Most of my objections have already been raised. I will say to the point of the practicality standpoint that all of the Star Wars ships have some issues with practicality.
The glorious STAR WARS universe is a SCIENCE FANTASY .
I Don't Understand: The hate over the K-Wing
Aesthetics is very personal so I don't understand how you can ask why people hate the K-Wing.
Because its the ugliest thing in the game so far, in my opinion (actually I would like to see a survey to see how many do and don't).
Edit: And an example for a front turret under the nose:
That turret is nothing at all like the nose turret on the k-wing, it is on a ship maybe 3 times the size and looks like it was designed as part of the craft, not bolted on as an afterthought.
A turret like that would be faaar less objectionable, and, in fact, has been suggested a couple times in assorted threads this weekend as one of the ways to mod the ship to help fix its aesthetics.
The turret in the example is in its general function like the turret of the K-Wing. Aesthetics are a different problem. But I think it will be the same like it was with the E-Wing: Some people are fine with it and others do some modifications, that are also cool (or cooler
). From this point of view I don't have a big problem with this ship. And I really didn't liked the concept illustration of the K-Wing that was posted in the pre-Wave 7 speculation threads
ugh the more i look at the punisher the more i hate it actually. maybe i will sit out of this wave.
the kihraxz looks kinda derpy and dumb too. not sleek at all.
maybe its armada time for me
I dont know why everyone has a problem with side by side cockpits.
its been a core image in star wars since 'empire strikes back'
The bespin twin pod cloud car had two cockpits side by side... equally loads of real world aircraft have had it, mainly prototypes but a lot of aircraft have used it.
Mainly it's just an ugly mess, that turret is stupid.
I think a lot of it boils down to, "It's not the ship I've been hoping/saying/predicting it would be and so therefore it is bad."
Did anyone else like the first post just because of all the Space Jam references?
I do think the K-Wing is a rather ugly ship, but I care more about what it does mechanically. If it does something cool or just fulfills a need for a list I'm building, I won't change my mind because I'm not a fan of how it looks.
I think a lot of it boils down to, "It's not the ship I've been hoping/saying/predicting it would be and so therefore it is bad."
I've been saying it's the next rebel ship for six months now I wasn't shocked, I did fail to predict the punisher but then so did most people.
Aesthetics is very personal so I don't understand how you can ask why people hate the K-Wing.
Because its the ugliest thing in the game so far, in my opinion (actually I would like to see a survey to see how many do and don't).
Indeed. Might as well start a topic called "I Don't Understand The Love For The K-Wing" while we're at it. Wave 7 is clearly the ugly puppy wave (Kirhaxz aside, which really only needs a Black Sun paintjob).
I dont know why everyone has a problem with side by side cockpits.
its been a core image in star wars since 'empire strikes back'
The bespin twin pod cloud car had two cockpits side by side...
Yes, and it looked like a pile of soiled laundry too.
Side by side cockpits which are totally separate? Really, the mind boggles.
Here is a reference for that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_F-82_Twin_Mustang
And I think the extra winglets of the K-Wing are needed for landing. Although of course it's not the best solution (funtional and aesthetic), but at least they could make sense.
Edit: And an example for a front turret under the nose:
Chin turrets exist in a lot of places. I defy you, however, to find me a chin turret that is also a ball turret. Go for it. Knock yourself out. You won't find it. The weight of that would be ungodly, and would make the plane ludicrously nose heavy. The B-17G chin turret was added because the B-17F only had a single forward-firing machine gun in the nose for use against head-on attacks. The Luftwaffe figured that out, and started attacking the bomber-stream head-on. This allowed them to face fewer guns, and for the closure speed to be such that it made it much harder for the bombers to hit them. So, the B-17G addressed that fact by adding a chin turret which was controlled by the bombardier and which could deliver forward firepower without disturbing the bombardier's forward view for his Norden bombsight.
