One of the YV-666 pilots names starts with "Mora".

In CW, the villainous (obviously, given the name) Moralo Eval owns a YV-666.

As far as I'm aware, it's the only media he ever appears in.

And yep, zooming in on the cardboard base, I can clearly see the name "Eval".

It wouldn't be the first prequel character. 'Captain Kagi' is the Emperor's shuttle pilot in Revenge Of The Sith

Moralo Eval didn't die in his TCW arc so he could still be around.

And the Rebels s.2 trailer indicates some connections between Rebels and Clone Wars....

God forbid they just unabashedly make prequels stuff. I think after the K-Wing they owe me an N-1.

God forbid they just unabashedly make prequels stuff. I think after the K-Wing they owe me an N-1.

No, sorry. I sympathize with your frustration, but they don't owe any of us anything.

God forbid they just unabashedly make prequels stuff. I think after the K-Wing they owe me an N-1.

No, sorry. I sympathize with your frustration, but they don't owe any of us anything.

Actually, they literally do. Their jobs are to make money, they make money by ensuring a loyal customer base, they ensure a loyal customer base by producing things people like/catering to their interests. So, in a very real sense, they owe me, and you, and everybody else on the forums quite a bit. It's a balancing act, and no one person's interests can dominate a discussion where this much product is sold worldwide, but they do, in fact, owe each and every one of us.

God forbid they just unabashedly make prequels stuff. I think after the K-Wing they owe me an N-1.

No, sorry. I sympathize with your frustration, but they don't owe any of us anything.

Actually, they literally do. Their jobs are to make money, they make money by ensuring a loyal customer base, they ensure a loyal customer base by producing things people like/catering to their interests. So, in a very real sense, they owe me, and you, and everybody else on the forums quite a bit. It's a balancing act, and no one person's interests can dominate a discussion where this much product is sold worldwide, but they do, in fact, owe each and every one of us.

Well, the leadership at FFG has a fiduciary duty to those with shares of the corporation (I think it's privately held). How they discharge that duty is up to them, and--if they could build a business case for it--that might plausibly include something like "Okay, no more releases for X-wing Miniatures. We're going to focus on design and production for Armada and Imperial Assault for the next year or so, and we'll be back with a rebooted X-wing Second Edition in Q4 2016."

I don't actually think they will do that, but they could. We'd all be furious, and probably less likely to invest in FFG products in the future, but c'est la vie: corporations are sociopaths, without emotions or loyalties or really any conscience other than what appears beneath the bottom line. So just because it's not good for their customers doesn't mean they wouldn't consider it.

I do think that sociopathic corporations focused on short-term financial gain are a bad idea, and I really like and appreciate FFG's apparent stance that happy customers stay loyal. But even so, it's more of a balancing act than you've indicated: the customer base has (at least) one set of goals, the health of the game has another, the shareholders have yet another, the licensor gets a say, and all of those things are constrained by things like production and shipping issues.

So, although I suspect we disagree less than I initially thought, I firmly believe that no individual forum poster is owed (or, more importantly, is likely to get) exactly what he or she wants to see.

That word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

Some connections between Rebels and TCW? The promo for season 2 of Rebels made it look like a direct sequel. Rex and Asoka playing major roles. Can't wait to see Asoka vs Vader at some point. That will be interesting if it happens.

God forbid they just unabashedly make prequels stuff. I think after the K-Wing they owe me an N-1.

No, sorry. I sympathize with your frustration, but they don't owe any of us anything.

Actually, they literally do. Their jobs are to make money, they make money by ensuring a loyal customer base, they ensure a loyal customer base by producing things people like/catering to their interests. So, in a very real sense, they owe me, and you, and everybody else on the forums quite a bit. It's a balancing act, and no one person's interests can dominate a discussion where this much product is sold worldwide, but they do, in fact, owe each and every one of us.

Well, the leadership at FFG has a fiduciary duty to those with shares of the corporation (I think it's privately held). How they discharge that duty is up to them, and--if they could build a business case for it--that might plausibly include something like "Okay, no more releases for X-wing Miniatures. We're going to focus on design and production for Armada and Imperial Assault for the next year or so, and we'll be back with a rebooted X-wing Second Edition in Q4 2016."

I don't actually think they will do that, but they could. We'd all be furious, and probably less likely to invest in FFG products in the future, but c'est la vie: corporations are sociopaths, without emotions or loyalties or really any conscience other than what appears beneath the bottom line. So just because it's not good for their customers doesn't mean they wouldn't consider it.

I do think that sociopathic corporations focused on short-term financial gain are a bad idea, and I really like and appreciate FFG's apparent stance that happy customers stay loyal. But even so, it's more of a balancing act than you've indicated: the customer base has (at least) one set of goals, the health of the game has another, the shareholders have yet another, the licensor gets a say, and all of those things are constrained by things like production and shipping issues.

So, although I suspect we disagree less than I initially thought, I firmly believe that no individual forum poster is owed (or, more importantly, is likely to get) exactly what he or she wants to see.

I don't disagree, but smart corporations tend to keep customers happy, as there is often choice in the marketplace. I'm sure if FFG were powerful enough to shove lame waves down our throats and force us to accept them, that would be a possibility. However, for a miniatures game which requires a rather expensive investment to play at any level beyond the core set, that's a poor model. On some level, the ship design matters. I'm sure there are some people on this forum who would continue to purchase new waves even if they consisted of plastic 1/270 scale models of cardboard refrigerator boxes on sticks, but I'm not one of those, and I suspect the majority of people wouldn't. So, clearly they have a vested interest in producing ships we want in order to keep us as their customer base. When they stop producing ships I want, I will be gone from the game in a heartbeat. There are too many viable alternatives out there competing for my limited supply of dollars. One of those, Shapeways, is going to be making far more money from me in the coming months than FFG as a result of this wave and their GCW forward policy. One person doing that doesn't make it a bad financial decision, obviously, so for FFG's sake, I hope they produce waves others really love.

^box wing confirmed!!

God forbid they just unabashedly make prequels stuff. I think after the K-Wing they owe me an N-1.

No, sorry. I sympathize with your frustration, but they don't owe any of us anything.

Actually, they literally do. Their jobs are to make money, they make money by ensuring a loyal customer base, they ensure a loyal customer base by producing things people like/catering to their interests. So, in a very real sense, they owe me, and you, and everybody else on the forums quite a bit. It's a balancing act, and no one person's interests can dominate a discussion where this much product is sold worldwide, but they do, in fact, owe each and every one of us.

Well, the leadership at FFG has a fiduciary duty to those with shares of the corporation (I think it's privately held). How they discharge that duty is up to them, and--if they could build a business case for it--that might plausibly include something like "Okay, no more releases for X-wing Miniatures. We're going to focus on design and production for Armada and Imperial Assault for the next year or so, and we'll be back with a rebooted X-wing Second Edition in Q4 2016."

I don't actually think they will do that, but they could. We'd all be furious, and probably less likely to invest in FFG products in the future, but c'est la vie: corporations are sociopaths, without emotions or loyalties or really any conscience other than what appears beneath the bottom line. So just because it's not good for their customers doesn't mean they wouldn't consider it.

I do think that sociopathic corporations focused on short-term financial gain are a bad idea, and I really like and appreciate FFG's apparent stance that happy customers stay loyal. But even so, it's more of a balancing act than you've indicated: the customer base has (at least) one set of goals, the health of the game has another, the shareholders have yet another, the licensor gets a say, and all of those things are constrained by things like production and shipping issues.

So, although I suspect we disagree less than I initially thought, I firmly believe that no individual forum poster is owed (or, more importantly, is likely to get) exactly what he or she wants to see.

I don't disagree, but smart corporations tend to keep customers happy, as there is often choice in the marketplace. I'm sure if FFG were powerful enough to shove lame waves down our throats and force us to accept them, that would be a possibility. However, for a miniatures game which requires a rather expensive investment to play at any level beyond the core set, that's a poor model. On some level, the ship design matters. I'm sure there are some people on this forum who would continue to purchase new waves even if they consisted of plastic 1/270 scale models of cardboard refrigerator boxes on sticks, but I'm not one of those, and I suspect the majority of people wouldn't. So, clearly they have a vested interest in producing ships we want in order to keep us as their customer base. When they stop producing ships I want, I will be gone from the game in a heartbeat. There are too many viable alternatives out there competing for my limited supply of dollars. One of those, Shapeways, is going to be making far more money from me in the coming months than FFG as a result of this wave and their GCW forward policy. One person doing that doesn't make it a bad financial decision, obviously, so for FFG's sake, I hope they produce waves others really love.

