"A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Then there are these guys.

The car designed by Homer. (Edit: orginal image broken?)

The space-fighter designed by a bored 6th grader in the mid 90's.

In all seriousness, the rebels don't have much left to choose from. I sorta expected the Havoc but I will be interested to see how FFG fits this beast into the game. If it's fun, Ill fly it.

I will now be painting my K-Wing lime green with a garish hood ornament. Dunno how I'm gonna top the fist I put on the ugly-Z, but I'll find something.

The space-fighter designed by a bored 6th grader in the mid 90's.

Has the education system really slipped that far? I was a bored 6th grader in the mid 80's and designed a better K-wing ship than this.

In the 90's everything was more X-TREME!

I always liked to compare the K-wing to the A-10.

These ships won't be winning beauty contests but is any rebel ship, really? The two features of the K-Wing are the single-wing design and low-hanging ordnance racks. I expect this one to feel more like a space bomber than the Y and B wing fighters, which function well in a fighter role. About the only thing going for the K-Wing is going to be the turret and once that's gone, it'll only have torpedoes to fall back on.

I'm one of the few I guess who doesn't mind the K-Wing especially when you consider some of the alternatives. We could have gotten the H-Wing, which is about as bad as some of us Empire fans see the TIE Punisher being.

....and it has to have five horns, you can never find a horn when you really need one.

Honestly I like the look of the K-wing. I mean it's a bomber, not even a medium bomber like the Y-wing, so of course it's going to look off. But overall I love the shape... plus that ordnance.... EU says 19 slots, i'm guessing that will translate over to 1-2 bombs, 4 missile slots (Card ability 1 time use only, because the K-Wing was known for being 1 run bombers, like WW2 era bombers.) 1-2 crew slots, and an elite pilot talent for the named pilots, maybe some other upgrade ideas as well.

The only thing I think is really garish on the K-Wing is the third engine mounted on top. It looks just sort-of slapped on, and I think thrust from that position would give it incredible performance problems rather than adding speed.

A stabilizer or something would've worked better.

The turret placement on the K-Wing is quite true to the design that the ship was clearly based on:

...Granted, the B-17's performance was really only hindered by those turrets (it's payload was terrible in comparison to the Lancaster, owing mostly to the space it had to surrender to machine gun ammunition and gunners - neither of which did a particularly admirable job of protecting the plane), but if you're going to mount turrets on your bomber, you mount them towards the front.

I can live with its looks. I am mostly curious as to how FFG is going to handle ordnance. Like that they are doubling down on it this wave.

But I will be calling the K-wing The Homer.

It's TIE squashin', 'Mator smackin' flyin' machine!

K-Wing-er-oo-ohh

K-Wing-er-oooo...

Yeah, that's what I thought. Then someone mentioned "The Homer" and my Simpsons-obsessive-side squeed with joy at the reference

The nose ball-turret and the top-mounted engine are what bother me most about the design. I think with a sharp enough x-acto and some filing, it'd be possible to come up with something ugly, but respectable.

Looking at the picture of the miniature itself, I'm not sure the rear engine won't be tolerable, but that ball turret will have to go. Take off the underling wings too and it might actually be a tolerable ship to look at.

Design process for the K-Wing:

"We need a bomber"

"Where will we put the bombs?"

"On wings!"

"But we need MORE BOMBS!"

"THEN WE NEED MORE WINGS!"

"AND IT NEEDS TO BE REALLY FAST!"

"THEN WE NEED MORE ENGINES!!!1!1!"

It's TIE squashin', 'Mator smackin' flyin' machine!

K-Wing-er-oo-ohh

K-Wing-er-oooo...

I don't know what this is a reference to, but it has inspired me to always refer to the K-Wing as the Kangeroo from now on.

You're welcome.

You're welcome.

Thank you! I haven't watched Simpsons in so long.

I had to rewatch that episode again because I felt so happy about this thread.

S2E15 if anyone else is a loyal fan

Much like the rest of the EU, it's held in place more by nostalgia than actual quality and skill of artistans.

I like that it functionally it serves a new and interesting purpose for the Rebel side in X-Wing, and I welcome it to the game as a new piece.

However, the really sad thing is that aesthetically it's not that far off from looking good as a larger bomber/fighter. Although more problematic than the E-Wing, the K-Wing would just need parts shifted around to be more concise and flowing.

K-wing designe is simply more realistic then the designe of most SW ships.

Looking at the picture of the miniature itself, I'm not sure the rear engine won't be tolerable, but that ball turret will have to go. Take off the underling wings too and it might actually be a tolerable ship to look at.

Disagree about the engine- that's got to be moved. The lower wing, I think can be saved. But the ball turret's definitely got to go. I think replacing it with a smaller rotating chin mount, such last the AH-1/AH-64/most modern attack helicopters, wouldn't be a bad step.

However, the really sad thing is that aesthetically it's not that far off from looking good as a larger bomber/fighter. Although more problematic than the E-Wing, the K-Wing would just need parts shifted around to be more concise and flowing.

Totally agree. it's got elements that are good. It just needs some refinement.

The space-fighter designed by a bored 6th grader in the mid 90's.

**** impressive for a 6th grader.

The ffg version does look less goofy than the illustration. On the second thought I think the design can be fixed a bit by cutting of underwings and changing them to missile pylons like those on Z95.

Something has to be done with the turret (chop-chop!) and probably with than engine thing on top.

There is literally nothing that can be done to save the K-wing. It is, much like Homer's car, an Edsel. Except the Edsel was better-designed and better looking. I can't believe people are actually comparing it to a B-17. It's nothing like a B-17. The B-17 guns actually were placed in logical position with real fields of fire. And the chin turret on the B-17 isn't a ball turret, the ball turret is placed closer to the center of mass so the weight of it doesn't give the thing incredibly terrible flight characteristics. Those who compare it to the A-10 are ignoring 90% of the K-wing design, which includes two useless side-by-side cockpits, a third engine thrown on top for no reason, a rear gunner whose purpose seems to be to shoot his own engine, a chin ball turret which adds a horrendous amount of weight for zero functionality, and then two weird legs sticking off the wings because, hey, it had to look like the letter K!

It is a terrible looking ship.