I have been on this forum for a while now and finally getting around to posting something. I've really enjoyed flying Boba and Kath Scum Firesprays with a variety of support ships and yesterday I decided to pick up a second firespray to try out a dual Firespray list. These two pilots can get some great attacks off but I've found their defense can lack at times. I would love to hear some thoughts / advice on the following list:

Kath (49 points)

Expose, K4 Droid, Dampeners, Experimental Interface

Boba (50 points)

PTL, K4 droid, Dampeners, Engine Upgrade

I like some of the Firespray and IG88-B lists too, but I would prefer to fly two Firesprays if I can make it competitve.

My thoughts with Kath is that she can execute a green move, get a TL and use EI to grab an evade and activate Expose for a 4-5 dice attack with a TL.

Excited to hear some responses!

Cheers.

We are in a high stress meta right now and I try to avoid EPTs that require an action. I personally would exchange Expose on Kath for Expert Handling or Predator.

Here is a list I've run with great success. Trick to two big ship builds is you want to insure you are bringing the pain each round

Kath+Preadator+K4+ID+EU

Boba+VI+Navigator+ID+EU

This is 97 points. You can take a bomb, an Ion cannon, or save the points for the initiative.

Thanks for the advice Stone. I really like the idea of VI and Navigator on Boba. Generally speaking do you try to get into range one with your list?

Thanks for the advice Stone. I really like the idea of VI and Navigator on Boba. Generally speaking do you try to get into range one with your list?

Also remember, R2 with a focus or TL is better than R1 without tokens. This is where Predator shines. You always have an offensive re-roll.

Thanks again. That makes good sense. Loving this game but still have lots to learn.

We are in a high stress meta right now and I try to avoid EPTs that require an action. I personally would exchange Expose on Kath for Expert Handling or Predator.

Here is a list I've run with great success. Trick to two big ship builds is you want to insure you are bringing the pain each round

Kath+Preadator+K4+ID+EU

Boba+VI+Navigator+ID+EU

This is 97 points. You can take a bomb, an Ion cannon, or save the points for the initiative.

I'm not 100% sure about Predator+K4.

Sure, you won't take a green all the time and sometimes you want to re-roll more than one dice but feels like you could take something else.

We are in a high stress meta right now and I try to avoid EPTs that require an action. I personally would exchange Expose on Kath for Expert Handling or Predator.

Here is a list I've run with great success. Trick to two big ship builds is you want to insure you are bringing the pain each round

Kath+Preadator+K4+ID+EU

Boba+VI+Navigator+ID+EU

This is 97 points. You can take a bomb, an Ion cannon, or save the points for the initiative.

I'm not 100% sure about Predator+K4.

Sure, you won't take a green all the time and sometimes you want to re-roll more than one dice but feels like you could take something else.

This keeps your opponent guessing. Your moves will not be telegraphed. You don't NEED K4, but it's nice to have. IF you get an action, you can use it for an evade. You can also swap out Predator for Expert Handling.

We are in a high stress meta right now and I try to avoid EPTs that require an action. I personally would exchange Expose on Kath for Expert Handling or Predator.

Here is a list I've run with great success. Trick to two big ship builds is you want to insure you are bringing the pain each round

Kath+Preadator+K4+ID+EU

Boba+VI+Navigator+ID+EU

This is 97 points. You can take a bomb, an Ion cannon, or save the points for the initiative.

I'm not 100% sure about Predator+K4.

Sure, you won't take a green all the time and sometimes you want to re-roll more than one dice but feels like you could take something else.

This keeps your opponent guessing. Your moves will not be telegraphed. You don't NEED K4, but it's nice to have. IF you get an action, you can use it for an evade. You can also swap out Predator for Expert Handling.

Eh, I think you're expecting too many mind games could be played with that, that in all likelihood actually won't. There's other EPTs you could take instead that would not only keep the enemy guessing, but I think namely do a better job of it AND not risk becoming redundant along with K4.

Like Outmaneuver, which I've learned pairs pretty wonderfully with Scum Kath. THAT can really screw with an opponent, as it means if they go after Fett instead of Kath (which I'd say likely, as chasing Kath is always a bad plan) they'll risk giving up their back to Kath who can tear them apart due to their lower agility. And if they chase her to try and prevent the easy shots hitting them in the back they'll risk getting into a chase that leaves Kath's rear arc throwing extra dice at em'. And then if they guess your movement wrong, they risk getting hit with both Outmaneuver and Kath's ability. Heck, with K4 you can use a green, get a TL, then boost in the opposite way they'd hoped to get out of arc and shoot them out the rear.

Then give her a cannon, maybe an ion if three points is all that's left, and let her pop anyone chasing Fett even from long range.

Predator's still not bad, but there's going to be turns where it's redundant along with K4 and I personally hate turns where I have something that's rendered pointless by something else in my team (like flying Trelix with Jonus). If you really want to go with Predator as the EPT, then I'd suggest dropping the K4 for something else, maybe a Recon Specialist.