The problem with your argument, is some people like you, won't like this wave. Others, like me ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS WAVE.

FFG can't please the entire fan-base. A lot of people are pissed x got made, but to other people, x is what they always wanted in-game.

The problem with your argument, is some people like you, won't like this wave. Others, like me ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS WAVE.

FFG can't please the entire fan-base. A lot of people are pissed x got made, but to other people, x is what they always wanted in-game.

That's not a problem with my argument. That was fully acknowledged within my argument, including the last line of the paragraph you quoted. I totally agree. However, they have to please somebody, so they do owe their player base something.

You do understand that LFL has sort of been pushing the OT, though right? Even if FFG wanted to PT stuff, they might not be able to at the moment.

You do understand that LFL has sort of been pushing the OT, though right? Even if FFG wanted to PT stuff, they might not be able to at the moment.

Yea I'm a bit worried actually, from what I've seen, there is no Clone Wars option in the new Battlefront. I'm just hoping that I'm completely wrong about that.

You do understand that LFL has sort of been pushing the OT, though right? Even if FFG wanted to PT stuff, they might not be able to at the moment.

Yea I'm a bit worried actually, from what I've seen, there is no Clone Wars option in the new Battlefront. I'm just hoping that I'm completely wrong about that.

You are not.

as much as I HATE the N-1 look, its to feminine and fragile looking to me. but if it made it into this game for any reason, I would buy it, maybe just 1 or 2 but I would buy it.

the ARC and V-wing I thought were cool, even the jedi interceptors from revenge of the sith. not the jedi star fighters, those were ugly and unimaginative.

as much as I HATE the N-1 look, its to feminine...

I have no idea what that even means.

You do understand that LFL has sort of been pushing the OT, though right? Even if FFG wanted to PT stuff, they might not be able to at the moment.

Yea I'm a bit worried actually, from what I've seen, there is no Clone Wars option in the new Battlefront. I'm just hoping that I'm completely wrong about that.

If you want to play the Clone Wars in Battlefront - checkout Star Wars Battlefront II - it wasn't fantastic but it was ok. For me - I'm hoping to never see another Clone Trooper helmet again in any new materials

as much as I HATE the N-1 look, its to feminine...

I have no idea what that even means.

He means it's the hairdresser's car of starfighters, I think. Like the space Mazda Miata.

You do understand that LFL has sort of been pushing the OT, though right? Even if FFG wanted to PT stuff, they might not be able to at the moment.

Yea I'm a bit worried actually, from what I've seen, there is no Clone Wars option in the new Battlefront. I'm just hoping that I'm completely wrong about that.

If you want to play the Clone Wars in Battlefront - checkout Star Wars Battlefront II - it wasn't fantastic but it was ok. For me - I'm hoping to never see another Clone Trooper helmet again in any new materials

I want to see Clone Wars (particularly stuff from TCW) in new material. I can live without it in the new Battlefront but I know that they will have pissed off a large fanbase if they do leave it out.

As for the part about BF2, I'm not sure if that was sarcastic or stupid.

As for the part about BF2, I'm not sure if that was sarcastic or stupid.

Re: BF2 - it is what it is - it was a decent game for the time (I only played Xbox version) - it had good reviews at the time and supported online multiplayer. It wasn't Halo but it was a Star Wars FPS for the console - it did it's job. I'm not a video gamer neckbeard so maybe our opinions will differ. It was fun for what it was.

Reference your signature before replying.....

I think it's far more likely that Star Wars is going to focus on advancing the timeline (and movie tie-ins, over the next several years) than they are going to invest in Clone Wars-era stuff, any time soon. I think Rebels will be the closest we get to any sort of hardcore prequel action.