The F-82 Twin Mustang's cockpits were retained so that you could have two pilots, alternating control on long flights. The whole design of the plane was long-range escort missions. However, the plane itself is something of a stop-gap design. It's a sandwiching of two Mustang fuselages to achieve the necessary speed and range for the fighter's design. That's not what's going on with the K-wing. The K-wing has two cockpits within a single fuselage, which, again, makes no sense.
I could also try to find a real working laser sword.
Don't get me wrong. You are absolutely right with everything.
I just want to say: Star Wars ist not like Star Trek or something. Although some Star Wars designs refer to or are inspired by really existing designs/objects, there are more fantasy elements in it (and some things maybe just seem strange). At the end it's a fictional fantasy-world created for entertainment, so maybe things shouldn't be judged too fussy. So let's just see what's coming with the K-Wing ... and it surely will be fun
Comparing the K-wing to the A-10 is an insult. I just hope the K-wing isn't all that great. The poor X-wing is already very limited in competitive play. If the k- wing is good how sad will it be to see more krack-wings (new ninickname, patent pending) than x- wings on the table?
What if the K-Wing indirectly boosts the X-Wing too?
I could also try to find a real working laser sword.
I just want to say: Star Wars ist not like Star Trek or something. Although some Star Wars designs refer to or are inspired by really existing designs/objects, there are more fantasy elements in it (and some things maybe just seem strange). At the end it's a fictional fantasy-world created for entertainment, so maybe things shouldn't be judged too fussy. So let's just see what's coming with the K-Wing ... and it surely will be fun
Except you're including the K-Wing in Star Wars. The K-Wing isn't canon. Most of the ships that appear in Star Wars are way, way, more polished in their design aesthetic and functionality than that monstrosity.
Alright, these are ALL the images that I could find that have the K-WIng in them.
Haven't seen this one posted here yet:
It's grown on me a bit since seeing this angle.
There are a few different angles of the other ships I haven't seen on this forum yet either, found on FB groups:
Edited by ViscerothSWGI don't get it either. To me, the bloody K-wing is the best-looking ship in that whole wave... Never liked the looks of the Hound's tooth, the purple paintjob on that scum fighter is just ugly to me, and that super bomber is just plain ridiculous... Just, like, my opinion though...
I could also try to find a real working laser sword.
I just want to say: Star Wars ist not like Star Trek or something. Although some Star Wars designs refer to or are inspired by really existing designs/objects, there are more fantasy elements in it (and some things maybe just seem strange). At the end it's a fictional fantasy-world created for entertainment, so maybe things shouldn't be judged too fussy. So let's just see what's coming with the K-Wing ... and it surely will be fun
Except you're including the K-Wing in Star Wars. The K-Wing isn't canon. Most of the ships that appear in Star Wars are way, way, more polished in their design aesthetic and functionality than that monstrosity.
That's true. Polishing is a general problem of the EU-ships. Good design needs time (and of course a good designer). Just look at concepts of episode 4. They also doesn't look that good, but at the end they had the time to polish these sketches till the design works in every detail.
Yeah. I totally agree.
Somewhat obnoxiously, I now find myself anxiously wanting the k-wing to be released more than the other 3, just so that I can take a swing at converting it. Until it is released I can't change its appearance. Once I get the model in hand, maybe I can make it better and then in my mind all k-wings will be the improved version.
What's not to understand? They are stupid looking and they bring another boring turret to the game.
Here is a reference for that: http://en.wikipedia....82_Twin_Mustang
No. I'm sorry, but just no.
The F-82 wasn't even operational by the time WWII ended, and was obsolete by the start of the conflict that it cut it's teeth on (Korea). It was almost immediately superseded by the P-80; the die-hard piston aircraft proponents could cludge together the zenith of that era all they like to try and overcome the range & fatigue limitations, but even the power of two Mustangs literally welded together just wasn't going to cut it in the emerging new era of jet powered planes.