, two blue, 3 black?

Sides: two red two black?

Back: three?

I thunk people are forgetting that speed in space is relative. Ships can go .1 the speed of light and if another ship is doing .1, they are still just doing .1 the speed of light. The difference in speeds I believe is acceleration. Smaller ships need less thrust to accelerate them faster than large ships.

What the fluff us saying about the Falcon is that it can accelerate much faster than an ISD so it can out run them. That is until they match velocities. It is likely that the ISD which has a much greater thrust to weight ratio compared to the VSD will be faster but we shall see.

Star Wars doesn't exactly follow the rules of physics all that closely.

It does explain why an ISD is faster than a VSD. Where it does not follow physics is in the Fighters. Fighters should be slower and not as maneuverable as they are.

Newton's second law: Force = Mass * Acceleration

Fighters have little mass and thus need little force to have a large rate of accelerate(in all directions). The ISD would need more force than the VSD, but I guess it has it.

That said, be happy with Star Wars the way it is. If I were truly accurate to physics, it would get very boring.

Also looks like Vader costs 36 points. So I'm guessing he does something amazing. Can't make out the text.