The A-Wing is my favorite canon ship of all time. It's so well-designed and so beautiful. As a model though, I'll agree it leaves a little to be desired. I wish they could have done something cooler with the laser canons. They're so prominently placed, making them look meaner and more gun-like would have been nice.
Edited by NightshrikeI Don't Understand: The hate over the K-Wing
The A-Wing is my favorite canon ship of all time. It's so well-designed and so beautiful. As a model though, I'll agree it leaves a little to be desired. I wish they could have done something cooler with the laser canons. They're so prominently placed, making them look meaner and more gun-like would have been nice.
I just dont like how the Y-wing feels so small and the A-wing so big.
Where the heck is the Y-wing getting that 5 hull from anyways, being so small to the A-wing. I don't fly X's and Y's with A wings anymore, because the scaling just looks off. :/
The A-Wing is smaller than the Y-Wing. The issue is that the A-Wing's canopy is mis-scaled in the original model. If you actually measure it, the canopy works out to being something like over ten feet long, which is a little excessive, in my opinion. Though, modern fighter canopies can be quite long as well, 8ft or so.
Yeah, the A-wing is way out of scale. I also think the Y wing should have been a bit bigger. The X wing is a bit deceiving because it's got a nose like Cyrano.
While i like the K-Wing design, I'm not for the ball turret. I can just see it breaking off. Ball....
well, we're seven pages in so it's probably come up but...
looking at the K-wing's card, I see a potential source of hate: one agility and the crew slot
well, we're seven pages in so it's probably come up but...
looking at the K-wing's card, I see a potential source of hate: one agility and the crew slot
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While there will be ways to make the Kwing into a super tanky ship it still wonot be as obnoxious as the falcon. For one it wonot be able to evade stack nearly as well. For another it lacks the firepower and (probably)obscene dial the falcon has.well, we're seven pages in so it's probably come up but...
looking at the K-wing's card, I see a potential source of hate: one agility and the crew slot
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in complete agreement with everything posted here (plus it can't SLAM and shoot
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just putting it out there, because even if he isn't obscene 3PO is still an annoying bugger
Yeah, I always pictured it looking more like THIS, than the "official" interpretation.
Yeah, I always pictured it looking more like THIS, than the "official" interpretation.
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Where'd that image come from? It makes a lot more sense than the canon version.
Where the heck is the Y-wing getting that 5 hull from anyways...
Think hardened and redundant systems. Suppose the Y-wing isn't actually any more heavily armored than an X-wing or A-wing--but a Y-wing can limp home with damage that would cause catastrophic failures in an A-wing or severely cripple an X-wing.
(After all, there are real-world examples of things like an A-10 losing half a wing and still returning to base. That couldn't happen with an F-117, for reasons that have very little to do with armor or size and everything to do with the relative complexity and delicacy of their onboard systems.)
Yeah, the A-wing is way out of scale.
This is sort of like complaining that a Z-95 won't actually fit in the Hound's Tooth model, though. FFG claims they're scaling faithfully to the canon size; the fact that the canon size doesn't support parts of the in-universe fiction isn't their fault.
Edited by Vorpal SwordI understand it: it is people whining because they don't like the color of their ice-cream. They don't even know what it tastes like yet--forget about that because they just want to complain.
I, for one, find the K-wing to be fantastic looking. But that is my opinion and I do not expect anyone to share it with me. I am looking forward to how it plays!
Yeah, I always pictured it looking more like THIS, than the "official" interpretation.
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I almost like that! Why didn't they do this? I mean, it has some issues, but those are largely related to polygon count. That could be cleaned up into something really cool.
Yeah, I always pictured it looking more like THIS, than the "official" interpretation.
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Where'd that image come from? It makes a lot more sense than the canon version.
I believe that was a model from an X-wing Alliance mod but I can't be sure. I remember seeing it a long time ago. I actually like that as a model. Especially if the bottom wings fold up. It looks way more inline with other Rebel fighters. No stupid hardpoints either!
Edited by Jo JoYeah, I always pictured it looking more like THIS, than the "official" interpretation.
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That one looks great. I would so rather have that one than the official one
Mel, gosric?
Looks like the result of a collision between 2 B Wings and a bar of soap...
Yeah, I always pictured it looking more like THIS, than the "official" interpretation.
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Am I going to get crucified if I say that I think that... thing actually looks far worse than the canon version?
If that little lump in the back is an astromech and not a turret, I'd be all for that version
but if the origin is a mod, then FFG probably wouldn't touch it. The canon K-wing might be infamous to the point that it's known only for being ugly, but there's no such thing as bad publicity
I think everyone agrees that the bastard offspring of our loveable neighborhood A-10 and that trampy, ski-equipped Cessna that kept hanging around, is retardedly ugly. We should also be prepared for the fact that (apart from the SLAM) Its probably going to manoeuver like a fat dog on a skateboard.