I was thinking along the same lines as Comradebot regarding EH. With a two ship build you do have to be mindful about your attack power dropping off too much. Outmaneuver seems solid for Kath as well. I didn't realize it works with the rear arc!

Hmm lots of options here. It's really tempting to add either Expose or PTL to Kath, but I agree about being mindful of stress. At this point I think I will try the following:

Kath with Outmaneuver, K4, ID, EU (49)

Boba with VI, Navigator, ID, EU and Prox Mines (51)

I was thinking along the same lines as Comradebot regarding EH. With a two ship build you do have to be mindful about your attack power dropping off too much. Outmaneuver seems solid for Kath as well. I didn't realize it works with the rear arc too!

Hmm lots of options here. At this point I think I will try the following:

Kath with Outmaneuver, K4, ID, EU (49)

Boba with VI, Navigator, ID, EU and Prox Mines (51)

It does! Had to double (and triple) check the rules on that earlier as I've been using her with it. Dark Curse suddenly becomes a lot less annoying when he misjudges Kath's next move and ends up in range one of her rear arc, with one less agility to work with.

I've become a HUGE fan of Kath+Outmaneuver, simply for the fact that seems to synergize well with her own ability. I've been running her with a HLC or Mangler (and a Mando Merc with a HLC+Greedo), however, so your mileage may very a bit with this build... still, should be effective, especially running her with EU for its positioning goodness.

Nice! I will probably be trying this against my friend tomorrow. I was looking at a Merc with Greedo and Determination for a while but I like Boba and Kath too much.

We are in a high stress meta right now and I try to avoid EPTs that require an action. I personally would exchange Expose on Kath for Expert Handling or Predator.

Here is a list I've run with great success. Trick to two big ship builds is you want to insure you are bringing the pain each round

Kath+Preadator+K4+ID+EU

Boba+VI+Navigator+ID+EU

This is 97 points. You can take a bomb, an Ion cannon, or save the points for the initiative.

I'm not 100% sure about Predator+K4.

Sure, you won't take a green all the time and sometimes you want to re-roll more than one dice but feels like you could take something else.

This keeps your opponent guessing. Your moves will not be telegraphed. You don't NEED K4, but it's nice to have. IF you get an action, you can use it for an evade. You can also swap out Predator for Expert Handling.

Eh, I think you're expecting too many mind games could be played with that, that in all likelihood actually won't. There's other EPTs you could take instead that would not only keep the enemy guessing, but I think namely do a better job of it AND not risk becoming redundant along with K4.

Like Outmaneuver, which I've learned pairs pretty wonderfully with Scum Kath. THAT can really screw with an opponent, as it means if they go after Fett instead of Kath (which I'd say likely, as chasing Kath is always a bad plan) they'll risk giving up their back to Kath who can tear them apart due to their lower agility. And if they chase her to try and prevent the easy shots hitting them in the back they'll risk getting into a chase that leaves Kath's rear arc throwing extra dice at em'. And then if they guess your movement wrong, they risk getting hit with both Outmaneuver and Kath's ability. Heck, with K4 you can use a green, get a TL, then boost in the opposite way they'd hoped to get out of arc and shoot them out the rear.

Then give her a cannon, maybe an ion if three points is all that's left, and let her pop anyone chasing Fett even from long range.

Predator's still not bad, but there's going to be turns where it's redundant along with K4 and I personally hate turns where I have something that's rendered pointless by something else in my team (like flying Trelix with Jonus). If you really want to go with Predator as the EPT, then I'd suggest dropping the K4 for something else, maybe a Recon Specialist.

That list is 8-1 in my local tournament play. It's a great build for a high stress dealing meta. But as I said, Predator can be replaced by Expert Handling.

Hey Stone, I'm curious to hear why you prefer Predator over Outmaneuver. Is it because you don't find Kath firing out of arc often enough? I suppose Predator is guaranteed but I would think t would be redundant at times with the K4 droid.

Hey Stone, I'm curious to hear why you prefer Predator over Outmaneuver. Is it because you don't find Kath firing out of arc often enough? I suppose Predator is guaranteed but I would think t would be redundant at times with the K4 droid.

At first, it appears there is a redundancy between Predator and K4, but you'll quickly find you can't always make those green moves, but it's great when you can. I personally like the psychological game the K4 upgrade creates on Kath. Recon Spec would be more "economical" but I'm running into Tactician often in my meta. Predator and K4 gives Kath two actionless chances to insure I roll hits on all my die. The best Defense is a good Offense.

If you are not running into a lot of stress builds in your area, Kath with EH and K4 is sick.

Played during lunch break today against my friend who brought out Oicunn, Howlrunner and two academies.

I lost to some early bad luck on dice rolls but I also think I flew the two firesprays too close together. I ended up getting blocked on one turn which really ended up hurting.

We might try a rematch tomorrow, so we will see how that goes.