Aw, man, Garreth Edwards? He did Godzilla, and Monsters, which were both very disappointing movies. Every time he makes a movie he's like "what if I show the audience as little as possible of the actual content of the film."

You do realize that Godzilla traditionally doesn't have a lot of screen time?

For comparison, here is Godzilla's screen time in minutes for each film, sorted from highest the lowest. Blue is a Showa era film, orange is a Heisei era film, purple is a Millennium era film, and red is a Legendary era film. The screen time is an estimate based on using a stopwatch to record any visual part of a daikaiju on screen, full body, tail, foot, fin, head, etc… It maybe off by a few seconds but should be fairly accurate:

Given that I'm a huge Godzilla Otaku, I was fine with his take on it - it was a pretty good Godzilla flick. Actually I'm looking forward to it more than I am the JJ films. I think he's a much stronger director.

Edwards direction is fine, the look of Monsters was fine, it was just the main characters that were a turn off for me. He wrote that though. He didn't write Godzilla and isn't doing Rogue One either. So writing isn't his strong suit in my eyes, no biggy.

He can make a movie look good, and with a guy who is a vfx veteran being nuts about the story and writing it, I think the potential is really good for this flick.

Hi people! I would like to know if anyone with a mathematic mind can give me an aproximate mesure of the Death Star based on the picture we have seen, because that seems MORE than 120km and even 900km that are the most mentioned values.

Thanks!

I'm pretty sure Jungle + Death Star + Rogue One trailer = Yavin.

There more I've looked at the trailer (I noted a TIE flying towards the DS) and the more I read notes on the plot the more I think this can NOT be Yavin. The DS never got that close to Yavin before going boom. No TIEs (that we know of) swooped down to scout for the rebel base on a moon they thought was about to explode. With the plot being about stealing the DS plans, we wouldn't see the Yavin battle unless there was some sort of fast-forward to see the culmination of the hero's actions.

Still not sure of how the title is going to fit in. Sounds more like a commando mission then a starfighter squadron mission. The one artist conception I've seen shows what appear to be troops dressed like rebel commandos from Endor being dropped on some planet's surface. The hero is a commando AND an ace??

I sure hope that jungle planet we see in the trailer isn't a moon. If so, we could end up with:

DS1 being built at and/or pulls up to a FOREST MOON - Plans stolen.

DS1 assaults a FOREST MOON - DS1 destroyed.

DS2 is nearing completion above a FOREST MOON - DS2 destroyed.

Not a good track record regarding the DS's and forest moons, and creativity for that matter. If anyone builds a DS3 the first thing they should do is start destroying every overly vegetated moon with the crew screaming in terror each time they find a new one.

Maybe, just maybe, it is supposed to be Yavin in a stylized reveal, and is not even a plot point revealed. It is a teaser announcement, not an actual trailer.

Maybe, just maybe, it is supposed to be Yavin in a stylized reveal, and is not even a plot point revealed. It is a teaser announcement, not an actual trailer.

But that wouldn't be very fun to discuss.

Maybe, just maybe, it is supposed to be Yavin in a stylized reveal, and is not even a plot point revealed. It is a teaser announcement, not an actual trailer.

That's pretty much what I thought too. The proportions of the Death Star seem off, and the TIE fighter flying over the forest seems to suggest (canon-wise, at least) that it's not Yavin IV. I suspect this is just teaser imagery to get people excited more than something that's meant to be representative of what we'll see in the movie.

Maybe, just maybe, it is supposed to be Yavin in a stylized reveal, and is not even a plot point revealed. It is a teaser announcement, not an actual trailer.

While it is an announcement and a teaser and not a full blown trailer. It's far more efficient (and economical) to make it using content they are intending or hoping to use in the actual product... why spend money and time creating effects for a teaser then throw them away when you could instead then also use them in the product it is announcing?

Maybe, just maybe, it is supposed to be Yavin in a stylized reveal, and is not even a plot point revealed. It is a teaser announcement, not an actual trailer.

While it is an announcement and a teaser and not a full blown trailer. It's far more efficient (and economical) to make it using content they are intending or hoping to use in the actual product... why spend money and time creating effects for a teaser then throw them away when you could instead then also use them in the product it is announcing?

Cuz Hollywood...

Hi people! I would like to know if anyone with a mathematic mind can give me an aproximate mesure of the Death Star based on the picture we have seen, because that seems MORE than 120km and even 900km that are the most mentioned values.

Thanks!

I'm guessing that's artistic license. Film tends to make the earths moon look massive as well because it's so much cooler that way.

Of course it's also possible the death star is in a ridiculously low orbit for some reason....

Even when they do a teaser with content that doesn't specifically appear in the film, the content tends to be involved in the film in some manner.

I think it unlikely it is Yavin. Just like the desert world isn't Tatooine, I think we can expect new planets.

In regards to how big it appears, that will depend entirely to a degree on the size of the world you are on and the altitude of the orbit of the DS.

Maybe, just maybe, it is supposed to be Yavin in a stylized reveal, and is not even a plot point revealed. It is a teaser announcement, not an actual trailer.

While it is an announcement and a teaser and not a full blown trailer. It's far more efficient (and economical) to make it using content they are intending or hoping to use in the actual product... why spend money and time creating effects for a teaser then throw them away when you could instead then also use them in the product it is announcing?

I think they made it as a way of pitching the idea. With digital stuff being relatively cheap it can be easier to make a video to say "here's my idea for a Star Wars movie" than it is to try to describe it with words and hope that the studio people have enough imagination to get what you're talking about.

So, it's hard to get an "aproximate" size idea or as you said, seems just an "artistic license"?

So, it's hard to get an "aproximate" size idea or as you said, seems just an "artistic license"?

