"But you guys, the Hound's Tooth is too big in the EU to be a large ship in X-Wing!"

By Comradebot, in X-Wing

Clone Wars is part of the new canon from LFL as well. So showing up in Bounty makes it canon.

And I can't thank the showrunners enough for that. There's a lot of stuff from the former EU they've thrown in that's now established canon. The Hound's Tooth and the Selkath species are the two that really got my nerdbones all giddy.

SELKATH?!

WHERE?

I must see!!!

The episode "The Box" has one, and is also hands down one of the most amazing episodes of the series. Heck it's some of the best SW action ever.

It's a knock-off of "The Cube", but with a who's-who of over-the-top bounty hunters.

The episode "Pursuit of Peace" also gives one (yet another bounty hunter!) significant air time, but isn't quite as awesome of an episode.

And sadly, being Clone Wars, they don't speak with their delightful language like in KOTOR.

And sadly, since it is only seen on-screen and their species never mentioned, they aren't really Selkath anymore. But that language is boss though.

The dimensions are whatever LFL tells FFG they are, and that's all really anyone need worry about.

A-effing-men ...

I am so sick and tired of the never ending discussions as to what is canon, what is too big, etc.

One reason why I would love them to release an EPIC sized SSD ... not because I think it is appropriate, but more so I can see at least 1,000 heads on this forum explode over its size ...

:P :D :lol:

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Hound's Tooth: Length 41m

The only issue i have with this model size is that it is supposed to hold a Z-95. Where the hell is that thing supposed to fit? On a cycle rack?

Taken from S​TAR WARS The New Essential Guide to Vehicles & Vessels published by Del Ray Books in 2003.

Millennium Falcon size: 27 M long

"Hound's Tooth" size: 28 M long

Rebel Transport size: 90 M long

Rebel Blockade Runner size: 150 M long

Yup I know these are not exact to other sources but it is from a source I found for Star Wars cannon.

Edited by Marinealver

And I hope someplace, somewhere, that entire group of dreamsmashers that argued for the Hound's Tooth to be a Huge Ship are eating some delicious, delicious crow.

I assumed it would be a huge ship. Reluctantly so. I'm chuffed to bits it'll feature in standard play. He's the bounty hunter and ship I wanted ever since I started playing the game and well before scum was announced. He's getting played regardless of how competitive he is. I can't help but feel that he's going to have some funky abilities and definitely arrive with some new illicit tech.

The only issue i have with this model size is that it is supposed to hold a Z-95. Where the hell is that thing supposed to fit? On a cycle rack?

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So, whats the issue now?

The only issue i have with this model size is that it is supposed to hold a Z-95. Where the hell is that thing supposed to fit? On a cycle rack?

IDK but I've always hated the name.

"Yeah, it's a nasty pup! It'll bite you despite it being small! arf arf, yeah, Nasty pup! blarhblarhgl!"

The only issue i have with this model size is that it is supposed to hold a Z-95. Where the hell is that thing supposed to fit? On a cycle rack?

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So, whats the issue now?

your scaling...

what did you do here?

Why is the Z-95 so tiny? Is it in the background?

Edited by Corellian Corvette

The only issue i have with this model size is that it is supposed to hold a Z-95. Where the hell is that thing supposed to fit? On a cycle rack?

yc4A7CNl.jpg

So, whats the issue now?

your scaling...

what did you do here?

Why is the Z-95 so tiny? Is it in the background?

Bub's foot isn't huge, it's in the foreground.

with sketchup you can import a pic and then assign it a dimension. It's a rough scaling, but it's close enough to show the size difference .. the top front of hounds is the bridge, which housed the Z95 ship as well.

Sad thing about EU is the inconsistency of stats for things, but it is was it is.

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Redo your scaling bub, your Hounds Tooth is nearly 150m by those estimates.

BAH, Thanks for that catch!!

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Any time. I do a lot of scale work myself on Paint.

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I can safely assert that the CR-90 pictured is just about how big it's supposed to be, at 2.5m per pixel. Mind you these designs are old and fairly outdated but still, I work on a strict scale.

impressive .. seen this older site ? http://deckplans.00sf.com/Index.html wish i had 1/2 the skill to mspaint ships ..

11.8M Z95-HH

47.4M Hound's Tooth

62.0M Hound's Tooth

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impressive

Thanks. My most recent work is significantly better though.

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I think this thread now has 4 different lengths for the Hound's Tooth. All sourced.

The Falcon is 34.75 meters. The Decimator is 38 meters.

If they are using the 47.4 meter size listed on starwars.com, this ship will be nearly 1.5 inches longer the Decimator at 1/270 scale. My guess is that it will be smaller.

I think this thread now has 4 different lengths for the Hound's Tooth. All sourced.

The Falcon is 34.75 meters. The Decimator is 38 meters.

If they are using the 47.4 meter size listed on starwars.com, this ship will be nearly 1.5 inches longer the Decimator at 1/270 scale. My guess is that it will be smaller.

The thing is we won't know the scale unless we can see the actual model. Now the thing is the hound's tooth was more of a special edition edit in CGI and it was also a deleted scene. When FFG looked at making the models to scale they actually had sources to match the scale of a Tie Fighter to an X-wing.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think the Hound's Tooth never had a physical model to begin with so that could cause some variance between the different cannon sources for design length.

I think this thread now has 4 different lengths for the Hound's Tooth. All sourced.

The Falcon is 34.75 meters. The Decimator is 38 meters.

If they are using the 47.4 meter size listed on starwars.com, this ship will be nearly 1.5 inches longer the Decimator at 1/270 scale. My guess is that it will be smaller.

The thing is we won't know the scale unless we can see the actual model. Now the thing is the hound's tooth was more of a special edition edit in CGI and it was also a deleted scene. When FFG looked at making the models to scale they actually had sources to match the scale of a Tie Fighter to an X-wing.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think the Hound's Tooth never had a physical model to begin with so that could cause some variance between the different cannon sources for design length.

LFL gives FFG the dimensions of the ships. FFG then takes that and multiplies it by 1/270. That is the size of the mini. Yes, it is true they got to utilize the production models for the OT ships in order to get measurements as accurate as possible, but they have made several ships that don't have that luxury already.

Edited by rowdyoctopus

I think the question that really matters is this: Will it fit in my Plano? :)

Quick, someone at Celebration take a measuring tape to the FFG booth!

I was gonna say the same thing. Hound's Tooth will be huge on every axis, there's no way it's gonna fit in my normal case.

How bout this?

Puts it @ just over 6" ?

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Edited by XAQT78

I think this thread now has 4 different lengths for the Hound's Tooth. All sourced.

The Falcon is 34.75 meters. The Decimator is 38 meters.

If they are using the 47.4 meter size listed on starwars.com, this ship will be nearly 1.5 inches longer the Decimator at 1/270 scale. My guess is that it will be smaller.

The thing is we won't know the scale unless we can see the actual model. Now the thing is the hound's tooth was more of a special edition edit in CGI and it was also a deleted scene. When FFG looked at making the models to scale they actually had sources to match the scale of a Tie Fighter to an X-wing.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think the Hound's Tooth never had a physical model to begin with so that could cause some variance between the different cannon sources for design length.

When was it ever in the Special Edition or in a deleted scene? It was invented for the EU, and so far the only C-level canon ship to be upgraded to G-level canon is the Outrider.

How bout this?

Puts it @ just over 6" ?

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That would match the ~42m size. Nearly exactly using your estimated calculations. Math comes out to 41.931m using 15.53cm.

Did the Deci same way, came out to 14.52cm, which is 5 3/4" so .. seems about right for scaling size.

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