However given the spoilers so far, its got a couple of unique mechanics going for it and there are already a range of possibilities with the existing upgrade cards to make it a worthwhile addition. Miranda looks like a winner already and the new turret and ordnance will hopefully only improve things. Even without EPT or systems slots, its got a lot to offer as is.
Looking forward to getting at least 3, though storage wise Im going to have to come up with somewhere else to put them, as the size of the model looks like its too big for the organizer boxes I use.
Yeah, I always pictured it looking more like THIS, than the "official" interpretation.
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Am I going to get crucified if I say that I think that... thing actually looks far worse than the canon version?
Well... it looks simplistic... and... yeah.
Preording FFG K-wing now, if their are preordering sites availabe.
Basing a spaceship on Airplane practicality is a pointless exercise.
Unless of course it's role requires it be suitable for atmospheric flight and planetary landings as well...
Antigravity tech and aerodynamic particle shielding. Things they already have and use.
Basing a spaceship on Airplane practicality is a pointless exercise.
Unless of course it's role requires it be suitable for atmospheric flight and planetary landings as well...
or, more simply, it's a recognizable look for people enjoying whatever medium the ship is present in
Am I going to get crucified if I say that I think that... thing actually looks far worse than the canon version?
I suspect that is a function of the bad video game graphics. If that model was given a decent, physical miniature I bet you would come around.
Yeah, I always pictured it looking more like THIS, than the "official" interpretation.
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Am I going to get crucified if I say that I think that... thing actually looks far worse than the canon version?
No I wouldn't crucify you for that opinion. That looks far worse than what were getting. That looks like a falcon center,Y-wing, B-wing, and Z-95 got thrown together by a 6 year old trying to use the force for the first time. Although what we are getting is a mix of Y-wing and B-wing, its more polished, and actually looks like a bomber. Not another X-wing concept reject.
Yeah, I always pictured it looking more like THIS, than the "official" interpretation.
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Where'd that image come from? It makes a lot more sense than the canon version.
I believe that was a model from an X-wing Alliance mod but I can't be sure. I remember seeing it a long time ago. I actually like that as a model. Especially if the bottom wings fold up. It looks way more inline with other Rebel fighters. No stupid hardpoints either!
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's an Alliance Mod. I just Google searched "K-Wing" to see if the description from the book had ever been rendered into a picture, and found that. Pretty spot-on, if you ask me. And yeah, if it were a more polished mini instead of this low-polygon version, it'd look pretty slick.
Also, one of my all time favorite vehicles is far more impractical than the K-Wing. The AT-AT. Ground pressure, an additional side to armor (the bottom), poor weapons coverage, complicated motive systems, there are SO many reasons it doesn't work as a military vehicle. But despite all that the AT-AT is just plain COOL in a way that a practical "box on tracks" just wouldn't be. I cannot fault its inclusion in Star Wars, in fact I deeply appreciate it.
I was reading through the thread and saw this.
The AT-AT is not impractical at all. If we had the technology to build legged armored vehicles that were reliable & could meet a realistic budget, we would do so (presumably the FtL-capable Empire, ruled by dictatorship, does not have things like cost restrictions or an annual budget.
). The terrain navigation and flexibility of motion would simply overwhelm any drawbacks (say, for example, speed). What, you're going to drive a tank across Hoth? You won't make it half a mile before your treads are thrashed. And what if you hit a crevasse? You'll be lucky to reverse in time before you're going down the chasm. How are you planning to shoot down the ground to air attackers that will be shooting at your top armor? The AT-AT may have blind spots in the side and rear (that are covered by it's buddies), but you've got a ceiling on your cannon as well as a maximum practical traversal speed - you're swinging the entire gun assembly on a central axis, vs the AT-AT being able to rapidly tilt it's weapons more or less wherever it likes because the head's on a neck joint.
Legged vehicles could just do it all. Urban combat, swamps, jungles, mountains... anywhere a bunch of guys or dogs can go, your armor can now go. They can hunker down like your guys, look around and maintain situational awareness without relying entirely on instruments...
Certain details could be argued about, like the overall size (I honestly doubt you could have it much smaller if it was to be an armed & armored troop transport), but the forward-mounted weapons & fire control system makes sense (this has become a staple of modern combat vehicles; tanks have a 360 turret, yes, but anything that doesn't will fix their firepower forward because it feels more natural for a gunner to shoot that way). Side & rear turrets are kind of impractical; you need to house the crew, ammunitions, FCS, etc for each weapon, and it's really awkward to fire a weapon outside the plane of motion on the vehicle you're traveling with (these are the reasons that sponson guns were retired during WWII). It's better just to move in formation and let your buddies cover your flank.
If anything was ridiculous, it was the Snowspeeder tow cable guns. Like, lol, how did they get that much thick cable into that craft's little gun? And they spooled it out at supersonic speed in below freezing temperature?
Well, okay; I guess they couldn't have the rebels getting stomped without showing the at least taking one of the monsters down.
All K-Wing pilots must feel like this: