That second one looks more Lambdalike, although more like someone sat on a Lambda.

Storyline wise, the Missile Boat, along with the XG-1 Assault Gunboat are manufactored by Cygnus Space Works. The same company that manufactures the Lambda Shuttle. It would make sense that asthetically they would look related.

Yeah, it would. Though I never shook the feeling that the XWA one was a completely different ship, same in many ways, but maybe with two pilots judging by cockpit width, and cheaper production costs with design refinements.

OK, I keep reading "But what about the XG-1/Missile Boat/Skipray/Scimitar" and fair enough...the first three I wouldn't mind seeing at all, based on what I've seen on Wookieepedia. But those are all Imperial craft.

I'll grant that the K-wing isn't exactly the most beautiful craft ever and the "mount ALL the hardpoints" look isn't going to appeal to everyone, but I don't mind it myself.

My question, for those with more exposure to the EU than I have, is this: was there really anything else in the Rebel arsenal suitable for a new ordnance carrier craft?

Ugh, they could have given us the H-Wing. Bemoan the K-Wing all you want, call the K-Wing what you want, but the K-Wing is not a brick with two Y-Wing pods glued to two Y-Wing engines and nothing else. The K-Wing is the most interesting by far of many other small starfighter designs they could have chosen to run with.

I wish we could have gotten the R-41 or T-Wing but right now I'd bet money those show up in Scum hands instead. Which means I'll probably never fly them because I'm not interested in the scum faction.

The need for bombers is the most likely reason LFL/FFG chose to give us the bland champion TIE Interdictor. Like what the Raider is doing for TIE Advanceds, I wouldn't be surprised if there are some ordnance tricks coming in both of the new space bombers. Ordnance has been a dud mechanic ever since wave 1, so this is their obvious attempt to fix it. I just had hoped that another, more attractive craft could have been chosen for this fix.

The Scimitar, for all the hate it's getting, is at least not a beefier TIE Bomber.

Oh wow. I'd never seen art for the K-Wing before.

I understand that this isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I dig that design. It very much resembles a lumbering old WWII bomber.

The 'Punisher' (lolz) is whatever. TIE ships for the most part just add cockpits or panels wherever. It doesn't look any uglier than the Defender or Bomber to me.

WWII bomber or A 10 Warthog. Perfect . Totally badass. Tie Scimitar would be better then Interdictor IMO.

They need to dump their stupid policy regarding the prequel stuff. There are way more players that would love to buy Naboo and ARC-170 fighters and LAAT gunships and Vulture droids and Tri-Fighters and Geonosian fighters (Clone Wars) then there are players that even know what these ships are let alone wants to buy them.

Remember it may not be their 'stupid policy' to dump. They are licensees, and are limited by what Lucasfilm will approve. That could be the issue here.

It's pretty amazing that they're allowed to make so many EU ships in the first place.

Bummer. I was really looking forward to the next wave. This is very disappointing.

It should be noted that FFG fixed nothing of the Z-95. They just used the Star Wars Galaxies version.

Did that have the underslung rockets?

I find it funny that in this negatively named thread that I got some error I've never seen before:

"YOU HAVE REACHED YOUR POSITIVE COMMENT LIMIT FOR THE DAY"

I hit LIKE too many times?

Will definitely get the Hound's Tooth, it's ugly but in a proper way that fits with the other designs. Interpunisher is a lazy design for a minor unit from an old RTS, and K-wing looks too much like a kid's toy.

These two are more important as a rules upgrade then actual ships, if the rules are good, people will fly them, if not - i doubt there'll be as much fan love as for y-wings for example.

That is a big concern of mine. As we move further into EU territory and ships become less familiar, will they make the stats slightly better to push purchases? Heck, I don't recognize these ships at all and had to look them up to see if these were FFG designs or something from a book or computer game.

I'm not saying they'll be obnoxiously broken, but there is a possibility that they'll create powerful upgrade cards or something in the packs to force purchases for competitive players. I'm not into that. I wasn't happy back when I needed 4 A-Wings to get PtL for my Interceptors and I'll be even more unhappy if they create an upgrade that fixes bombs or torpedoes that requires a bunch of K-Wing or Punisher purchases to allow me to play Bombers better in leagues.