You have to know how big the planet is you are on, and how far away the object is you are looking at to make any accurate measurement of size.

Maybe, just maybe, it is supposed to be Yavin in a stylized reveal, and is not even a plot point revealed. It is a teaser announcement, not an actual trailer.

While it is an announcement and a teaser and not a full blown trailer. It's far more efficient (and economical) to make it using content they are intending or hoping to use in the actual product... why spend money and time creating effects for a teaser then throw them away when you could instead then also use them in the product it is announcing?

Did you know that books have trailers now? They show very little in the teaser, and I think that a company like Disney can afford to spend some money doing a teaser, knowing that they won't use any of it.

Maybe, just maybe, it is supposed to be Yavin in a stylized reveal, and is not even a plot point revealed. It is a teaser announcement, not an actual trailer.

While it is an announcement and a teaser and not a full blown trailer. It's far more efficient (and economical) to make it using content they are intending or hoping to use in the actual product... why spend money and time creating effects for a teaser then throw them away when you could instead then also use them in the product it is announcing?

So by that reasoning, Alec Guinness is going to be in the new movie? ;P

Did you know that books have trailers now? They show very little in the teaser, and I think that a company like Disney can afford to spend some money doing a teaser, knowing that they won't use any of it.

I think this shows a bit of trying to really stretch what I said..

1) I didn't say it was impossible, I merely stated it is more common (due to it saving time and money) to use content one actually intends to make use of in the movie then to generate new content that is not intended to be used in the product.

2) Since the voice over from Alec Guiness is something they already have this is in fact even more economical as they don't need to make it at all, they just edit what they already have. So that still fits within my statement. Now, if they had all new footage of some actor leading a charge against a base I would find it highly likely that actor would appear in the movie. Key part here 'all new' if they reuse footage from somewhere else they're again just recycling to save time and money.

3) Sure, books have trailers/commercials, so does food. That is really trying to stretch things there as there is a fundamental difference.. one doesn't eat commercial footage.. so there's no chance of reusing that commercial material in the finished Big Mac product.

My statement is still entirely valid, it is cheaper and easier for them to use footage the expect to use in their movie. This doesn't mean they couldn't have decided to make footage specifically for the teaser. However, it seems likely they didn't do this given the benefits of reusing the content.

Obviously the jest I intended was not recieved.

While I agree on being more economical, I don't think they (Disney) are concerned about money. Now, as to reusing footage, has the movie even begun principal photography and production? There may be ZERO footage available.

They wanted to wow people at the Celebration, and spending several hundred, or a thousand dollars to make a teaser to generate excitement and word of mouth is worth the cost and a paltry amount to the house of mouse. If there was nothing ready to use yet, creating something would be needed. Have you ever been to a show/presentation that does a major announent and detail reveal without something to 'wow' people with visually? I have. It doesn't go over well. Many people respond better to something dramatic, like the teaser, compared to a static image on a slide.

My issue with Godzilla was not that there was very little Godzilla in it. That--as has been pointed out--is pretty typical for a Godzilla film. My issue was that twice in the film the scene cut away just as the kaiju were about to fight each other. I liked the first time it happened; it made me more excited and tense about the upcoming fight scenes. But the second time the scene ended immediately before a fight, when the monsters were already in San Francisco and he movie was reaching its crescendo, I was very let down. It almost felt like a mean blow. Why tempt me with awesome Godzilla fights if you are going to purposefully avoid them?

I'm just worried about seeing X-Wings take off to engage an Imperial fleet, and then suddenly cutting to a dimly-lit scene of the two protagonists watching it on a small holo-vid screen and crying.

Obviously the jest I intended was not recieved.

While I agree on being more economical, I don't think they (Disney) are concerned about money. Now, as to reusing footage, has the movie even begun principal photography and production? There may be ZERO footage available.

They wanted to wow people at the Celebration, and spending several hundred, or a thousand dollars to make a teaser to generate excitement and word of mouth is worth the cost and a paltry amount to the house of mouse. If there was nothing ready to use yet, creating something would be needed. Have you ever been to a show/presentation that does a major announent and detail reveal without something to 'wow' people with visually? I have. It doesn't go over well. Many people respond better to something dramatic, like the teaser, compared to a static image on a slide.

Sorry about that.. it's been a long and stressful week already it appears.

Like I said, it's possible they could have used footage strictly to build up some hype.

Personally, I still find it more likely that if they were going to spend the money to make footage they would make footage they might actually be able to use in the movie as well. Not a guarantee, I just find it the more likely path.

I really think it's pretty common practice AND fairly cheap to make an animatic, a teaser, a trailer, which temporary and just conceptual.

They almost always make lots of animatics which are used only to visualize what's going into a sequence, and it hardly costs anything to make a simple teaser--just look on YouTube, there are loads of people doing them on their home computers with After Effects or Maya or something.

I really think it's pretty common practice AND fairly cheap to make an animatic, a teaser, a trailer, which temporary and just conceptual.

They almost always make lots of animatics which are used only to visualize what's going into a sequence, and it hardly costs anything to make a simple teaser--just look on YouTube, there are loads of people doing them on their home computers with After Effects or Maya or something.

Indeed, in fact the way it works you can actually reuse the "teaser material" in a different way in the final product so that it will be unidentifiable compared to the original material.

A good example I recall was an ILM panel on EPII I attended at a con. They were showing some quick renders of the area battle from different angles. If you didn't know you'd think it was totally new material. In fact some of the shots actually looked far more horrific then the material in the finished film.

Also there was a demo of a cloth simulation failure... Jar Jar shouted "Obi!"... Ran up to Obi-wan... hugged him... and then Jar Jar's clothes fell off... Leaving Obi-wan standing there... hugging a naked Jar Jar.....