The k-wing was bound to happen sooner or later and the game model actually looks really good, the 2 scum ships look pretty interesting its just that interdictor/punisher that is such a disappointment(and soo ugly) when absolutely nobody was clamouring for it when things like the assault gunboat,scimtar,missile boat etc were all popular choices.

They need to dump their stupid policy regarding the prequel stuff. There are way more players that would love to buy Naboo and ARC-170 fighters and LAAT gunships and Vulture droids and Tri-Fighters and Geonosian fighters (Clone Wars) then there are players that even know what these ships are let alone wants to buy them.

I think they are more concerned about the players that would quit if they had to face anything prequel related.

Yeah, well, some players are considering quitting over the K-wing. I certainly won't be playing in any more formal tournaments, as if someone put a K-wing across the table from me, I think I'd get up and leave.

Oh wow. I'd never seen art for the K-Wing before.

I understand that this isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I dig that design. It very much resembles a lumbering old WWII bomber.

The 'Punisher' (lolz) is whatever. TIE ships for the most part just add cockpits or panels wherever. It doesn't look any uglier than the Defender or Bomber to me.

WWII bomber or A 10 Warthog. Perfect . Totally badass. Tie Scimitar would be better then Interdictor IMO.

That looks nothing like either an A-10 or a WW2 bomber. Bombers from WW2 were logical in their layout. The A-10 is hyper-logical in its layout. The K-wing looks like an elementary school child's lego design.

Oh wow. I'd never seen art for the K-Wing before.

I understand that this isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I dig that design. It very much resembles a lumbering old WWII bomber.

The 'Punisher' (lolz) is whatever. TIE ships for the most part just add cockpits or panels wherever. It doesn't look any uglier than the Defender or Bomber to me.

WWII bomber or A 10 Warthog. Perfect . Totally badass. Tie Scimitar would be better then Interdictor IMO.

Yup, looks totally like a WW-2 Bomber. I hate the Scimitar with a passion though.

I find it funny that in this negatively named thread that I got some error I've never seen before:

"YOU HAVE REACHED YOUR POSITIVE COMMENT LIMIT FOR THE DAY"

I hit LIKE too many times?

Yup you can do that... have many times. You can also use to many smiles.

K-wing is fugly but if it is a decent bomber then fine. IT's the rebel B17.

Punisher... I got nothing. I am really trying to be positive but not only is it realy silly. it's filling a slot meant for more worthy craft. the XG1, missile boat or scimitar - as every other impy fan has pointed out.

K-wing is fugly but if it is a decent bomber then fine. IT's the rebel B17.

Punisher... I got nothing. I am really trying to be positive but not only is it realy silly. it's filling a slot meant for more worthy craft. the XG1, missile boat or scimitar - as every other impy fan has pointed out.

My theory on it is this.

FFG need bombers for the ordinance fix. The problem is the K-wing is the only one left for the Rebels (that I can come up with) and a few selections for the Empire. Also everybody knows the k-wing is, well lets say aesthetically challenged. If the Rebs got the kwing and the Imps got the awesome XG-1, they would be up in arms about it. So, that is why we got the Inderdictor/Punisher, to balance out the unhappiness of the factions.

For the record, I don't think they have jumped the shark. Are these my first choices, no. But the sky ain't falling either. Not to mention there are people who were really looking forward to these.

FFG jumped the shark with Wave VII most definitely. Everything from Wave VI onward supplements the game with compensatory upgrades in the regard of the mistakes made during the waves before.

With every OT ship published already I guess they also realized they went over the peak. I would say, this also may be the reason Star Wars Armada was released to give fans who consider leaving the game something to compensate with...

FFG need bombers for the ordinance fix.

The thing is, I don't think they *had* to do it this way. They could have released a "Rogue Squadron" expansion that had ordnance and X-wing fixes, using Y-wing aces as the bomber fix mechanism (you know, so the Rebs could have EPT Y-wings). There are still Y-wing variants in the catalog that could be exploited for this. This approach could have solved two problems that they've acknowledged simultaneously. As it is, if we assume this contains an ordnance fix, it still doesn't help the game's flagship.

Jumped the shark, though? Too soon to tell IMO. We need to see the mechanics for the new ships and associated upgrades to judge. An ordnance fix with these bombers might be amazing and reinvigorate a whole bunch of other ships.

The thing is, I don't think they *had* to do it this way. They could have released a "Rogue Squadron" expansion that had ordnance and X-wing fixes, using Y-wing aces as the bomber fix mechanism (you know, so the Rebs could have EPT Y-wings). There are still Y-wing variants in the catalog that could be exploited for this. This approach could have solved two problems that they've acknowledged simultaneously. As it is, if we assume this contains an ordnance fix, it still doesn't help the game's flagship.

Jumped the shark, though? Too soon to tell IMO. We need to see the mechanics for the new ships and associated upgrades to judge. An ordnance fix with these bombers might be amazing and reinvigorate a whole bunch of other ships.

My post was a bit tongue in cheek.

But yes, I agree with you that they could have done it that way as well. I think there are many who would have rather it be done like that.

I am not unhappy with the direction they chose though.

K-wing is fugly but if it is a decent bomber then fine. IT's the rebel B17.

Punisher... I got nothing. I am really trying to be positive but not only is it realy silly. it's filling a slot meant for more worthy craft. the XG1, missile boat or scimitar - as every other impy fan has pointed out.

My theory on it is this.

FFG need bombers for the ordinance fix. The problem is the K-wing is the only one left for the Rebels (that I can come up with) and a few selections for the Empire. Also everybody knows the k-wing is, well lets say aesthetically challenged. If the Rebs got the kwing and the Imps got the awesome XG-1, they would be up in arms about it. So, that is why we got the Inderdictor/Punisher, to balance out the unhappiness of the factions.

For the record, I don't think they have jumped the shark. Are these my first choices, no. But the sky ain't falling either. Not to mention there are people who were really looking forward to these.

That's not a bad theory.

I figure the Wave with the new T-70 x-Wing will take care of "fixes" for the namesake ship.

They need to dump their stupid policy regarding the prequel stuff. There are way more players that would love to buy Naboo and ARC-170 fighters and LAAT gunships and Vulture droids and Tri-Fighters and Geonosian fighters (Clone Wars) then there are players that even know what these ships are let alone wants to buy them.

I think they are more concerned about the players that would quit if they had to face anything prequel related.

Yeah, well, some players are considering quitting over the K-wing. I certainly won't be playing in any more formal tournaments, as if someone put a K-wing across the table from me, I think I'd get up and leave.

There would be no satisfaction in blowing it up?

Yeah, well, some players are considering quitting over the K-wing. I certainly won't be playing in any more formal tournaments, as if someone put a K-wing across the table from me, I think I'd get up and leave.

LOL, k

Ugly... pretty. As someone who has worked on the C-130 Hercules for 20 years,"ugly" is for sure an individual opinion. I get this is a tabletop game based on make-believe, but for the most part, aren't these ships supposed to be war machines? Function-comes-first? From a war machine perspective, "ugly" often means "deadly"! Just an opinion. I am also curious how many new Armada lovers will be complaining in two or so years how their game "jumped the shark". Fly Casual X-Wingers- have a good weekend!

They need to dump their stupid policy regarding the prequel stuff. There are way more players that would love to buy Naboo and ARC-170 fighters and LAAT gunships and Vulture droids and Tri-Fighters and Geonosian fighters (Clone Wars) then there are players that even know what these ships are let alone wants to buy them.

I think they are more concerned about the players that would quit if they had to face anything prequel related.

Yeah, well, some players are considering quitting over the K-wing. I certainly won't be playing in any more formal tournaments, as if someone put a K-wing across the table from me, I think I'd get up and leave.